docs June 2005

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Self-Introduction: Robert 'Bob' Jensen
by Robert 'Bob' Jensen 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

Full legal name (as you use it is fine) Robert 'Bob' Jensen * St. Cloud, MN, USA * Consultant * Complete Business Computer Consulting * Your goals in the Fedora Project * What do you want to write about? * Anything that will be useful for the new user in plain "non-technical" language. Any geek can blather on and on about a favorite topic in a way that the average use can not understand. Writing docs that the average end user can understand is key. * What other documentation do you want to see published? * So much needs to be done it is hard to pick a place to start. * Do you want to edit for grammar/writing and/or technical accuracy? * I am willing to help the group in any way I can. If I never author a document and just help editing or formatting that is fine with me. * Historical qualifications * What other projects or writing have you worked on in the past? * I have never done a lot of writing but feel the need to help the Fedora Community, as a non-coder I think the Documentation Project is a perfect fit for me. * What level and type of computer skills do you have? * I am a self taught computer user, having done every thing the wrong way twice while reading overly technical docs it has made me appreciate easy to read documentation. * What other skills do you have that might be applicable? User interface design, other so-called soft skills (people skills), programming, etc. * Being a self employed consultant I have many skills including website design, web standards compliance, team leadership and others. * What makes you an excellent match for the project? * Many I am sure say they are willing to help, I am willing to do. I can't wait to get started. * GPG KEYID and fingerprint pub 1024D/CF8E5983 2005-06-23 [expires: 2006-06-23] Key fingerprint = 5CFD 4C17 59B6 C749 C67A 7698 7816 9E49 CF8E 5983 sub 2048g/13B2128E 2005-06-23 [expires: 2006-06-23] -- Robert 'Bob' Jensen Linux User Web - http://www.fedoralinks.org/ Web - http://scalug.us/

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Michael Hideo-Smith
by Michael Hideo Smith 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

Michael Hideo-Smith Alderley, Australia Engineering Red Hat Asia-Pacific Goals: o Promote OSS Input Methods for complex text languages (scim & iiimf) o Promote fonts Historical Qualifications: BFA, Filmic Writing, University of Southern CA 1995 Story Analyst, (covers) New Line Cinema, 1990-1994 Nonfiction: o Social Security Administration, Washington Information Network I & II, InfoLA, InfoBrisbane, Utah QuickCourts, Arizona Quickcourts, LegalAid Queensland. Fiction: o Metrocops, Scouts, 1997, Hollowpoint, Tokyo/Kansas, Love and Rockets (screenplays) o Mermaids, Permanent-Part Time, Rising Son (short stories) Additional Skills: o Editor, speed-reading What makes you an excellent match for the project? o Love of writing and strong desire to ensure people in developing nations can get access to input method writing technologies and fonts to do homeowork, write poetry, short stories, love letters without paying a M$ tax. pub 1024D/1FFB1F47 2005-06-22 Michael Hideo Smith (Internationalisation) <mhideo(a)redhat.com> Key fingerprint = 8086 5DB8 B297 C4D6 E3BB 4FA9 4C5B D8FD 1FFB 1F47 sub 1024g/954B8DDD 2005-06-22 [expires: 2008-06-21] -- Michael H. Smith Red Hat Asia-Pacific Ph: +61 7 3514 8103 Level 2/5 Gardner Close Fx: +61 7 3514 8199 Milton, QLD 4064 Mb: +61 418 182 451 Australia

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Fedora installation
by John M. Poma 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

Hi I run Linux RedHat distro for Enterprise. I download Fedora FC3-i386-disk01.iso -> disk04.iso. Reading your web installation site I try: To start the installation program, boot from the DVD, the first CD, or the boot CD made from the boot.iso image. Result: Unable to boot with the iso format file and I think that's probably normal. How, with Linux 2.4.21-4.ELsmp, to transform the iso to a bootable CD? Thanks a lot for your help. John Poma <swordman(a)actcom.net.il>

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More Contributors added.
by Gavin Henry 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Contributors -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. Managing Director. T +44 (0) 1224 279484 M +44 (0) 7930 323266 F +44 (0) 1224 742001 E ghenry(a)suretecsystems.com Open Source. Open Solutions(tm). http://www.suretecsystems.com/

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Introduction
by W. Guy Thomas 23 Jun '05

23 Jun '05

Hello, my name is Guy also known as 'misfit-toy' on #fedora. An unfortunate choice of nicks made while my daughter was watching rudolph the rednose reindeer. In any case, I am joining in here at the direction of mether and quaid to bring up two web sites I have that are devoted to fedora and see what direction I should take, if any... The 1st site is http://fedorasolved.com which is what I call a 'reverse forum' in which there are no questions, only answers. Users post issues they have resolved themselves. There are no followup questions unless a 'fix' post is called into question. The 2nd site is one formed recently by a number of independent website owners such as myself in the hopes of getting some kind of cohesion amongst us 'third party' sites. http://fedorasolved.com/fccp I suppose my first question is one of authenticity? i.e. do you think these sites are valid in the eyes of fedora-marketing and should they continue as is, or change, or close? Fedorasolved is getting quite a bit of traffic lately as people pick up on it, but I have avoided 'self promotion'. Are there any plans to incorporate listings of private websites such as mine and others or are we on our own or are we stepping on toes here? Just a few starter questions. Hope to participate here. Thanks for your consideration. p.s. I am posting this identical email to fedora-marketing but not cross-posting it, so if you are on both lists forgive me for the duplication. -- W. Guy Thomas <mrguytx(a)austin.rr.com>

