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09:07 < quaid> <meeting>
09:07 < quaid> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings#Agenda
09:07 < quaid> good morning (again) all
09:08 < megacoder> hello
09:08 * couf does a gang-wave
09:08 < McGiwer> howdy
09:08 < McGiwer> :)
09:08 < quaid> I'll do the log/summary again today; it's been useful for me
09:09 < quaid> when we get to the tasks list, we'll pick one of us to do the editing for the group
09:09 < couf> cool :-)
09:09 < McGiwer> ok! :>
09:09 < jmbuser> +1
09:09 < quaid> jmbuser: for the record before we get started, sorry Luis was all mean to you this week, although I *think* it wasn't really about you :)
09:09 < quaid> I've been trying to figure out a reply ... and not sure if there is
09:10 < jmbuser> quaid: Silence is golden :-)
09:10 < quaid> jmbuser: just remember, he is about to become a lawyer, so he'll be getting his perdition on Earth without any help from us
09:10 < quaid> right!
09:10 < quaid> moving right along ...
09:10 < jmbuser> jmbuser: Lawyers are people, too.
09:11 < quaid> worthy of pity
09:11 < quaid> capable of sin
09:11 < jmbuser> nuff said
09:11 < megacoder> jmbuser, that _is_ newsworthy!
09:11 < quaid> so, to the agenda ...
09:12 < quaid> paul, help me out ... i really want to do a final read through of the IG but haven't found time, are we "too late"?
09:15 < couf> quaid: he might not be around due to wife's birthday
09:16 < quaid> d'oh!
09:16 < quaid> sorry, i forgot that
09:16 * quaid stupidly waiting for no respoonse
09:17 < megacoder> nak
09:17 < quaid> I guess he put his answers in the Agenda then
09:17 < couf> yeah, it mentions "final draft" so you'll still have time to read through, I guess
09:17 < quaid> ... I'll find out about that later, see what the l10n status is
09:18 < quaid> ok, next
09:18 < quaid> jmbuser: do you want to define a final production schedule for the UG?
09:19 < quaid> not something set in stone, just something to work against
09:19 < jmbuser> quaid: Sure
09:19 < quaid> you could make a subpage DP/Schedule/UserGuide, for example
09:20 < jmbuser> quaid: ok - one big deadline or phases?
09:21 < quaid> well, there have to be some phases
09:21 < quaid> finished in wiki, converted to XML, finish that draft, then publish and drop for trans
09:21 < quaid> jmbuser: but any more granular than that, it's up to you all
09:22 < quaid> ok, and I think we need the same thing for the AG
09:22 < quaid> but we need to take it off the regular agenda, since we are pushing it out a bit to land between releases
09:22 < jmbuser> quaid: ok, any thoughts on a realistic date for "finished in wiki"?
09:23 < quaid> ... since we don't have a team formalized around it, per se ...
09:23 < couf> jmbuser: within 2-3 weeks?
09:23 < couf> quaid: +1
09:23 < quaid> yeah, try two weeks
09:23 * stickster drops in for a sec
09:23 < quaid> here's the thing ... we want to make it better than before, resolve as much of the bad stuff as we can
09:23 < stickster> IG copy is available at my page fp.o/PaulWFrields/Drafs
09:24 < quaid> so I might argue for a feature-based release of the UG v. a time-based release
09:24 < quaid> however!
09:24 < stickster> I resolved many bugs with it, but Rawhide has been difficult to test with recently
09:24 < jmbuser> couf: I do end-of-month reporting in my day job...and it's end of the month, unfortunately
09:24 < stickster> It is back today
09:24 < quaid> we don't want the kitten to die ..
