7:48 p.m.
Hey, anyone in docs going to FUDCON in Malaysia?
Anyone docs hackfest organised for it?
- Josh
7:03 p.m.
I have an idea for an interesting technological and social experiment around docs for the
Malaysia FUDCON.
We have a topic-based authoring tool that we're using to develop documentation inside
Red Hat at the moment, called Topika.
Last year I sponsored an intern project to integrate it with FAS, so it has a FAS
authentication module.
I can spin up an instance in OpenShift or EC2 with FAS auth, we can choose a book that
we'd like to see for Fedora, and one that matches the prevalent area of interest /
expertise of the attendees of the FUDCON.
Then I can design the topic map for the book.
Then at the FUDCON we work with the organisers to make it a feature of the FUDCON that we
will crowdsource the book in the three days of the FUDCON. Every attendee can log into the
Topika instance with their FAS account, and write one (1) topic, using the supplied
template.
We'll rebuild the book every five minutes on a stage so that attendees can view the
progress.
If it works, then it could a viable way to get a book per FUDCON.
What do you think?
- Josh
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Hi:
I won't be at the FUDCon Malaysia, but this sounds like a VERY GOOD
IDEA!!!
What about mass editing at future FUDCons? We have lots of Guides at
various states of being out-dated, and we could really improve the
state of the documentation simply by publishing all of what we already
have.
Christopher.
On 04/19/2012 08:03 PM, Joshua Wulf wrote:
I have an idea for an interesting technological and social
experiment around docs for the Malaysia FUDCON.
We have a topic-based authoring tool that we're using to develop
documentation inside Red Hat at the moment, called Topika.
Last year I sponsored an intern project to integrate it with FAS,
so it has a FAS authentication module.
I can spin up an instance in OpenShift or EC2 with FAS auth, we can
choose a book that we'd like to see for Fedora, and one that
matches the prevalent area of interest / expertise of the attendees
of the FUDCON.
Then I can design the topic map for the book.
Then at the FUDCON we work with the organisers to make it a feature
of the FUDCON that we will crowdsource the book in the three days
of the FUDCON. Every attendee can log into the Topika instance with
their FAS account, and write one (1) topic, using the supplied
template.
We'll rebuild the book every five minutes on a stage so that
attendees can view the progress.
If it works, then it could a viable way to get a book per FUDCON.
What do you think?
- Josh
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua J Wulf"
<jwulf(a)redhat.com> To: docs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday,
April 19, 2012 10:48:27 AM Subject: FUDCON Malaysia Docs Hackfest
Hey, anyone in docs going to FUDCON in Malaysia?
Anyone docs hackfest organised for it?
- Josh
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On 04/20/2012 02:17 PM, Christopher R. Antila wrote:
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Hi:
I won't be at the FUDCon Malaysia, but this sounds like a VERY GOOD
IDEA!!!
What about mass editing at future FUDCons? We have lots of Guides at
various states of being out-dated, and we could really improve the
state of the documentation simply by publishing all of what we already
have.
I'll trial it at this FUDCON and if it's successful we can do it at
future ones. A "book per FUDCON" would rock. The new tool* is all about
breaking down large documentation projects into microtasks that can be
completed in parallel, so it's a good use case.
The resulting doc will still require an editor, obviously; but it's a
good way to harness the critical mass of a FUDCON.
What current or potential docs could do with the love this time round?
- Josh
* We're still looking for a name - suggestions welcome!
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789243
Christopher.
On 04/19/2012 08:03 PM, Joshua Wulf wrote:
> I have an idea for an interesting technological and social
> experiment around docs for the Malaysia FUDCON.
>
> We have a topic-based authoring tool that we're using to develop
> documentation inside Red Hat at the moment, called Topika.
>
> Last year I sponsored an intern project to integrate it with FAS,
> so it has a FAS authentication module.
>
> I can spin up an instance in OpenShift or EC2 with FAS auth, we can
> choose a book that we'd like to see for Fedora, and one that
> matches the prevalent area of interest / expertise of the attendees
> of the FUDCON.
>
> Then I can design the topic map for the book.
>
> Then at the FUDCON we work with the organisers to make it a feature
> of the FUDCON that we will crowdsource the book in the three days
> of the FUDCON. Every attendee can log into the Topika instance with
> their FAS account, and write one (1) topic, using the supplied
> template.
>
> We'll rebuild the book every five minutes on a stage so that
> attendees can view the progress.
>
> If it works, then it could a viable way to get a book per FUDCON.
>
> What do you think?
>
> - Josh
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua J Wulf"
> <jwulf(a)redhat.com> To: docs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday,
> April 19, 2012 10:48:27 AM Subject: FUDCON Malaysia Docs Hackfest
>
> Hey, anyone in docs going to FUDCON in Malaysia?
