[Developer-portal] Re: FDP release and statistics 10/2017: C# IDEs and Mono updates; Python, Docker and Haskell fixes

[Pavel Valena]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Gompa" 
> To: "Pavel Valena" 
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:24:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Developer-portal] FDP release and statistics 10/2017: C# IDEs and Mono updates; Python, Docker and
> Haskell fixes
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Pavel Valena  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > new Fedora Developer Portal release is prepared on staging and will be
> > deployed tomorrow by EOD.
> >
> > New and updated content
> > C#: IDEs page[1] by Radka Janek 
> >                  and Mickael Istria

<snip/>
> >
>
> Why are we referencing JetBrains' proprietary Rider in our developer
> documentation? It was already a bit of a stretch with Visual Studio

Just a note: It's not a documentation[1] and it's not meant to be in any way. Aimed on Developers, solely, and addressing their needs[2].
> Code, given that literally no one is working on bringing that into
> Fedora (but at least it is open source), but this is straight-up
> advocating for nonfree software, which entirely _not the point_ of
> Fedora Developer site.

Neal, the not-being-in-Fedora is actually acceptable on Developer Portal. The portal aims to give guidance[1] for developers *on* Fedora, not necessarily contributing *to* Fedora[3] (or along its guidelines).
Regarding that, I think About page[2] ought be fixed to reflect that more clearly (any volunteers? :)).

From IDEs page Summary:
"""What would we recommend? JetBrains Rider is the best C# IDE, however it is not open source."""

I do, however, agree that *recommended* apps or tooling should be the Open Source ones. Even though It's not forbidden AFAIK.

Thank you for your feedback!

[1] http://developer-portal.github.io/contributing/write-introduction.html
[2] https://developer.stg.fedoraproject.org/about.html
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Developer#Target_Audience

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Radko, can you please change the order of paragraphs to reflect Fedoras' stand-point, and recommend an Open-Source alternative? I'd also like the JetBrains paragraph to stress that the software is proprietary and closed-source.
Websites' deploment is postponed until this is resolved. Alternatively, I can delete the paragraph from resulting web page.

Regards,
Pavel Valena
Associate Software Engineer, Red Hat
Brno, Czech Republic