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09:24 < quaid> so, I reckon we set an artificial deadline
09:24 < stickster> re IG: didn't make any special notice to l10n but some teams are keeping up, notably "pt"
09:24 < quaid> and see how much we can do in that timeframe, then call if we want to stop or continue
09:25 < quaid> stickster: ok
09:25 * stickster ducks out again, sorry to intersperse comments
09:25 < quaid> stickster: I'll make a point to read through ASAPso we can put it to bed
09:25 -!- jmbuser [n=jmbuser(a)22.214.171.124] has joined #fedora-docs
09:25 * quaid repeats for jmbuser
09:25 < quaid> we don't want the kitten to die ..
09:25 < quaid> so, I reckon we set an artificial deadline
09:25 < quaid> and see how much we can do in that timeframe, then call if we want to stop or continue
09:25 < couf> jmbuser: no problem, just an idea :-)
09:25 < quaid> jmbuser: so, a "time based release" that is influenced by how we feel the features are close to complete
09:25 * couf needs to drop for some minutes
09:26 < quaid> so, three weeks to give you the week you need here for $DAYJOB
09:26 < jmbuser> quaid: Sounds good
09:26 < quaid> I intend to do the Heavy Editing Hammer of Thor part, and I'll need a few more weeks to be able to do that anyway :)
09:26 < quaid> ok, then
09:27 < quaid> the relnotes are good
09:27 < quaid> all GOLD and stuff
09:27 < quaid> and looks like we'll have some zero-day updates
09:27 < quaid> I presume that means we'll update the package as well as push live to the Web
09:27 < quaid> now ...
09:27 < quaid> there is the Web-only update
09:27 < jmbuser> I would like to do the common apps/desktop-specific apps approach, allowing for "include" magic to create a GNOME and KDE Live Cd edition
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09:28 < jmbuser> jmbuser (to wrap up the topic of FUG)
09:28 < quaid> I think we're happy with that approach (?)
09:28 < quaid> yes?
09:29 < quaid> i.e., if you choose a KDE install, it's going to install different defaults for certain things, and that is what we are documenting.
09:29 < jmbuser> quaid: Capture updates in the wiki first?
09:29 < quaid> jmbuser: for the relnotes?
09:29 < quaid> yeah, that was what I was pondering here
09:29 < quaid> yes, we need to i) diff the Wiki for the updates, ii) update the XML,and iii) publish from that
09:31 < McGiwer> hm
09:31 < McGiwer> is the final iso spin already done?
09:31 < McGiwer> for F7 release?
09:32 < quaid> yes
09:32 < McGiwer> theoretically it should be
09:32 < McGiwer> but from practice
09:32 < McGiwer> ... ;)
09:33 < McGiwer> ok
09:33 < quaid> ready to move on to tasks?
09:33 < McGiwer> yeah
09:33 < quaid> anything more on stuff to publish for F7?
09:34 * quaid waits a few seconds ...
09:34 < McGiwer> i think i'll translate the relnotes to Polish
09:34 < McGiwer> to be ready for the final release
09:34 < McGiwer> but only for web version
09:34 < McGiwer> as the iso spin is already done :)
09:35 < McGiwer> eof
09:35 < quaid> right
09:35 < quaid> they can go into an update of fedora-release-notes
09:35 < quaid> and people who make Live CD spins of the updated packages will get the Polish translation
09:36 < McGiwer> hmm, indeed
09:36 < McGiwer> good idea :)
09:36 < McGiwer> thx
09:36 < McGiwer> so ok, i think we can go on
09:36 < McGiwer> with the agenda
09:37 * couf comes back
09:38 < couf> quaid: one thing, should we add a relnotes link on the static pages?
09:39 < quaid> ah, good question ...
09:39 < couf> meaning, the static homepage that is (not docs)
09:39 < quaid> http://fedoraproject.org/_/
09:39 < quaid> that is where the F-7 changes are being worked out
09:39 < quaid> where would we want to put a link? under TOOLS?
