Self-introduction: Thierry Sayegh De Bellis
by Thierry
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Hi everyone,
Since my name is a bit of a mouthful I usually just go by Thierry :-)
I currently live in Cambridge, UK and work for Motorola as a result of a
recent acquisition of my employer by said Motorola mammoth. I have been
traditionally responsible for anything and everything pertaining to
Linux in the business where we mainly use RHEL. Typical exposure would
be the corporate web server, some mysql/postgres, ftp, proxy, nfs/nis or
a CPU farm running a mixture of x86 and x86_64 arch with too much RAM. I
also help with our SCM solution (perforce) and our document management
suite.
Due to my friendliness with foreign languages and the fact that I have
traveled a bit (lived in France (home), Ireland, Italy (the missus'
home) and now UK) and speak 3 languages on a daily basis, I have been
known to work as a French translator (actually running the French team)
being responsible for the localization of tech manuals, proof-reading,
appropriate Q&A and DTP quality control as well as tech & linguistic
accuracy.
I fell into IT acting as the part-time sysadmin and within a year ended
up being the full-time IT guy, a 'jack of all trades' role where i was
dabbing at Netware, Windows and Linux. My then boss paid for my training
and so did my following employers; or I did it myself. I own a few MCP
and am RHCE on RHEL ES 4.
This background probably makes me a kind of engineer who knows how to
spell most of the time and has some heterogeneous systems integration
mileage.
My first Linux install was from a few floppies back in '93 (slack?) to a
continuous stream of various Redhat flavors, the fedora beta and now
rebuilding my home network using FC6. RAID, rsync and all that jazz...
On my spare time I try to learn python (real newbie) when not enjoying
some quality time with my best half.
I am willing to give a hand and am open to ideas as to where I can be
useful.
cheers
Thierry
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Docs Self Introduction :Dimitrios Typaldos
by Dimitrios Typaldos
Self-Introduction: Dimitrios Typaldos
Hello !
Full legal name (as you use it is fine) : Dimitrios Typaldos
City: Birmingham,
Country: United Kingdom
Timezone: GMT
Profession or Student status:
PhD candidate student
Particle Physics
University of Birmingham, UK
Newly introduced in the Fedora Project but as a user for long time , I am intending to contribute initially in software translation/documentation (in greek as this is my native language) and later in technical issues (for the moment I have some time constraints). I have the passion to learn and get involved as much as I can in linux os.
Computer skills :
- shell script programming , C/C++/FORTRAN at good level and a bit of python
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Fedora Docs bulid tools and poss. libxslt changes
by Paul W. Frields
Since Karsten tells me we have 578 people on fedora-docs-list, I'm
hoping someone out there can help troubleshoot this problem. Out of
desperation, I'm cc'ing Mr. Veillard, who I hope will take pity and not
squash me like a grape. :-)
In moving to FC6, I've found that one of my previous templates has
"broken." Given their excruciating attention to detail, I'm guessing
this has to do with either a better adherence to standards in the newer
libxslt-1.1.18, or a fix to a bug that I was unknowingly taking
advantage of in FC5 (libxslt-1.1.15). I can't find anything through
Google to help me figure out what's changed, and I'm no XSLT expert.
http://phpfi.com/178472 -- bookinfo.xsl
http://phpfi.com/178473 -- templates.xsl
http://phpfi.com/178474 -- rpm-info.xml
To see the problem, download the files and:
$ xsltproc bookinfo.xsl rpm-info.xml
Note the new behavior under libxslt-1.1.18 produces a DocBook XML
snippet with an empty <author/> element, where there used to be content
as required by the DocBook DTD. I inserted a few <xsl:message> elements
to check whether "@worker" is evaluating properly, which it is. But the
"$who" variable is not being carried to the templates.xsl sheet
properly. Does anyone have any ideas? And can anyone tell me why this
worked in libxslt-1.1.15 and not now?
--
Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/
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16 years, 10 months
Seasons Greetings
by Markus McLaughlin
I just want to send Thanksgiving greetings to all the American
contributers to Fedora Core.
I hope you all have safe travels and have some rest from programming and
other work.
I would LOVE a screenshot from Fedora Core 7 Alpha 1 in the next month
or so....
