Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

[Martin Stransky]

Guys,

there's available [1] new Firefox package with emulated CSD rendering [2].

What does it mean for you? Firefox renders CSD decorations on its own 
then and you don't see the default gnome titlebar on top of the main 
window and you get a "Chromish" look. That should also work with Firefox 
light themes.

But you need to enable it explicitly at about:config. Set 
"widget.allow-client-side-decoration" to true and restart the browser.

Please report any issues to bugzilla.redhat.com and mentions it's the 
CSD version. I'm also interested on testing when 
"widget.allow-client-side-decoration" is false - to make sure it does 
not break anything.

Thanks!
ma.

[1]
Fedora 25: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970606
Fedora 26: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970604
Fedora 27: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970605

[2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1399611

[Vít Ondruch]

Two notes for the beginning:

* I am missing the title of the page.

* Why are there the minimize/maximize buttons? They should not be there
in Gnome.


Vít


Dne 15.9.2017 v 09:26 Martin Stransky napsal(a):
>  Guys,
>
>  there's available [1] new Firefox package with emulated CSD rendering
>  [2].
>
>  What does it mean for you? Firefox renders CSD decorations on its own
>  then and you don't see the default gnome titlebar on top of the main
>  window and you get a "Chromish" look. That should also work with
>  Firefox light themes.
>
>  But you need to enable it explicitly at about:config. Set
>  "widget.allow-client-side-decoration" to true and restart the browser.
>
>  Please report any issues to bugzilla.redhat.com and mentions it's the
>  CSD version. I'm also interested on testing when
>  "widget.allow-client-side-decoration" is false - to make sure it does
>  not break anything.
>
>  Thanks!
>  ma.
>
>  [1]
>  Fedora 25: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970606
>  Fedora 26: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970604
>  Fedora 27: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970605
>
>  [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1399611
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[Mathieu Bridon]

On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 18:03 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>  * Why are there the minimize/maximize buttons? They should not be
>  there in Gnome. 
I filed this one this morning:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1491981


-- 
Mathieu

[Eric Griffith]

>  On Sep 15, 2017, at 12:08, Mathieu Bridon
> <bochecha(a)daitauha.fr&gt; wrote:
>  
> > On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 18:03 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> > * Why are there the minimize/maximize buttons? They should not be
> > there in Gnome.
>  
>  I filed this one this morning:
>  
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1491981
>   
As long as it's user-configurable (meaning it will show min/max if enabled in
GTT) then I don't mind not showing them by default. But if they just get ripped out
completely then that's not okay for myself and many others.

[Luya Tshimbalanga]

I was able to view the title of the page in the Top Bar. That function
is accessible via Gnome Tweak.

Minimize and maximize buttons should remain disabled by default on Gnome
Shell.

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[Greg Evenden]

i like it, but without the Menu Bar its still unusable for me. an i hate the Hamburger
Crapola

[Greg Evenden]

i disagree with the Min an Max buttons being disabled by default, they should remain ON .
on Windows an MACOSX there on by default so why not Linux? people stay with Windows cause
its user friendly. only way Linux will get more users an thats to keep Linux user
friendly,

[Alexander Ploumistos]

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Greg Evenden <greg18(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  i like it, but without the Menu Bar its still unusable for me. an i
> hate the Hamburger Crapola 
The Menu Bar didn't go anywhere; if you had it enabled, it should be there.

[Greg Evenden]

>  On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Greg Evenden
> <greg18(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  
>  The Menu Bar didn't go anywhere; if you had it enabled, it should be there. 
i
never said it did go anywhere, im just saying how bad the Hamburger menu is. another
reason why People use Google Chrome. 

but getting back ontopic, i dont mind those 3 Buttons, there small enough that they dont
bother you unlike the way they were before, fat an ugly.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 09/15/2017 05:32 PM, Greg Evenden wrote:
>  i disagree with the Min an Max buttons being disabled by default,
> they should remain ON . on Windows an MACOSX there on by default so why not Linux? people
> stay with Windows cause its user friendly. only way Linux will get more users an thats to
> keep Linux user friendly, 
It should match the desktop environment it's running on.  In Gnome, the 
buttons should not be there (or possibly depending on the desktop 
setting for them).  If the other desktops want them, then that's fine. 
I don't know how difficult that would be to manage.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 09/15/2017 07:28 PM, Greg Evenden wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Greg Evenden
> <greg18(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
> >
> > The Menu Bar didn't go anywhere; if you had it enabled, it should be there.
>  i never said it did go anywhere, im just saying how bad the Hamburger menu is. another
> reason why People use Google Chrome. 
I just looked at Chrome and it's very similar to Firefox.  There is no 
menubar and the ALT key doesn't even bring up a menu at all.  Instead of 
the "hamburger" menu, there is just a vertical row of 3 dots which 
brings up a much more limited menu.  So why is Chrome so much better?

