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Question about RPM packaging.
by Tommy Reynolds 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

Fellow Doc'ers, As I continue to think about RPM packaging for the FDP world, another question arose. I noticed in several other *.desktop files that the package name is specified like this: Name[en] = Example Tutorial Name[de] = Beispiel Tutorial* and so on. My idea here is to use another "Makefile" macro for this, so that individual translators can add the title when they add the translated files. Something like: DOCNAME-en=Example Tutorial DOCNAME-de=Beispiel Tutorial* and on and on. Can someone who is more fluent in a non-Romance language do a quick test to see if make(1) can handle the unicode characters properly? A two-line "Makefile" would be sufficient: all: echo '________________________' where all the underbars should be replaced by some unicode characters. Then, a quick: $ make should show the original characters. Please let me know your results. Thanks! * N.B.: I got this translation from bablefish. Apologies if it is something tacky.

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Self-Introduction: David-Paul Niner
by David-Paul Niner 05 Nov '05

05 Nov '05

Greetings! My name is David-Paul Niner. I am a 35 year-old "just returning to college" male presently residing in Orange Park, Florida (that's a suburb of Jacksonville in the very northeast corner of the state), in the United States. Although I am only presently attending part-time classes (I recently resigned from the local government arena, but enjoyed dragging them into the world of open source nonetheless), I will begin full-time studies in the Computer Science program at the University of North Florida in the Spring of 2006. I enjoy writing immensely. The idea of becoming part of something as important as the Fedora Project excites me; I feel I have much to contribute. My several years experience as a network/systems administrator and my independent studies of CS have allowed me to develop a certain level of comfort when communicating with others on a technical level. However, I also enjoy acting as a translator for those less inclined to learn the more arcane aspects of computer operations and the language itself. Have you ever met someone who was absolutely obsessive about writing and/or grammar perfection? If so, it was probably me. I'm the sort of person who reads everything over two, three, and occasionally four times before committing to it. It's both a blessing and a curse, but it's something I enjoy. I take great pride in attending to detail. I have no formal technical writing training (save for the usual grammar and literature classes taught in college), although I feel confident that I can "hit the ground running" in that area. The simplistic genius of the Gnome environment impresses me; It is that style of interface design--the enormous amount of function balanced against a nearly clutter-free layout--that I find attractive. Having the ability to fine-tune one's desktop environment is, in my opinion, not nearly as important to the average user as some believe; I believe that ease-of-use and intuitiveness will always be more appreciated. If this is a vision shared by you then perhaps I could benefit your team by doing some interface design work. As an aside, I enjoy creative writing as a form of stress relief, and have given serious thought to attempting to publish a work of fiction in the near-to-mid future. I have great respect for both the Fedora Project and for the individual members who compose the whole. Redhat/Fedora is the only flavor of Linux I've seriously come to study, and I've been using one form or another now for nearly eight years (and have used Fedora on the desktop since its conception). I'm now ready to give back in some way if anyone is interested! Below please find my gpg information for review: -------------------------- pub 1024D/215E3188 2005-11-02 Key fingerprint = AA92 20F2 DE95 49AA 860D 814B 6DB3 37A5 215E 3188 uid David-Paul Niner (I'm the real DP!) <dpniner(a)dpniner.net> sub 2048g/48A8C44F 2005-11-02 ---------------------------- Your time and attention are appreciated, David-Paul Niner -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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figure title centering
by Yoshinari Takaoka 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

hi, all. i found that a figure title of the installation guide is not centering, this is the same as original one. for example, http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/fc4/ch-other-install-… IMHO, its title should be also centering because figure is centering. this is because text alignment of a figure title is undefined in fedora.css. but its a docs-common file and its change affects to all document. can i modify fedora.css as follows, or is there an another solution? RCS file: /cvs/docs/docs-common/css/fedora.css,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -r1.7 fedora.css 16a17,20 > p.title { > text-align: center; > } > Regards. -- Yoshinari Takaoka(mumumu@IRC) reversethis -> {gro} {tod} {umumum} {ta} {umumum}

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Offer to assist with editing RPM Guide
by David-Paul Niner 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've only glossed over the topic areas, but what I see looks awesome! It's nice to have a current rpm reference available. If I can be of any assistance, I would be more than willing to help edit. Thank you, David-Paul Niner, RHCE -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDaSZpbbM3pSFeMYgRAhIuAJ9E7aj/kfUdYdpzxVNWpjVjkJBrawCfeEj+ MMn103XKnvvgrMG6m6MhVF0= =SSy5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Self-Introduction: Andrew Martynov
by Andrew Martynov 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Full Name: Andrew Martynov City & Country: Moscow, Russian Federation (GMT+0300) Profession: Trainer, Support Engineer Company: Inventa Your goals in the Fedora Project: Translation of Docs of Fedora Project into Russian language Historical qualifications: - maintainer of FC translation project into Russian - paticipant of translation RHEL manuals at www.rhd.ru/docs/ Computer skills: - linux user since 1999 - RHCE/RHCX certifications GPG KeyID and fingerprint: pub 1024D/30E45693 2005-03-18 Andrew Martynov <andrewm(a)inventa.ru> Key fingerprint = 0AF4 0070 E8A7 8C14 F9E0 97D9 320E 10AB 30E4 5693 sub 2048g/37A9C84D 2005-03-18 [expires: 2010-03-17] Other Details: fedoraproject.org wiki username: AndrewMartynov contact e-mail: andrewm(a)inventa.ru -- Andrew Martynov Inventa phone +7(095)7758777 fax +7(095)9270981 http://www.rhd.ru andrewm(a)inventa.ru