Mark McLaughlin - marknetproductionsentrance.blogspot.com
16 years, 10 months
minutes/results FDSCo meeting 21-Nov-2006
by Karsten Wade
* Checked stats of various Web pages
Top five popular .*Docs.* pages on fedoraproject.org are:
1. Docs
2. DocsProject
3. Docs/Drafts/DesktopUserGuide/Communication
4. Docs/Drafts/DesktopUserGuide/Tour
5. Docs/Drafts/DesktopUserGuide/
* Worked on elections stuff
Swiped some stuff from FESCo to start with:
** DRAFT **
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Policy/FDSCoElections
** DRAFT **
* FDP needs to somehow formally engage with FI about i18n.redhat.com
move
## Karsten action
* Paul is looking into Plone + Zope, learning about how to wrangle it,
with assistance from our friends at Fedora Unity
Over the course of the hours, attendees included:
Bob Jensen
Paul Frields
Karsten Wade
Mike McGrath (guest)
Jesse Keating (guest)
DaMaestro (guest)
Jeff Spaleta (guest)
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Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project
Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject
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Self-Introduction : AndrewLin
by AndrewLin
Hello, everybody:
My name is AndrewLin, and I am new to Fedora.
The following is my introduction.
Name: AndrewLin
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
Job: Software engineer
Goal: I want to translate documents into Traditional-Chinese language.
Skills: programming languages: C/C++, VB, VB.NET, ASP.NET, C#.
os: Windows series.
db: MS Sql, Oracle, MySql
GPG info:
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16 years, 10 months
[Fwd: Question about copyright and translations]
by A S Alam
Hi
I m CCing your message to Documentation Project, where you can
get more infomation regarding copyright Translation
thanks
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A S Alam
timezone: GMT+5:30
join us at #fedora-l10n (freenode)
"Either find a way or make one"
16 years, 10 months
[Fwd: Some activity on Fedora Hosted Projects]
by Dimitris Glezos
Do you guys think that the Docs Project would be benefited if it was hosted on Trac?
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Subject: Some activity on Fedora Hosted Projects
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:50:18 -0500
From: Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com>
To: fedora-advisory-board(a)redhat.com
One of the things identified at the summit was that we wanted to provide some
soft of hosting for projects. This wouldn't necessarily be Fedora specific
projects, but being able to use your Fedora accounts to get something going
quickly, with source control etc. would be highly valuable.
Since I needed some project space for pungi, I started looking at what was
around, and gave Trac (http://trac.edgewall.org/) a serious look. It's
picked up the ability to use an hg repository, which is pretty important to
me, and there is the beginnings of git support, perhaps enough to make use of
it now. Add to that the ability to tie into our existing accounts system for
authenticated actions, and the ability for a project admin to make changes to
the project all through the web makes trac a pretty compelling choice for
software to manage our hosted projects. There seems to be a fairly decent
community around Trac and solid community contribution to the project itself
so there seems to be some sustainability there.
For a proof of concept, I setup a xen guest with FC6, tossed trac on there in
a multiproject configuration and added pungi as one of the projects. I'm
going to approach some of the other psuedo hosted projects we've got going on
to see if they would be interested in playing in the proof of concept land.
I also created a wiki page to cover this:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/ProjectHosting
I'd like some input from the board if this is the right direction envisioned
for project hosting, and if any more effort (now or later) should be spent in
this direction. For me, I got project space for pungi. I still have a few
hoops to jump through before it's really useful (moving the actual hg repo of
pungi to a new location, changing documentation, etc..) but its a good start.
--
Jesse Keating
Release Engineer: Fedora
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Dimitris Glezos
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"He who gives up functionality for ease of use
loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous)
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16 years, 10 months
Introduction
by Draciron Smith
Greetings folks.
Wasn't born wth Draciron as a name. Made it up to use as a pen name and a
stage name (Play guitar & bass). I'm a 40 year old long haired Linux
enthusiast.
My qualifications besides willingness.
Made my living for last 17 years or so by cussing at computers. Believe it
or not people pay pretty good for that. Sometimes I even made them work :)
Started as a programmer. Then being one of the few folks willing to learn
SQL in the early days I got trapped into being the DBA of test systems, then
small production systems, then full scale millions of records type systems.