09:40 < McGiwer> hm
09:40 < McGiwer> could be
09:40 * megacoder doesn't think folk should need to drill for that
09:41 < couf> yeah tools or maybe on the same level as the "Get it now"-links
09:41 < quaid> "Release Notes"
09:41 < glezos> btw, great work with the re-engineering of the homepage (i'm sure quaid had something to do with it too)
09:42 < megacoder> "get it now" +1
09:42 < glezos> I have to go guys, if there is something I am needed, ask away, otherwise I'll respond to the list
09:42 < McGiwer> hmm, Get it now would be better
09:42 < McGiwer> than tools, i think
09:42 < McGiwer> ;]
09:43 < McGiwer> so +1 for "Get it now"
09:44 < quaid> glezos: yo, good to see you around; I helped steer the monkeys, ricky zhou and mizmo did all the CSS lifting for sure
09:44 < quaid> I'll try Get it now and we'll see how it looks
09:45 < quaid> well, that is not the same thing as Get it now, though
09:45 < quaid> we'll keep looking
09:45 < quaid> moving along to the Tasks List ...
09:45 < quaid> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Tasks
09:46 < quaid> so, that is a bug, ugly beast
09:46 < quaid> s/bug/big/
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09:47 < couf> who's gonna update it?
09:47 < quaid> heh
09:47 < quaid> I'm going to keep working on this stuff after we close, so unless anyone else is hanging around ...
09:48 < quaid> I'll just go ahead and do the edit this week
09:48 < quaid> s/edit/edit and update/
09:48 < quaid> so, ideas to make it work better ...
09:48 < McGiwer> do u need help?
09:48 < quaid> McGiwer: yes, in that we all need to talk about what changes to make to it
09:49 < couf> quaid: any way, we can do something like happend with the */Join stuff
09:49 < quaid> make sub-pages?
09:50 < McGiwer> hmm
09:50 < couf> probably yeah, and keep the main tasklist very small (KISS)
09:50 < quaid> like ....
09:50 < couf> as in, not scaring away people
09:50 < McGiwer> we could create some main points
09:50 < quaid> DP/Tasks/Easy ?
09:50 < jmbuser> Prioritize
09:50 * stickster stops in for 60 sec
09:50 < McGiwer> and then connect to the main points some sub-tasks
09:50 < McGiwer> :>
09:50 < stickster> quaid: -1
09:51 < couf> ow yeah, that's a different approach, may be better
09:51 < stickster> quaid: DP/Tasks/Difficult
09:51 < quaid> jmbuser: but we can't leave it as one big list, though
09:51 < stickster> bury the things for experts, not the other way 'round
09:51 < quaid> right
09:51 < couf> stickster: +1
09:51 < jmbuser> quaid: Agreed
09:51 < quaid> well, not buried as much ..
09:51 < quaid> ok, so then how about
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09:51 < quaid> we divide by difficulty, then use Include() to pull in the /Easy tasks to be front-and-center?
09:52 < quaid> right below a Table of Contents
09:52 < jmbuser> quaid:+1
09:52 < quaid> do we want to group by type?
09:52 < McGiwer> great!
09:52 < McGiwer> :)
09:52 < couf> hmm, not sure
09:52 < McGiwer> +1 for quaid's idea
09:52 < quaid> i.e., "short writing" "long writing"
09:52 < quaid> "editing" "tools" etc.
09:52 < McGiwer> the second
09:52 < McGiwer> rather
09:52 < McGiwer> editing, tools etc.
09:53 < couf> seems to really bury the "more difficult" stuff
09:53 < couf> I'd use the main tasks as a "You want it Easy -> check out this page and you might wanna learn a+b+c (learn will working)"
09:54 < quaid> that argues for *not* displaying any tasks on that page, but having it be a pointer to sub-pages
09:54 < couf> yeah, that's the only drawback
09:55 < quaid> we could pull the list in below, so it is still there v. a click deeper
09:55 < couf> which seems to be more like the join-page should look like
09:56 < McGiwer> hm
09:56 < quaid> ToC
09:56 < quaid> How To Take a Task
09:56 < quaid> Easy Tasks
09:56 < quaid> Challenging Tasks
09:56 < quaid> Hard Tasks
09:56 < quaid> == How to ... ==
09:56 < quaid> [[Include(Easy)]]
09:56 < McGiwer> ;d
09:56 < McGiwer> :)
09:57 * stickster likes only listing Easy tasks, than linking at the bottom "If you are looking for something more challenging, *go here*"
09:57 < stickster> repeat as necessary
09:57 < couf> quaid: okay seems sane +1
09:57 < quaid> stickster: I think that is nearly the same thing ...
