eclipse

[Erwin Rol]

Hey all,

I tried to use eclipse for a C++ project but after liek 10 crashes in
the last 30 minutes i kind of gave up.

My question; is there anybody out there that actually uses eclipse ? And
with uses i mean like working with it 8 hours a day without a crash ever
5 minutes.

BTW: this is on x86_64 and FC5.

- Erwin

[Andrew Haley]

Erwin Rol writes:
>  Hey all,
>  
>  I tried to use eclipse for a C++ project but after liek 10 crashes in
>  the last 30 minutes i kind of gave up.
>  
>  My question; is there anybody out there that actually uses eclipse ? And
>  with uses i mean like working with it 8 hours a day without a crash ever
>  5 minutes.
>  
>  BTW: this is on x86_64 and FC5. 
Well, FC5 isn't actually released yet, and I'm aware of at least one
problem with Eclipse.

Let us know what your problems are.

Andrew.

[Andrew Overholt]

* Erwin Rol <mailinglists(a)erwinrol.com&gt; [2006-02-23 11:43]:
>  
>  My question; is there anybody out there that actually uses eclipse ? And
>  with uses i mean like working with it 8 hours a day without a crash ever
>  5 minutes. 
Well, "using Eclipse" can mean many, many different things.  I use it all
the time but not for C++.  The CDT needs some love.  I'm trying to give it
some but it would really help if I had some specific bug reports.  If you
could file one or two, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Andrew

[Michael Favia]

Erwin Rol wrote:
>  Hey all,
>  
>  I tried to use eclipse for a C++ project but after liek 10 crashes in
>  the last 30 minutes i kind of gave up.
>  
>  My question; is there anybody out there that actually uses eclipse ? And
>  with uses i mean like working with it 8 hours a day without a crash ever
>  5 minutes. 
I tried using andrews eclipse packages at first because dont like the 
idea of a noncentrally managed update stack. But the original packaging 
problems with installing only the eclipse platform (eg non SDK), user 
based extension directories, and the trouble with the speed and 
functionality of those installed extensions left a little to be desired.

As a result i have been running eclipse 
platform+CDT+phpeclipse+subclipse ontop of a Sun Java stack (for speed 
alone) for the last few months. I havent toyed around with the updates 
andrews made in the past few months. i seem to remember seeing 
changelogs in the rawhide update messages that resolved most of my 
issues. Will install this afternoon and report back with troubles if 
any. -mf
-- 
Michael Favia          michael.favia(a)insitesinc.com
Insites Incorporated  http://michael.insitesinc.com

[Michael Favia]

Michael Favia wrote:
>  Will install this afternoon and report back with troubles if 
>  any. -mf 
Had a chance to install this afternoon. Is this really still necessary 
(please see dependency resolution report from yum on bottom of msg)? 
Some of those make sense to me but tomcat? I seem to remember something 
about this issue before but don't remember what in particular it was.

Other than that it seems to run clean and work well. Was able to use my 
existing workspace and add my extension location without issue at all. 
I'm going to pound on it in the cdt and phpeclipse arena a little more 
but subclipse and the basics all seem to be functional if not a tad bit 
sluggish (i have no metrics to back that up).

Is there a policy for those extensions that make it into the repo and 
those that don't? Or a general fedora policy on how to handle extensible 
  applications (gstreamer, firefox, thunderbird, eclipse)? Because their 
support seems to differ across applications. Maintaining every extension 
seems like a waste of developer resources and asking each user on a 
system to install the same extension seems redundant and tedious. 
Regardless thanks for all the good work andrew et al. and ill report any 
new issues to bugzilla. -mf



DEPS:
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  Package                 Arch       Version          Repository        Size
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Installing:
  eclipse-platform        i386       1:3.1.2-1jpp_7fc  development 
   53 M
Installing for dependencies:
  ant-apache-bsf          i386       1.6.5-1jpp_6fc   development 
  44 k
  ant-javamail            i386       1.6.5-1jpp_6fc   development 
  34 k
  eclipse-rcp             i386       1:3.1.2-1jpp_7fc  development 
   46 k
  geronimo-specs          i386       1.0-0.M2.2jpp_7fc  development 
   227 k
  geronimo-specs-compat   i386       1.0-0.M2.2jpp_7fc  development 
   4.9 k
  jakarta-commons-fileupload  noarch     1:1.0-3jpp_4fc   development 
      24 k
  java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-javadoc  i386       1.4.2.0-40jpp_80rh 
development        21 M
  lucene                  i386       1.4.3-1jpp_11fc  development 
660 k
  lucene-demo             i386       1.4.3-1jpp_11fc  development 
104 k
  tomcat5                 i386       5.0.30-8jpp_11fc  development 
  3.6 M
  tomcat5-jasper          i386       5.0.30-8jpp_11fc  development 
  878 k

Transaction Summary
=============================================================================
Install     12 Package(s)
Update       0 Package(s)
Remove       0 Package(s)
Total download size: 80 M


-- 
Michael Favia          michael.favia(a)insitesinc.com
Insites Incorporated  http://michael.insitesinc.com

[Igor Foox]

On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 15:01 -0600, Michael Favia wrote:
>  Michael Favia wrote:
>  > Will install this afternoon and report back with troubles if 
>  > any. -mf
>  Had a chance to install this afternoon. Is this really still necessary 
>  (please see dependency resolution report from yum on bottom of msg)? 
>  Some of those make sense to me but tomcat? I seem to remember something 
>  about this issue before but don't remember what in particular it was. 
Hi Michael,

Eclipse uses tomcat for the help system, this is true of the upstream
Eclipse as well as the one shipped on Fedora. Eclipse starts a tomcat
server when you first open up the help, which is why there's a slight
delay the first time you do it, which serves the html pages of the help
system. Unfortunately there's not much we can do to get around this. :) 

> =============================================================================
>    Package                 Arch       Version          Repository        Size
>  =============================================================================
>  Installing:
>    eclipse-platform        i386       1:3.1.2-1jpp_7fc  development 
>     53 M
>  Installing for dependencies:
>    ant-apache-bsf          i386       1.6.5-1jpp_6fc   development 
>    44 k
>    ant-javamail            i386       1.6.5-1jpp_6fc   development 
>    34 k
>    eclipse-rcp             i386       1:3.1.2-1jpp_7fc  development 
>     46 k
>    geronimo-specs          i386       1.0-0.M2.2jpp_7fc  development 
>     227 k
>    geronimo-specs-compat   i386       1.0-0.M2.2jpp_7fc  development 
>     4.9 k
>    jakarta-commons-fileupload  noarch     1:1.0-3jpp_4fc   development 
>        24 k
>    java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-javadoc  i386       1.4.2.0-40jpp_80rh 
>  development        21 M
>    lucene                  i386       1.4.3-1jpp_11fc  development 
>  660 k
>    lucene-demo             i386       1.4.3-1jpp_11fc  development 
>  104 k
>    tomcat5                 i386       5.0.30-8jpp_11fc  development 
>    3.6 M
>    tomcat5-jasper          i386       5.0.30-8jpp_11fc  development 
>    878 k
>  
>  Transaction Summary
>  =============================================================================
>  Install     12 Package(s)
>  Update       0 Package(s)
>  Remove       0 Package(s)
>  Total download size: 80 M