From: "Pavel Valena" <pvalena(a)redhat.com>
To: "Neal Gompa" <ngompa13(a)gmail.com>, "Radka Janekova"
<rjanekov(a)redhat.com>
Cc: developer-portal(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 3:44:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Developer-portal] FDP release and statistics 10/2017: C# IDEs and Mono
updates; Python, Docker and
Haskell fixes
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Gompa" <ngompa13(a)gmail.com>
> To: "Pavel Valena" <pvalena(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: developer-portal(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:24:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Developer-portal] FDP release and statistics 10/2017: C# IDEs
> and Mono updates; Python, Docker and
> Haskell fixes
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Pavel Valena <pvalena(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > new Fedora Developer Portal release is prepared on staging and will be
> > deployed tomorrow by EOD.
> >
> > New and updated content
> > - C#: IDEs page[1] by Radka Janek <radka.janek(a)redhat.com>
> > and Mickael Istria <mistria(a)redhat.com>
<snip/>
> >
>
> Why are we referencing JetBrains' proprietary Rider in our developer
> documentation? It was already a bit of a stretch with Visual Studio
Just a note: It's not a documentation[1] and it's not meant to be in any way.
Aimed on Developers, solely, and addressing their needs[2].
> Code, given that literally no one is working on bringing that into
> Fedora (but at least it is open source), but this is straight-up
> advocating for nonfree software, which entirely _not the point_ of
> Fedora Developer site.
Neal, the not-being-in-Fedora is actually acceptable on Developer Portal. The
portal aims to give guidance[1] for developers *on* Fedora, not necessarily
contributing *to* Fedora[3] (or along its guidelines).
Regarding that, I think About page[2] ought be fixed to reflect that more
clearly (any volunteers? :)).
From IDEs page Summary:
"""What would we recommend? JetBrains Rider is the best C# IDE, however it
is
not open source."""
I do, however, agree that *recommended* apps or tooling should be the Open
Source ones. Even though It's not forbidden AFAIK.
Thank you for your feedback!
[1]
http://developer-portal.github.io/contributing/write-introduction.html
[2]
https://developer.stg.fedoraproject.org/about.html
[3]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Developer#Target_Audience
--
Radko, can you please change the order of paragraphs to reflect Fedoras'
stand-point, and recommend an Open-Source alternative? I'd also like the
JetBrains paragraph to stress that the software is proprietary and
closed-source.
Websites' deploment is postponed until this is resolved. Alternatively, I can
delete the paragraph from resulting web page.
I've deloyed the website without the JetBrains block.
Pavel
>
> Regards,
> Pavel Valena
> Associate Software Engineer, Red Hat
> Brno, Czech Republic
>