09:57 < quaid> maybe move the How to around
09:58 < McGiwer> hmm, and what about listing the categories
09:58 < McGiwer> and then, inside
09:58 < McGiwer> divide it to easy and more challenging tasks?
09:58 < quaid> i think organize the list themselves by categories
09:58 < quaid> oic
09:58 < quaid> you mean, "Easy Editing". "Easy Writing", etc
09:59 < quaid> or rather, "Editing > Easy, Editing > Hard"
09:59 < quaid> I guess my concern there is ... putting scary stuff in front of new people :)
09:59 < McGiwer> i mean sth like this:
10:00 < McGiwer> ToC
10:00 < couf> aye, I'd even think the word "edit" will be scary
10:00 < McGiwer> one category
10:00 < McGiwer> second category
10:00 < McGiwer> and inside one category
10:00 < McGiwer> == Easy stuff ==
10:00 < McGiwer> == More challenging stuff ==
10:00 < McGiwer> ;d
10:00 < McGiwer> :)
10:01 < couf> aah, just two categories
10:01 < quaid> that is going to make a list that is too long, though
10:01 < JonRob> one big improvement that is really easy - remove the finished tasks?
10:01 < McGiwer> couf no
10:01 < McGiwer> more catogories
10:01 < McGiwer> this is just an example
10:01 < McGiwer> hmm
10:01 < couf> JonRob: remove, or move somewhere else?
10:02 < quaid> JonRob: sure, move to another page
10:02 < McGiwer> or just move it to the end of the list
10:02 < McGiwer> or create a new category
10:02 < McGiwer> "Finished"
10:02 < McGiwer> or "Done"
10:03 < JonRob> are you thinking of still keeping the table layout?
10:03 < couf> okay, so we'll have Tasks/Easy, Tasks/Challenge, Task/Difficult, Task/Finished
10:03 < McGiwer> look here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Tasks
10:04 < McGiwer> there are Closed/Completed Tasks
10:04 < couf> JonRob: good question
10:04 < McGiwer> but in Open tasks
10:04 < McGiwer> thera are still some remaining
10:04 * quaid is not sure how to do this without a table, though
10:04 < McGiwer> and there's a "Done" comment
10:04 < McGiwer> i would be for a table layout
10:04 < JonRob> quaid: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join
10:05 < couf> if we keep the list very small, it's doable without table
10:05 < JonRob> i think this layout works well
10:05 < JonRob> with a ToC
10:05 < couf> JonRob: +1
10:06 < McGiwer> yep, if it's very small
10:06 < McGiwer> :)
10:06 < McGiwer> hmm, brb
10:06 < McGiwer> i have guests
10:06 < McGiwer> :|
10:06 < McGiwer> brb
10:06 < quaid> ok, we can try the list format
10:06 < quaid> it is friendlier
10:06 < JonRob> quaid: sounding enthusiastic!
10:09 < jmbuser> quaid: +1
10:09 < McGiwer> ok, re
10:10 < couf> so what is "Easy"?