>
> Anyone docs hackfest organised for it?
>
> - Josh
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12:13 a.m.
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Personally, I would appreciate a renewed "Security-Enhanced Linux:
User Guide," which hasn't been published since Fedora 13.
Christopher.
On 04/20/2012 12:31 AM, Joshua J Wulf wrote:
On 04/20/2012 02:17 PM, Christopher R. Antila wrote: Hi:
I won't be at the FUDCon Malaysia, but this sounds like a VERY
GOOD IDEA!!!
What about mass editing at future FUDCons? We have lots of Guides
at various states of being out-dated, and we could really improve
the state of the documentation simply by publishing all of what we
already have.
> I'll trial it at this FUDCON and if it's successful we can do it
> at future ones. A "book per FUDCON" would rock. The new tool* is
> all about breaking down large documentation projects into
> microtasks that can be completed in parallel, so it's a good use
> case.
> The resulting doc will still require an editor, obviously; but
> it's a good way to harness the critical mass of a FUDCON.
> What current or potential docs could do with the love this time
> round?
> - Josh
> * We're still looking for a name - suggestions welcome!
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789243
Christopher.
On 04/19/2012 08:03 PM, Joshua Wulf wrote:
>>> I have an idea for an interesting technological and social
>>> experiment around docs for the Malaysia FUDCON.
>>>
>>> We have a topic-based authoring tool that we're using to
>>> develop documentation inside Red Hat at the moment, called
>>> Topika.
>>>
>>> Last year I sponsored an intern project to integrate it with
>>> FAS, so it has a FAS authentication module.
>>>
>>> I can spin up an instance in OpenShift or EC2 with FAS auth,
>>> we can choose a book that we'd like to see for Fedora, and
>>> one that matches the prevalent area of interest / expertise
>>> of the attendees of the FUDCON.
>>>
>>> Then I can design the topic map for the book.
>>>
>>> Then at the FUDCON we work with the organisers to make it a
>>> feature of the FUDCON that we will crowdsource the book in
>>> the three days of the FUDCON. Every attendee can log into the
>>> Topika instance with their FAS account, and write one (1)
>>> topic, using the supplied template.
>>>
>>> We'll rebuild the book every five minutes on a stage so that
>>> attendees can view the progress.
>>>
>>> If it works, then it could a viable way to get a book per
>>> FUDCON.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> - Josh
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua J Wulf"
>>> <jwulf(a)redhat.com> To: docs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Sent:
>>> Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:48:27 AM Subject: FUDCON Malaysia
>>> Docs Hackfest
>>>
>>> Hey, anyone in docs going to FUDCON in Malaysia?
>>>
>>> Anyone docs hackfest organised for it?
>>>
>>> - Josh
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1:55 a.m.
Christopher,
I'll make sure the SELinux Guide is released for Fedora 17! And I'll be
eagerly awaiting any kind of feedback once it's out ;)
Martin
On 04/20/2012 07:13 AM, Christopher R. Antila wrote:
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Personally, I would appreciate a renewed "Security-Enhanced Linux:
User Guide," which hasn't been published since Fedora 13.
Christopher.
On 04/20/2012 12:31 AM, Joshua J Wulf wrote:
> On 04/20/2012 02:17 PM, Christopher R. Antila wrote: Hi:
>
> I won't be at the FUDCon Malaysia, but this sounds like a VERY
> GOOD IDEA!!!
>
> What about mass editing at future FUDCons? We have lots of Guides
> at various states of being out-dated, and we could really improve
> the state of the documentation simply by publishing all of what we
> already have.
>> I'll trial it at this FUDCON and if it's successful we can do it
>> at future ones. A "book per FUDCON" would rock. The new tool* is
>> all about breaking down large documentation projects into
>> microtasks that can be completed in parallel, so it's a good use
>> case.
>
>> The resulting doc will still require an editor, obviously; but
>> it's a good way to harness the critical mass of a FUDCON.
>
>
>> What current or potential docs could do with the love this time
>> round?
>
>> - Josh
>
>> * We're still looking for a name - suggestions welcome!
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789243
>
>
>
> Christopher.
>
> On 04/19/2012 08:03 PM, Joshua Wulf wrote:
>>>> I have an idea for an interesting technological and social
>>>> experiment around docs for the Malaysia FUDCON.
>>>>
>>>> We have a topic-based authoring tool that we're using to
>>>> develop documentation inside Red Hat at the moment, called
>>>> Topika.
>>>>
>>>> Last year I sponsored an intern project to integrate it with
>>>> FAS, so it has a FAS authentication module.
>>>>
>>>> I can spin up an instance in OpenShift or EC2 with FAS auth,
>>>> we can choose a book that we'd like to see for Fedora, and
>>>> one that matches the prevalent area of interest / expertise
>>>> of the attendees of the FUDCON.