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Bugzilla assistance
by Paul W. Frields 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

Karsten (or others), Is it possible that some of the folks here could get Bugzilla "clearance" to help resolve and reassign bugs in Bugzilla? There's a number of bugs starting to pile up that are either (1) bugs that should be filed against other components, (2) quick fixes that we could resolve after fixing in CVS, or (3) blank bugs saved either by accident or through user Lack O' Clue(tm). While it's possible that this initial surge may die down, would you like some help clearing out some of the chaff? Consider this an offer of same. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Documentation Project: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/docs/

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glossary.collection
by James Laska 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

I've been following the setup steps to get dynamic glossary creation working. The steps are outlined at the following URL: http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/GlossDatabase.html Are there any known limitations with xsltproc where it will not generate the glossary database. I've googled on this subject and have found similar problems encountered by others ... but no resolution. I'm curious if any others have experience with using glossary.collection? Thanks, -- James Laska <jlaska(a)redhat.com>

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Minutes from 21 June 2005 FDSCo meeting
by Karsten Wade 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

Enjoy. Fedora Documentation Steering Committee (FDSCo) 21 June 2005 #fedora-docs on irc.freenode.net Attendees: ========== Tammy Fox Paul Frields Stuart Ellis Tommy Reynolds Karsten Wade Gavin Henry New Stuff: ========== Docs-common module completed. See this message for more details: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2005-June/msg00090.html Translation process needed. Relnotes are special and need to be translated throughout test cycles, then a final update to go out with the fedora-release package. We need a process to vet that quality and faithfulness of the translation. For the entire release notes process, there is a hard freeze deadlines, first for the release notes so test and final translations can be done, then for translation itself. The relnotes are frozen and perhaps tagged for translation To resolve PDF toolchain issues, set criteria or test cases for success. Task Stuff: =========== Stuart - File a bug with a suggestion to put the pre-filled bugzilla at the bottom of a checklist of options, within the relnotes. Karsten - Minute taker updates the list of tasks at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/FedoraDocsSchedule following the meeting and release of these minutes. Karsten - Talk with DKL about upping the rights of FDSCo members for fedora-docs component in bugzilla Karsten - Release definition of how tasks are tracked. 1. Whiteboard projects on Wiki 2. Convert each task into a bug report 3. Make one or more master tracker bugs 4. Use the dependency tree in bugzilla to track tasks reason to use bugzilla is that it is a common tool that will do enough of what we need, as long as we use a manual workflow on top of it. tasks could be documents with their own set of dependencies, or a chapter, a feature request, etc. tasks can be infrastructure related, so for example with alexandria (staging server), we break it down into the pieces that need work. then http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/FedoraDocsSchedule/ becomes a place that links to specific master tracking bugs. this is similar with other wiki pages, e.g. EditorAssignments Karsten - Make sure docs and trans are part of main FC schedule. Start conversation about process with f-trans-l Karsten - Make staging server description more clear, release to f-docs-l for comments, work on getting resources. Karsten - Post mirror-tutorial. Karsten - Get Stuart and Paul added to the ACLs for f.r.c in cvs. Paul - Post license question to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLegalIssues FDSCo - Subscribe to f-trans-l (for now). Tommy - Looking at adding Saxon to xmlto. Tommy - Looking into using gcj to compile Saxon and FOP. Tommy - Write up how to branch and tag in CVS, for the mailing list and then for the DocG -- Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 Red Hat SELinux Guide http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/selinux-guide/

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For Rahul
by Gavin Henry 19 Jun '05

19 Jun '05

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/7237 >From StillBob? -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. Managing Director. T +44 (0) 1224 279484 M +44 (0) 7930 323266 F +44 (0) 1224 742001 E ghenry(a)suretecsystems.com Open Source. Open Solutions(tm). http://www.suretecsystems.com/

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Re: Fwd: zh_CN.po for IG done.
by Andrew Martynov 17 Jun '05

17 Jun '05

Hello, Sarah and Bernd! Could we add some new translation modules for FC documentation translation process. It is good idea to start with release-notes module as two (ru and zn_CN) translations already done. I think we can allow translators prepare initial translation while we are discussing scripting details with Karsten. 26612-93081-81235-84331 -- Best regards, Andrew Martynov Inventa Yuan Yijun wrote: >Greetings, >see fedora-gro cvs[1] for the po files, scripts and HTML output. Using xml2po. >When can we have a uniform translation process? > >BTW, the zh_CN.po for release-notes is here[2] and the updated scripts >are here[3]. >Thanks to A.M. and Fundawang @ Mandriva > >-- >bbbush ^_^ > >[1] http://gro.clinux.org/scm/cvsweb.php/sites/com.redhat.fedora.cvs.docs/insta… >[2] http://gro.clinux.org/scm/cvsweb.php/sites/com.redhat.fedora.cvs.docs/relea… >[3] http://gro.clinux.org/scm/cvsweb.php/sites/com.redhat.fedora.cvs.docs/jargo… > >-- >Fedora-trans-list mailing list >Fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-list > >

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