10:10 * quaid finishes brushing a little girl's hair
10:10 < quaid> yeah, what is easy
10:11 < quaid> I'm thinking that once we have the right structure, it becomes more obvious what goes where
10:11 < couf> wiki = easy, xml = challenging
10:11 < jmbuser> couf: +1
10:11 < quaid> only if you don't know XML already
10:11 < quaid> actually
10:11 < couf> true that
10:11 < quaid> I think XML is easier for those who know XHTML than a Wiki can be :)
10:12 < quaid> brb, one minute
10:12 < couf> heh, that's a sweeter approach
10:12 < couf> although, that would mean learning CVS for some, which could be a challenge
10:12 < jmbuser> GUI-oriented people like the wiki, CLI-oriented people (AKA developers) like XML
10:13 < JonRob> is there a huge difference between wiki and xml!? besides cvs
10:14 < couf> JonRob: xml is more like xhtml like quaid mentioned above, a bit more formal
10:14 < JonRob> (this is something i'd like to learn at some point :D)
10:15 < couf> the wiki is just text which gets parsed
10:15 < JonRob> couf: thanks
10:15 < couf> JonRob: please do, the more people who know XML, the better :-)
10:15 < jmbuser> XML is good in that it can be used to create many different formats from the same source
10:16 < JonRob> what scares me off it at the min is cvs i think
10:16 < JonRob> and messing up docs!
10:16 < quaid> cvs is easy, if you are worried, use a GUI CVS client :)
10:16 < JonRob> (sorry for distracting the convo, can talk about this another time!)
10:16 < quaid> no, it's poignant, actually
10:16 < jmbuser> Think of cvs as check-in and check-out of docs
10:16 < couf> JonRob: the messing up part is where cvs is so usefull
10:17 < quaid> what is "Easy"?
10:17 < quaid> we cater to the idea that Wiki == easier
10:17 < quaid> and we'll organize around that principle
10:17 < quaid> but it is not necc. true :)
10:17 < couf> aye
10:18 < quaid> ok, so the only decisions is ...
10:18 * quaid writes the two options:
10:18 < quaid> 1. organize by challenge level (easy, hard), then within that have categories (writing, editing, etc.)
10:18 < quaid> 2. organize by category, then within that by challenge level
10:19 < couf> 1st approach seems better, if one wants to do something, one will want to do say something easy
10:19 < couf> not have to dive into "writer" vs "editor"
10:20 < quaid> I think I agree because I think people think of themselves as part of a multiple role, not just one role
10:20 < couf> at first glance
10:20 < JonRob> some people might consider themselves great writers tho, but terrible editors
10:20 < quaid> "sure I develop, i also test, release, etc.)
10:20 < JonRob> so if they went to writer, they might take on a harder task then normally
10:20 < couf> quaid: +1
10:20 < quaid> "so if they want to writer" he heh
10:20 * quaid pokes fun at JonRob
10:20 < JonRob> ooops
10:22 < couf> btw, we should let go of the "open" - "assinged" distinction
10:22 < couf> let people get into a task that is already assinged
10:22 < JonRob> couf +1
10:22 < couf> s/assinged/assigned
10:23 < couf> (twice)
10:24 < couf> We do need one hitman per task
10:24 < quaid> ok
10:24 < McGiwer> ok, guys
10:24 < McGiwer> i'll read the log later
10:25 < McGiwer> i gotta go
10:25 < McGiwer> i'll send my ideas to the list
10:25 < McGiwer> bye
10:25 < quaid> we're done I thnk
10:25 < McGiwer> ahm, ok
10:25 < McGiwer> :)
10:25 < McGiwer> so bfj
10:25 < McGiwer> bfn
10:25 < McGiwer> ;)
10:25 < quaid> we'll org by difficulty, drop the open/assigned distirnction
10:25 < quaid> and do some light categorization but not so as to scare people off
10:25 < quaid> like "Skills used in this task" "Writing, editing, research"
10:26 < couf> +1
10:27 < couf> note to all (including myself): the hitmen on the task should *not* be only quaid and stickster
10:28 < quaid> heh
10:29 < quaid> that's just cruft from old lists, we'll leave those more open
10:29 < quaid> ok, that should do it
10:29 < quaid> I'll work on that list that way, see where it takes us
10:29 < quaid> since it is just couf and JonRob and I left ...
10:29 < quaid> anything else?
10:30 < JonRob> not that i know off
10:30 < JonRob> didn't notice everyone else leaving!
