FDSCo Meeting 2008-08-20 Summary
by Karsten Wade
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Attendees:
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quaid
ke4qqq
kishan
Summary:
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1. Beta one sheet must be ready by 01 September
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Beta/ReleaseNotes
HELP -- someone in Docs to write the Beta release announcement
HELP -- tell everyone you know :) that the Beta relnotes needs their content
* Blog posts
* IRC/f2f
* mailing lists
Beta gets higher attention levels
* What do you want tested?
* What works?
* What is broken?
* How to work around stuff
* etc.
Some pointers: http://iquaid.org/2008/07/21/lets-talk-about-release-notes-shall-we/
2. Then we worked on the summary and tasks from last week
Dave (ke4qqq) worked on Help:Wiki_structure.
Karsten (quaid) worked on tasks, summaries, and IRC logs.
14 years, 3 months
FDSCo Meeting 2008-08-20 IRC log
by Karsten Wade
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In wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Docs_IRC_log_20080820
12:02 < quaid> <meeting role="off-channel_start">
12:03 * ke4qqq is here
12:03 < quaid> moi aussi
12:04 * ke4qqq introduces kishan
12:04 < ke4qqq> say hi kishan
12:06 < quaid> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings#Age...
12:06 < zodbot> <http://tinyurl.com/6e4vhe> (at fedoraproject.org)
12:06 * quaid fixes the date on there :)
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12:08 < quaid> ok, so ...
12:08 < quaid> actually, maybe we want to hit the easy thing first
12:08 < quaid> the beta notes
12:08 < kishan> hello...
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12:09 < quaid> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Beta/ReleaseNotes
12:09 < zodbot> <http://tinyurl.com/6q77rt> (at fedoraproject.org)
12:09 < quaid> tasks from there are:
12:09 < quaid> 1. draft a Beta release announcement (anyone in Docs)
12:10 < quaid> 2. make sure that the Beta one-sheet is getting even *more* love from developers, packagers, artists, etc.
12:10 * quaid looks for current due date
12:10 < quaid> 02 Sep
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12:10 < quaid> is the Beta release currently
12:11 < quaid> so that means we want it ready by 01 Sep at the latest
12:11 < quaid> ~15 days
12:12 * ke4qqq is behind on his beat
12:12 < quaid> Action: Everyone -- talk about the Beta one-sheet to other's in the project, esp. beats you are writing
12:12 < quaid> -- blog posts
12:12 < quaid> -- email to lists
12:12 < quaid> -- IRC/f2f
12:12 < ke4qqq> what's the one sheet?? sorry for the ignorance...
12:12 < quaid> ke4qqq: there is an explanation somewhere, but the short of it is
12:13 < quaid> Alpha and Beta release notes are a one-page on the wiki
12:13 < quaid> we used to do a full XML and trans, and it was really wasted time
12:13 < quaid> our first Beta => XML is for RC1
12:13 < quaid> which then includes time for trans, so the trans gets an RC treatment
12:14 < ke4qqq> ahhh ok - so one sheet is english only? - what are we supposed to talk up?
12:14 < quaid> that people need to add their stuff to that page
12:14 < quaid> what do they want tested?
12:14 < quaid> what is working? what isn't?
12:14 < quaid> etc.
12:14 < ke4qqq> ahhh ok
12:15 < quaid> http://iquaid.org/2008/07/21/lets-talk-about-release-notes-shall-we/
12:15 < zodbot> <http://tinyurl.com/58fh9w> (at iquaid.org)
12:15 < quaid> that's a fair explanation
12:16 < quaid> any other questions? or thoughts on this topic?
12:16 < ke4qqq> none from me
12:19 < quaid> ok then!
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12:19 < quaid> looks like #fedora-meeting is open
12:19 < quaid> let's move the next topic over there
12:20 < quaid> </meeting role="jump-channel">
12:20 -!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Documentation : catching up on past weeks meeting summary and tasks
12:21 < quaid> Catch up on minutes/summary from previous weeks
12:21 < quaid> * What's going on in the world? * Are all tasks written down?