Just when I got good at it they made me a project manager. I had a nasty
habit of caring a bit too much about the customer. So I went back to being a
programmer/DBA/Project lead AKA cussing at computers. Unlike sys admins who
get to cuss at computers in public sometimes they'd stick me in a cube with
other cussers or way back in the artic circle otherwise known as offices
next to or in the server room. One day I show up for a new programming job
and they make me a System architect. Not quite sure how that happened but
turns out I was pretty good at it. So of course nobody wanted to let me do
that again. Once I was done archetecting (Is that a word?) I showed up for
a programming job. Turns out the guy I was replacing wasn't actually a
programmer. They only called him one. He was a pretty good robot builder and
Sys Admin. I made the mistake of admiting I'd built and run small test
networks. So I became the backup admin for a major lab and an entire
department. In the years I was there I actually forgot most of what I knew
about coding despite my job title for the first few years having developer
in it. I never wrote code. I filled out more lines on forms than wrote
lines of code. Turned into a pretty good Sys admin. Also served as DBA for
the groups I was attached too, pushed paper and did lots of network
security. Enjoyed that and was pretty good at that as well. I guess this
means nobody will hire me to do that either now.
On the serious side. I've been doing IT for a long time proffesionally.
Before that as a hobby and semi-pro. I am also a writer. Novels tend to be
more of what I write. Not all of them are emails either. Contrary to this
email I do know where the spell and grammer checkers are and use them for
anything I turn in to be read by an audience. Most of my technical writing
has been documenting programs I wrote, System arch that I designed, how
to's on various topics for companies I've worked for and articles on network
security. My favorite way to write a technical how to is to walk somebody
through the process I'm trying to describe in the doc. The hardest part I
have is that things which for me are instinctive and second nature are not
always universally understood by my intended audience. By walking somebody
thorugh it and taking copious notes during the torture session, I remember
those little steps that make a big difference if you don't do it and gain
the benifit of questions that I would not have thought to answer otherwise.
Sometimes questions I do not know off hand, even with software I wrote. I
can tell you how it worked but sometimes the why behind it wasn't always so
clear in the specs I worked from.
My experience with Linux started with a friend trying to convince me to
convert my 386-sx-40 to use Linux. I only had a meg of ram on it but this
didn't seem to phase my friend. I read up and it needed way more RAM than I
had. A few years later, around 96 I bought a Slackware CD. I was curious
about Linux. Even got it to install on a 486 DX2-66. Took me a week. The
biggest problem was that the CD controller wasn't IDE. It was on the Sound
card. A very common way of doing things back then. After I got it installed
I said cool and could not find any reference to the commands. X wasn't
installed. So my next foray was with either Caldara 2.0 or RedHat 5.0 I was
running both distros on different machines for a time. I actually got
usefull things done with these distros. Wasn't until RH 6 that I actually
really got into Linux. By RH 6.3 I was doing most things on Linux but still
relied on Windoze boxes for Internet and several other tasks which I
couldn't find Linux equivs or they didn't exist yet. In 2000 I started
working in a Linux shop. That was when I finally went all Linux. I still had
RH 6.3 on my main home machine as late as 2001. I have run several distros
but RH/Fedora has always been the best distro out there. Ever since
6.3there's been nothing close. I am just now trying out FC6. In fact
that is
why I don't have this email signed. Yum has my machine a little handcuffed.
Soon as I'm down getting all of the hundreds of apps I want installed on the
machine then I can generate the critter. Yum's kinda busy until then :)
I've used every version RH has put out from 5.0 to FC5 extensively except
FC1 which I never even tried and FC4 which I used for a week and took the
machine back to FC3 until FC5 came out. Currently I run two FC5 boxes and
just moved this machine from FC3 to FC6. I've also used RHE but not
extensively.
I am a musician, and can also probably help with sound related stuff.
Security related stuff. Database related work. Server related configuration.
Well hopefully that gives y'all a pretty good idea about me and my technical
background. I hope it'll be handy with one documentation project or
another. Will be happy to submit a sample of more formal type writing. I do
spell and grammar check when writing formally. Also please don't ask me to
write docs on old school nix stuff like vi. I'd rather chew my leg off with
a dull vampire bat than use vi.
Good to meet y'all, at least the ones still awake after opening this email.
My ex-used to say that all she needed when she couldn't sleep was to ask me
about computers. She'd be sound asleep in minutes.