[Greg Evenden]

>  On 09/15/2017 07:28 PM, Greg Evenden wrote:
>  
>  I just looked at Chrome and it's very similar to Firefox.  There is no 
>  menubar and the ALT key doesn't even bring up a menu at all.  Instead of 
>  the "hamburger" menu, there is just a vertical row of 3 dots which 
>  brings up a much more limited menu.  So why is Chrome so much better? 
again, i use
Bookmarks Bar in Chrome. i do not use the ugly Hamburger menu

[Samuel Rakitničan]

"Edge" of the window is way off the visible one with an offset somewhere to what
window is shown in the picture bellow. Resize cursor is visible way off the visible window
border.
https://i.imgur.com/v36YoDU.png

Not sure if that is by design, minimize, maximize or close buttons don't show up
unless they've been hovered over. Maybe background image has to do something with
that.

It would be nice if double clicking on empty space in tab bar would maximize/minimize the
entire window.

[Mattia Verga]

On KDE the result is terrible.

I get a window inside another window: http://tinyurl.com/yd6ppat3

[Christian Dersch]

I can confirm this behaviour @KDE Plasma and also i3 window manager.


On 09/16/2017 06:03 PM, Mattia Verga wrote:
>  On KDE the result is terrible.
>
>  I get a window inside another window: http://tinyurl.com/yd6ppat3
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[Martin Stransky]

Do you mind to file at BZ please?
Thanks,
ma.

On 09/16/2017 06:15 PM, Christian Dersch wrote:
>  I can confirm this behaviour @KDE Plasma and also i3 window manager.
>  
>  
>  On 09/16/2017 06:03 PM, Mattia Verga wrote:
> > On KDE the result is terrible.
> >
> > I get a window inside another window: http://tinyurl.com/yd6ppat3
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[Vít Ondruch]

Dne 15.9.2017 v 18:03 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):
>  Two notes for the beginning:
>
>  * I am missing the title of the page. 
Aha, now I realized that the page title is supposed to be visible on the
tab probably, but that does not work with more then just a few opened
tabs ....

Vít


>  * Why are there the minimize/maximize buttons? They should not be there
>  in Gnome.
>
>
>  Vít
>
>
>  Dne 15.9.2017 v 09:26 Martin Stransky napsal(a):
> > Guys,
> >
> > there's available [1] new Firefox package with emulated CSD rendering
> > [2].
> >
> > What does it mean for you? Firefox renders CSD decorations on its own
> > then and you don't see the default gnome titlebar on top of the main
> > window and you get a "Chromish" look. That should also work with
> > Firefox light themes.
> >
> > But you need to enable it explicitly at about:config. Set
> > "widget.allow-client-side-decoration" to true and restart the browser.
> >
> > Please report any issues to bugzilla.redhat.com and mentions it's the
> > CSD version. I'm also interested on testing when
> > "widget.allow-client-side-decoration" is false - to make sure it does
> > not break anything.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > ma.
> >
> > [1]
> > Fedora 25: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970606
> > Fedora 26: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970604
> > Fedora 27: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970605
> >
> > [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1399611
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[Jiří Eischmann]

Greg Evenden píše v So 16. 09. 2017 v 10:15 +0000:
>  > On 09/15/2017 07:28 PM, Greg Evenden wrote:
>  > 
>  > I just looked at Chrome and it's very similar to Firefox.  There is
>  > no 
>  > menubar and the ALT key doesn't even bring up a menu at
>  > all.  Instead of 
>  > the "hamburger" menu, there is just a vertical row of 3 dots which 
>  > brings up a much more limited menu.  So why is Chrome so much
>  > better?
>  
>  again, i use Bookmarks Bar in Chrome. i do not use the ugly Hamburger
>  menu 
Still, "another reason why People use Google Chrome." doesn't make
sense to me. Since both browsers have a very similar menu by default
and both allow to change it, it clearly is not another reason why
people use Chrome.

Jiri

[Alexander Ploumistos]

Was client-side decoration supposed to work in other DEs, e.g. MATE?
Because the native window decoration sticks around.

[Christian Stadelmann]

Did you restart Firefox after setting widget.allow-client-side-decoration ?

[Thomas Daede]

This now landed in Firefox Nightly, and it's working great! The only bug
I hit was with the dark theme:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1416673

On 09/15/2017 12:26 AM, Martin Stransky wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> there's available [1] new Firefox package with emulated CSD rendering [2].
> 
> What does it mean for you? Firefox renders CSD decorations on its own
> then and you don't see the default gnome titlebar on top of the main
> window and you get a "Chromish" look. That should also work with Firefox
> light themes.
> 
> But you need to enable it explicitly at about:config. Set
> "widget.allow-client-side-decoration" to true and restart the browser.
> 
> Please report any issues to bugzilla.redhat.com and mentions it's the
> CSD version. I'm also interested on testing when
> "widget.allow-client-side-decoration" is false - to make sure it does
> not break anything.
> 
> Thanks!
> ma.
> 
> [1]
> Fedora 25: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970606
> Fedora 26: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970604
> Fedora 27: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=970605
> 
> [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1399611
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[Alexander Ploumistos]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Christian Stadelmann
<genodeftest(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Did you restart Firefox after setting
> widget.allow-client-side-decoration ? 
Yes and I did get the close/minimize/maximize buttons, but right under
the native title bar.