>>>>
>>>> Then I can design the topic map for the book.
>>>>
>>>> Then at the FUDCON we work with the organisers to make it a
>>>> feature of the FUDCON that we will crowdsource the book in
>>>> the three days of the FUDCON. Every attendee can log into the
>>>> Topika instance with their FAS account, and write one (1)
>>>> topic, using the supplied template.
>>>>
>>>> We'll rebuild the book every five minutes on a stage so that
>>>> attendees can view the progress.
>>>>
>>>> If it works, then it could a viable way to get a book per
>>>> FUDCON.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> - Josh
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua J Wulf"
>>>> <jwulf(a)redhat.com> To: docs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Sent:
>>>> Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:48:27 AM Subject: FUDCON Malaysia
>>>> Docs Hackfest
>>>>
>>>> Hey, anyone in docs going to FUDCON in Malaysia?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone docs hackfest organised for it?
>>>>
>>>> - Josh
>
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Technical Writer | Red Hat, Inc.
Brno, Czech Republic
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2:39 a.m.
Thanks for the release of selinux guide.I'm also looking forward to seeing
its coming back.
On Friday, April 20, 2012, Martin Prpic <mprpic(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Christopher,
I'll make sure the SELinux Guide is released for Fedora 17! And I'll be
eagerly awaiting any kind of feedback once it's out ;)
Martin
On 04/20/2012 07:13 AM, Christopher R. Antila wrote:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Personally, I would appreciate a renewed "Security-Enhanced Linux:
> User Guide," which hasn't been published since Fedora 13.
>
>
> Christopher.
>
> On 04/20/2012 12:31 AM, Joshua J Wulf wrote:
>>
>> On 04/20/2012 02:17 PM, Christopher R. Antila wrote: Hi:
>>
>> I won't be at the FUDCon Malaysia, but this sounds like a VERY
>> GOOD IDEA!!!
>>
>> What about mass editing at future FUDCons? We have lots of Guides
>> at various states of being out-dated, and we could really improve
>> the state of the documentation simply by publishing all of what we
>> already have.
>>>
>>> I'll trial it at this FUDCON and if it's successful we can do it
>>> at future ones. A "book per FUDCON" would rock. The new tool* is
>>> all about breaking down large documentation projects into
>>> microtasks that can be completed in parallel, so it's a good use
>>> case.
>>
>>> The resulting doc will still require an editor, obviously; but
>>> it's a good way to harness the critical mass of a FUDCON.
>>
>>
>>> What current or potential docs could do with the love this time
>>> round?
>>
>>> - Josh
>>
>>> * We're still looking for a name - suggestions welcome!
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789243
>>
>>
>>
>> Christopher.
>>
>> On 04/19/2012 08:03 PM, Joshua Wulf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an idea for an interesting technological and social
>>>>> experiment around docs for the Malaysia FUDCON.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a topic-based authoring tool that we're using to
>>>>> develop documentation inside Red Hat at the moment, called
>>>>> Topika.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last year I sponsored an intern project to integrate it with
>>>>> FAS, so it has a FAS authentication module.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can spin up an instance in OpenShift or EC2 with FAS auth,
>>>>> we can choose a book that we'd like to see for Fedora, and
>>>>> one that matches the prevalent area of interest / expertise
>>>>> of the attendees of the FUDCON.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I can design the topic map for the book.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then at the FUDCON we work with the organisers to make it a
>>>>> feature of the FUDCON that we will crowdsource the book in
>>>>> the three days of the FUDCON. Every attendee can log into the
>>>>> Topika instance with their FAS account, and write one (1)
>>>>> topic, using the supplied template.
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll rebuild the book every five minutes on a stage so that
>>>>> attendees can view the progress.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it works, then it could a viable way to get a book per
>>>>> FUDCON.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Josh
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua J Wulf"
>>>>> <jwulf(a)redhat.com> To: docs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Sent:
>>>>> Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:48:27 AM Subject: FUDCON Malaysia
>>>>> Docs Hackfest
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, anyone in docs going to FUDCON in Malaysia?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone docs hackfest organised for it?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Josh
>>
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10:50 a.m.
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Joshua Wulf <jwulf(a)redhat.com> wrote:
I have an idea for an interesting technological and social experiment
around docs for the Malaysia FUDCON.
We have a topic-based authoring tool that we're using to develop documentation inside
Red Hat at the moment, called Topika.
I'd love to learn more about Topika as well... Is this an open source
project? Is it something that mere mortals can start playing with?
Last year I sponsored an intern project to integrate it with FAS, so
it has a FAS authentication module.
I can spin up an instance in OpenShift or EC2 with FAS auth, we can choose a book that
we'd like to see for Fedora, and one that matches the prevalent area of interest /
expertise of the attendees of the FUDCON.