12:21 -!- John5342_Away is now known as John5342
12:22 < quaid> so I'm looking over the previous few weeks of meetings ..
12:26 < quaid> ok, so it's just last week's missing
12:26 < quaid> what I'm going to do now is:
12:26 < quaid> leave the channel open for discussion
12:26 < quaid> while I post the IRC log and review it for tasks
12:26 < quaid> which was primarily talking about wiki naming
12:27 * ke4qqq wonders if wiki naming as ever codified based on those decisions
12:27 < ke4qqq> as in on the wiki
12:28 < quaid> it wasn't :)
12:28 < quaid> but it's not far
12:28 < quaid> the Help:Wiki_structure page just needs clearing
12:28 < quaid> ke4qqq: do you want to hit that page and see if you can get it to sync with last week's decision?
12:29 < ke4qqq> sure I can do that
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12:36 < quaid> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Docs_IRC_log_20080813
12:36 < zodbot> <http://tinyurl.com/6g7mzh> (at fedoraproject.org)
12:38 < quaid> oops, I didn't add in the bottom on that
12:38 * quaid re-does
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12:41 < quaid> ok, that's complete now
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12:49 * ke4qqq sense relatively slow meeting
12:52 < quaid> aye
12:52 < ke4qqq> so on the assumption that this is still open discussion time -
12:52 < ke4qqq> oops
12:52 < quaid> oh, go ahead
12:52 < quaid> sometimes it's slow, sometimes not ... good chance to do some work -in-meeting to catch up
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12:53 < ke4qqq> kishan - one of the things that needs to be done still is confirming the accuracy of the stuff in the UG - ie that the directions are all correct.
12:53 < quaid> ke4qqq: we didn't address Example_wiki_page last week, do you want to talk about it today?
12:53 < ke4qqq> we can do that
12:55 < quaid> I like the concept; we can draw all kinds of use cases from Help:Wiki_editing
12:56 < ke4qqq> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Example_wiki_page - thus far no one has edited the page or changed anything - stickster did comment on my lack of finishing a paragraph
12:57 < ke4qqq> regarding the page naming issue
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12:59 < quaid> ok, I hadn't looked at that page directly before, sry
12:59 < ke4qqq> np
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12:59 < quaid> how about a link and explanation at that top that it is not supposed to show _how_ wiki markup works, or what formatting to use
12:59 < quaid> then link to the appropriate Help: pages?
13:00 < quaid> i.e., opposite of where I said to draw examples; don't bother to repeat content, just link to it :)
13:00 * quaid can do that edit, just checking the idea
13:00 < ke4qqq> patches welcome :) but that's a good idea.
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13:03 * quaid sends last week summary and goes to edit
13:03 < quaid> ok, we can finish here then
13:03 < quaid> last two items:
13:03 < quaid> ACTION: quaid sends email to list to get help with Packaging_guidelines
13:03 < quaid> ACTION: quaid to send summary of today :D
13:03 < quaid> finito!
13:03 < quaid> any more, #fedora-docs as usual
13:03 < quaid> </meeting>
14 years, 3 months
FDSCo Meeting 2008-08-13 Summary
by Karsten Wade
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Attendees:
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* quaid
* couf
* ke4qqq
* stickster
* jsmith
* wonderer1
Summary:
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* Resolved Help:Wiki_structure discussion around page naming
** Project pages are in a single-nested structure, then flat inside of that nesting
*** FooProject/Bar/Baz => FooProject/Bar_baz
**** Not just adding spaces but making pages have a plain language name
** End-user pages have zero nesting
*** Docs/User_Guide => User_Guide
**** Use Category:Documentation or Category:Draft_Documentation instead of Docs/{Drafts}
14 years, 3 months
FDSCo Meeting 2008-08-13 IRC log
by Karsten Wade
On the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Docs_IRC_log_20080813
12:04 < quaid> <meeting>
12:04 < quaid> :)
12:04 < quaid> no, I got lost and never made it to the agenda this morning
12:04 < quaid> it's essentially the same
12:05 < quaid> I was hoping ianweller_afk and G might be here, but I think their thuoghts are well known
12:05 < quaid> about wiki page naming
12:05 < quaid> but I think we need a compromise, I think I know what it has to be, and it is not that great but not terrible.
