----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pavel Valena" <pvalena(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Neal Gompa" <ngompa13(a)gmail.com>, "Radka Janekova"
<rjanekov(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: developer-portal(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 3:44:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Developer-portal] FDP release and statistics 10/2017: C# IDEs and Mono
updates; Python, Docker and
> Haskell fixes
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Neal Gompa" <ngompa13(a)gmail.com>
> > To: "Pavel Valena" <pvalena(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: developer-portal(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:24:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Developer-portal] FDP release and statistics 10/2017: C# IDEs
> > and Mono updates; Python, Docker and
> > Haskell fixes
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Pavel Valena <pvalena(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > new Fedora Developer Portal release is prepared on staging and will be
> > > deployed tomorrow by EOD.
> > >
> > > New and updated content
> > > - C#: IDEs page[1] by Radka Janek <radka.janek(a)redhat.com>
> > > and Mickael Istria <mistria(a)redhat.com>
> <snip/>
> > >
> >
> > Why are we referencing JetBrains' proprietary Rider in our developer
> > documentation? It was already a bit of a stretch with Visual Studio
>
> Just a note: It's not a documentation[1] and it's not meant to be in any
way.
> Aimed on Developers, solely, and addressing their needs[2].
>
> > Code, given that literally no one is working on bringing that into
> > Fedora (but at least it is open source), but this is straight-up
> > advocating for nonfree software, which entirely _not the point_ of
> > Fedora Developer site.
>
> Neal, the not-being-in-Fedora is actually acceptable on Developer Portal. The
> portal aims to give guidance[1] for developers *on* Fedora, not necessarily
> contributing *to* Fedora[3] (or along its guidelines).
> Regarding that, I think About page[2] ought be fixed to reflect that more
> clearly (any volunteers? :)).
>
> From IDEs page Summary:
> """What would we recommend? JetBrains Rider is the best C# IDE,
however it is
> not open source."""
>
> I do, however, agree that *recommended* apps or tooling should be the Open
> Source ones. Even though It's not forbidden AFAIK.
>
> Thank you for your feedback!
>
> [1]
http://developer-portal.github.io/contributing/write-introduction.html
> [2]
https://developer.stg.fedoraproject.org/about.html
> [3]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Developer#Target_Audience
>
> --
>
> Radko, can you please change the order of paragraphs to reflect Fedoras'
> stand-point, and recommend an Open-Source alternative? I'd also like the
> JetBrains paragraph to stress that the software is proprietary and
> closed-source.
> Websites' deploment is postponed until this is resolved. Alternatively, I can
> delete the paragraph from resulting web page.
I've deloyed the website without the JetBrains block.
Pavel