10:30 < couf> who's publishing the relnotes, I might have missed that?
10:32 < quaid> oh, hmm
10:32 < quaid> unfortunately the list of who can is quite small, not by design
10:32 * quaid wonders if there is time to update the CSS for docs.fp.o
10:33 < JonRob> quaid: what does that involve? i can do css if it helps
10:33 < quaid> JonRob: yes, that mainly
10:33 < quaid> JonRob: are you on #fedora-admin?
10:33 < JonRob> nope
10:34 < quaid> I was just asking riczho, who worked on the CSS for the new front page, if he thought it was possible
10:34 < quaid> we'd want to work with him to make it happen faster
10:34 < quaid> that said, we can update the CSS anytime we want :)
10:34 < JonRob> would be cool to have it in place for f7
10:34 < couf> yeah, but timing is quite short
10:34 < JonRob> mm...4 days?
10:34 < quaid> couf: probably stickster will do it, just because it is faster and easier to do it ourselves than to teach a deprecated publishing system :)
10:35 < quaid> the problem is the static v. SSI, I think
10:35 < couf> quaid: sure, just wondering
10:35 < quaid> docs.fp.o is all PHP SSI built, where the other is static
10:35 < quaid> ok, closing meeting
10:35 < quaid> 5
10:35 < quaid> 4
10:35 < quaid> 3
10:35 < quaid> 2
10:35 < quaid> 1
10:35 < quaid> </meeting>
The agenda is updated, maybe more to come?
Although it's last on the list, the most important thing I think we are
doing is the task list.
We need to:
* Get it updated with *all* tasks
* Find a way to present it better than a HUGE AND SCARY TABLLLLLLEEE!!
* Order by difficulty (maybe separate tables by complexity? by task
(guide, tool, etc.)?
* Consider what we want to get busy with between releases, with our
scant breathing room
It is a holiday weekend in the US, so don't expect to see the US-based
folks. :) I'll be there, though, since my major plan on any Sunday
morning at 1600 UTC is to listen to Car Talk (http://cartalk.com/). :)
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some time ago I've written some note about the needed steps of the
creation of a localzide KDE-LiveCD:
Maybe this is worth to be included in the *docs* part of fp.o. But
before this it should be polished a little bit.
Feel free to edit the page directly. And I'm also happy for some
comments (or questions).
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We need to populate this page:
An important goal of that page is to be where we send new contributors
looking for something to take on. To that end, you'll notice that
unassigned tasks have a column for "Mentor". This person would help a
new contributor to be successful with the task.
If you know of any task that needs doing, make sure it gets on that
If it requires many sub-tasks that can be modularized, consider creating
a sub-space for it, such as, DocsProject/Tasks/FooGuide. In that
sub-space, list out all the detailed tasks. This helps to organize by
project, and keep the DP/Tasks from getting too crowded.
When we have something more to look at/work from there, we can link the
page in directly from DocsProject/Join and DocsProject itself.
Karsten Wade, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project
Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProjectquaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41
I'm not familiar with your process of the web-based release notes. But
I've written down some notes about bugs or issues with the KDE-LiveCD
(section "Release Notes"):
Of course they must be polished and my english is quite bad. And I'm
also not shure if they are worth to mentioned? This is up to you.
The board has sent a list of suggested names for Fedora 7 to our legal
department, and they have responded with the names that have passed preliminary
Please vote for your favorite choice at:
The choices are 'Lee', 'Sherman', 'Nothing', 'Cylon', 'Moonshine', 'Siegfried'.
You will need to log in with your Fedora account system user/password. Voting
will be open until 2007-05-25 00:00:00 UTC. Thanks to Toshio Kuratomi for
getting this set up.
We apologize for the short voting timeframe - final legal approval can take
up to five days, and we'd really like to avoid slipping solely for the name
of the release. If there end up being legal issues with the name selected, the
Board will decide on the name. (Who knows, could end up being Zod 2: Electric