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Draft RPM Guide available online
by Paul Nasrat 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

I'm very pleased to announce that the Red Hat RPM Guide has been made available under the Open Publication Licence, Version 1.0. http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/drafts/rpm-guide-en/ This is much more recent than Maximum RPM and gives a good starting point to work towards living documentation for RPM. Although some sections - notably Chapter 7 requires a complete rewrite. However I wanted to get it out in it's current form (basically as published plus errata). I'd like to thank Eric Foster-Johnson, all those involved in the original formation of the Guide (particularly Jeff Johnson) and Tammy Fox and those at the publishers for helping to make this happen. Also thanks to the Fedora Docs team in particular Stuart Ellis and Karsten Wade for their conversion and push efforts Participation through normal Fedora Documentation process: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/docs/ I'll be attempting to form a team to help edit/update content. If you want to help please follow up to fedora-docs-list. Paul

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Re: Self-introduction: Luya Tshimbalanga
by Luya Tshimbalanga 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Ah that picture, I will add on my profile. Priceless =) >Are you interested in also writing in French and having it translated >into other languages? >I've been very, very curious about this idea for a while. I wonder how >it would work out? I think it would be educational for all of us. Sure. That will further show Fedora Core is an international community project. Luya -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.jp.popstarmail.org

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Self-introduction: Luya Tshimbalanga
by Luya Tshimbalanga 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Luya Tshimbalanga Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Freelance writer and web designer Goal in Fedora Project * I currently write information about the installer (Anaconda) and add features that are included. * Due to my french background, I sometime made a grammatical mistake so I hope writing a styling english text will improve my skil Historical qualification * Fedora News contributor, http://www.fedoranews.org * Author of Fedora Test Guide, a tutorial about installing Fedora Rawhide, in Fedora Project * Author of The VOC Soul Gospel Choir article published on http://workinfonet.bc.ca/youth/mindgallery/earcandy/default.cfm?mode=2&ID=3… * Skilled on XHTML,CSS * W3school certified web developer * Designed draft logo concept for Fedora Project * Fluent in French -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.jp.popstarmail.org

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minutes 1 Nov 2005 FDSCo meeting
by Karsten Wade 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Attending: ---------- Mark Johnson (mrj) Paul Frields (stickster) Stuart Elliss (elliss) Gavin Henry (G2) Tommy Reyonlds (MegaCoder) Karsten Wade (quaid) Regrets: -------- Tammy Fox (temporary leave-of-absence) Schedule of Tasks: ------------------ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/FedoraDocsSchedule Highlights: ----------- * Reaffirmation of FDSCo membership requirements/details. Members are active when they can be involved in Fedora enough to make intelligent decisions as a committee member. When they cannot perform that duty, they are obligated to move themselves to inactive status. The committee should never have to tell someone to leave, except in extreme situations. * The formation of the Fedora Foundation is going to be a good opportunity for FDSCo to review it's organization. This is a good time to morph the shape, form more sub-committees, etc. * Reorganizing the beats in this way: FileSystems -> Kernel/FileSystems DatabaseServers -> NetworkServers/DatabaseServers Networking -> Kernel/Networking ServerTools -> SystemConfigTools EmergingTechnologies (new) NetworkServers (new) -- covers mail, ftp, etc. * Bob Jensen is now the Xorg beat writer. Sweet! * Slip of Fedora schedule does not affect writing, editing, or translating. We are getting a few weeks ahead of our work and have tested our tools and processes. No work is lost. However, some of us may have been under pressure to produce within the deadline. Sorry if you lost any sleep, like I did! ## 30 ## -- Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 Red Hat SELinux Guide http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/selinux-guide/

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Proposal: Makefile improvement for the release notes
by SEKINE Tatsuo 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

Hi, all Now the Makefile has the following entry for the list of XML files: XMLEXTRAFILES-en=daemons-en.xml database-servers-en.xml desktop-en.xml development-tools-en.xml feedback-en.xml file-servers-en.xml file-systems-en.xml hardware-reqs-en.xml install-notes-en.xml intro-en.xml java-package-en.xml kernel-en.xml misc-server-en.xml multimedia-en.xml networking-en.xml overview-en.xml package-movement-en.xml package-notes-en.xml printing-en.xml project-overview-en.xml samba-en.xml security-en.xml server-tools-en.xml splash-en.xml web-servers-en.xml xorg-en.xml IMHO, it could be generalized for the languages like below: ---- 8X ---- 8X ---- 8X ---- 8X ---- 8X ---- 8X ---- 8X ---- define XMLEXTRAFILES_template XMLEXTRAFILES-$(1)=daemons-$(1).xml desktop-$(1).xml development-tools-$(1).xml feedback-$(1).xml file-servers-$(1).xml hardware-reqs-$(1).xml install-notes-$(1).xml intro-$(1).xml java-package-$(1).xml kernel-$(1).xml misc-server-$(1).xml multimedia-$(1).xml networking-$(1).xml overview-$(1).xml package-movement-$(1).xml package-notes-$(1).xml printing-$(1).xml project-overview-$(1).xml samba-$(1).xml security-$(1).xml server-tools-$(1).xml splash-$(1).xml web-servers-$(1).xml xorg-$(1).xml $(foreach LANG,${LANGUAGES},$(eval $(call XMLEXTRAFILES_template,${LANG}))) ---- X8 ---- X8 ---- X8 ---- X8 ---- X8 ---- X8 ---- X8 ---- # I removed unused files(i.e. database-servers-*.xml, # file-systems-*.xml) from it. Regards, -- SEKINE Tatsuo: tsekine(a)sdri.co.jp System Design & Research Inst. Co.,Ltd. http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4797329750

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