For those of us not planning on coming to FUDCon Malaysia (or for
those who are attending but want to get up to speed on the tool ahead
of tim), can we spin up an instance now to start learning the ropes?
Then at the FUDCON we work with the organisers to make it a feature
of the FUDCON that we will crowdsource the book in the three days of the FUDCON. Every
attendee can log into the Topika instance with their FAS account, and write one (1) topic,
using the supplied template.
The assumption that every attendee will feel comfortable writing a
topic on a given book might be a bit of a stretch, but if you pull in
outside people that aren't able to attend FUDCon, it might work
better.
If it works, then it could a viable way to get a book per FUDCON.
I love the idea of making sustainable documentation a goal for events
like FUDCon. I'll do what I can to support you (remotely).
--
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1:41 a.m.
On 04/21/2012 01:50 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Joshua Wulf<jwulf(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> I have an idea for an interesting technological and social experiment around docs for
the Malaysia FUDCON.
>
> We have a topic-based authoring tool that we're using to develop documentation
inside Red Hat at the moment, called Topika.
I'd love to learn more about Topika as well... Is this an open source
project? Is it something that mere mortals can start playing with?
It is an open
source project, yes. It's Topic Index on Sourceforge.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/topicindex/
Is it something that mortals can play with? As users of a hosted
instance, definitely so. Spinning up your own instance? Probably not, yet.
At this point it requires some massaging to get it going. It's going to
be useful as a hosted solution in the short term (think about hosted
subversion vs subversion on your own machine), but with some RFEs
implemented it will be able to act more like git, and support multiple
distributed repos, which share the same metadata schemas, and can
interchange topics.
> Last year I sponsored an intern project to integrate it with FAS, so it has a FAS
authentication module.
>
> I can spin up an instance in OpenShift or EC2 with FAS auth, we can choose a book
that we'd like to see for Fedora, and one that matches the prevalent area of interest
/ expertise of the attendees of the FUDCON.
For those of us not planning on coming to FUDCon Malaysia (or for
those who are attending but want to get up to speed on the tool ahead
of tim), can we spin up an instance now to start learning the ropes?
I'll get
the instance up before FUDCON.
> Then at the FUDCON we work with the organisers to make it a feature of the FUDCON
that we will crowdsource the book in the three days of the FUDCON. Every attendee can log
into the Topika instance with their FAS account, and write one (1) topic, using the
supplied template.
The assumption that every attendee will feel comfortable writing a
topic on a given book might be a bit of a stretch, but if you pull in
outside people that aren't able to attend FUDCon, it might work
better.
Yes, I think the right approach will be the goal of writing the book
during FUDCON, but given that it's a webservice, there is nothing
limiting it to people who are physically present at the FUDCON.
> If it works, then it could a viable way to get a book per
FUDCON.
I love the idea of making sustainable documentation a goal for events
like FUDCon. I'll do what I can to support you (remotely).
Thanks!
--
Jared Smith
10:51 a.m.
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Joshua Wulf <jwulf(a)redhat.com> wrote:
I have an idea for an interesting technological and social experiment
around docs for the Malaysia FUDCON.
We have a topic-based authoring tool that we're using to develop documentation inside
Red Hat at the moment, called Topika.
I'd love to learn more about Topika as well... Is this an open source
project? Is it something that mere mortals like me can start playing
with?
Last year I sponsored an intern project to integrate it with FAS, so
it has a FAS authentication module.
I can spin up an instance in OpenShift or EC2 with FAS auth, we can choose a book that
we'd like to see for Fedora, and one that matches the prevalent area of interest /
expertise of the attendees of the FUDCON.
For those of us not planning on coming to FUDCon Malaysia (or for
those who are attending but want to get up to speed on the tool ahead
of tim), can we spin up an instance now to start learning the ropes?
Then at the FUDCON we work with the organisers to make it a feature
of the FUDCON that we will crowdsource the book in the three days of the FUDCON. Every
attendee can log into the Topika instance with their FAS account, and write one (1) topic,
using the supplied template.
The assumption that every attendee will feel comfortable writing a
topic on a given book might be a bit of a stretch, but if you pull in
outside people that aren't able to attend FUDCon, it might work
better.
If it works, then it could a viable way to get a book per FUDCON.
I love the idea of making sustainable documentation a goal for events
like FUDCon. I'll do what I can to support you (remotely).
--
Jared Smith
1:44 a.m.
On 04/21/2012 01:51 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Joshua Wulf<jwulf(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> I have an idea for an interesting technological and social experiment around docs for
the Malaysia FUDCON.
>
> We have a topic-based authoring tool that we're using to develop documentation
inside Red Hat at the moment, called Topika.
I'd love to learn more about Topika as well...
Oh, and btw - we're looking for a new name. Suggestions welcome!
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789243
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