Drac
16 years, 10 months
Re: Jargon Buster wikification
by Paul W. Frields
I'm taking this discussion to the fedora-docs-list so that others can
offer their input. We should try and keep these discussions there so
the community can get informed and involved.
On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 23:00 +0300, John Babich wrote:
> I agree that needless movement between DocBook XML and the wiki can be
> a waste of time, and almost always should be avoided. Editing in the
> wiki can be a crutch and prevent people like me from learning Emacs in
> greater depth, which is one of my reasons for wanting to be involved
> in the project in the first place.
I like the idea of more contributions to the glossary. It's a worthy
goal. I just wish that, at the same time as we get more contributions,
we were also encouraging people to submit the changes in a more
automatically trackable way. That way is Bugzilla. (I'm reminded that
random people can't contribute to our wiki -- they have to go through a
series of steps (you've done them, of course) including the CLA.)
Wiki notifications are a fine way for anyone currently using the wiki to
pick up "what needs to be done." But what about John Newuser, who just
joined? He starts at square one, and even if he has CVS and DocBook
skills, and is well-informed enough to turn on all his notifications
immediately, he will have no idea what entries need to be moved. He
can't get backdated notifications.
Bugzilla is a queue of problems that any motivated contributor can
consult for a "to-do" list. John Newuser can look at the list, pick a
problem, and get down to business. Bug and task tracking tools are the
ideal way to capture this work, and produce other useful information
like how long it's taking to get them closed or handled. The wiki
satisfies none of those needs, unfortunately.
Again, I'm not blasting use of the wiki -- but it's very clear to me
that it's not a sustainable and valuable tool in the way that SCM and
Bugzilla clearly are. It's merely good for collecting raw material
quickly.
[...snip...]
> So I agree that DocBook XML is the almost always best way to go.
> Karsten, you shared some great ideas on improving the online editing
> through some Python programming to make more of a workflow among the
> writers / editors / translators. This can then be captured as valid
> DocBook XML through an easy-to-use feature.
Again, there's a reason everyone uses DocBook! :-)
> However, the Glossary may be the exception to the "Always write in
> Docbook XML" rule. Of all the documents, the [Fedora] Glossary page
> can be very useful if used on the wiki in its full form. That's one
> reason I suggested it.
However, it can't be useful from that location for packaging or
alternate publishing methods such as HTML, PDF, and/or RPM packaging.
> I see it as a place where we, the Docs Team, as well as all the other
> Wiki users, can add technical terms as needed to make online entries
> more accessible to our entire range of readers. For instance, I
> didn't have a clue what SCIM is - until I saw it in the glossary.
Again, a good Bugzilla template would also work, and users would only
need to fill in the name of the term. A writer and/or editor could
write the definition from scratch if the contributor couldn't, or didn't
want to.
> If we keep a copy of the glossary on the wiki, which can grow
> organically as people add new terms, then I believe it becomes a more
> useful tool. When it reaches a certain level of maturity, then a
> snapshot can be captured of the wiki glossary and converted to a more
> permanent form. (That's where the "convert to DocBook XML" button
> would come in handy.) Even then, it will keep evolving on the wiki.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Glossary seems pretty modular by
> nature and lends itself to "chunky" updates. Does that make it easier
> or harder to convert?
I was hoping "easier," at first, but the more I think about it, the more
I think you're making my job (as editor) very difficult. The wiki can't
capture cross references well, for example. Every time we snapshot the
page for a DocBook conversion, we will have to reconvert all those cross
references, of which a good glossary will be chock full. There are
probably other high-visibility tags in there that are going to be a real
PITA to convert.
> The Glossary can also serve as a convenient place to refer people from
> other documents such as tutorials. For example, "See SCIM in the
> Glossary for more detail".
Yes, but that's no different than an online HTML publication. :-)
Again, I think there are good arguments on both sides, and I am happy to
simply try and keep up with the wiki changes at this point, integrating
them into the canonical CVS copy. I think the next 18 months will see a
big change if enough people start getting involved[1] in learning about
the CMS and how to make it do what Fedora needs for documentation
efforts.
= = =
[1] To that end, I installed Zope and Plone and have been running some
tutorials to start getting my brain wrapped around how this stuff works.
I would recommend others do likewise; the installation and running the
tutorial are quite simple, and I'm happy to write a short checklist of
how to accomplish these steps if anyone needs it.
--
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