12:05 < couf> G is on IRC-break
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12:06 < quaid> couf: as an action to protect his life and sanity? or just AFK?
12:06 < couf> the former
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12:07 < quaid> ok
12:07 < quaid> well, like I said, opinion known, etc. :)
12:09 < quaid> ok, so here's my agenda, any additions?
12:09 < quaid> 1. finish wiki page naming
12:09 < quaid> 2. scope package guidelines changes
12:09 < couf> I'm is totally out the loop, but I guess you guys made some good arguments and can make a good decision about it
12:09 < quaid> 3. double-check on release deadlines
12:10 < quaid> 4. ??
12:10 < quaid> couf: 17 < quaid> overholt: can you refresh me on what came from talks with JPackage and Fedora?
12:10 < quaid> ...
12:10 < quaid> sorry, bad paste
12:10 < quaid> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help_talk:Wiki_Structure
12:10 < quaid> couf: that's the discussion we had, worth a catch up on
12:11 < quaid> ok, if we have any other agenda items ...
12:11 < couf> quaid: thanks
12:11 < ke4qqq> quaid can we add Example_wiki_page to the agenda
12:12 < quaid> ke4qqq: thx
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12:15 * stickster gets off phone with mgr
12:15 < couf> we can move to -meeting if we want to
12:16 < stickster> yeah, what couf said ^^
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12:18 < quaid> </meeting action="move_to_-meeting">
12:18 < quaid> <meeting>
12:18 -!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Docs : Wiki page naming
12:18 < quaid> ok, figuring couf has caught up a bit
12:18 < quaid> I have to admit I've waffled again :)
12:19 < quaid> because the compromise position is different from the hardline MediaWiki one
12:19 < quaid> so I'm back to this:
12:20 < quaid> 1. Foo_Project/ and Foo_SIG/ effectively separate contributor-focused content, by subject areas, away from end-user content
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12:20 < quaid> 2. Help_with_Foo is the best way to do *all* end-user focused content; all such content can be moved from e.g. SELinux/FAQ to FAQ_for_SELinux
12:21 < quaid> 3. Then we move all meeting stuff to Meeting:, archive stuff to Archive:, all without changing any other part of the name
12:21 < quaid> the controversy is around 1.
12:21 < quaid> here are my reasons why I think that has to be the compromise:
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12:21 < quaid> * it's too hard to explain why a massive change of everything to people who *like* stuff organized by Nested/Folders
12:22 < quaid> * People will get the need to have Real_named_documents, due to search, readibility, etc.
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12:22 * jsmith realizes the time and sneaks in
12:22 < quaid> * We can likely convince people to accept moving names _within_ the Foo_Project/ space
12:22 * quaid pm's the status to jsmith
12:23 < quaid> * Since contributors like, are used to, and don't care much about changing from nesting (all guessed by me without a single poll!), why make them move?
12:24 < quaid> * Don't make the Foo_Project nesting a requirement either way, let people do it themselves
12:24 < quaid> * We give clear guidelines on how to clean up what is there and how to name in the future
12:24 < quaid> <eolist><eof>
12:24 < quaid> thoughts?
12:24 * ke4qqq respectfully disagrees
12:24 < quaid> yay!
12:24 < quaid> go ahead
12:25 < ke4qqq> thinks single guide to doing it is best.....do it nested or plaintext
12:25 < ke4qqq> plaintext is better for searching
12:25 < quaid> the / doesn't get in the way
12:25 < ke4qqq> pain is no worse for doing some renaming as it is to doing all renaming
12:25 < quaid> it's treated by the search tool as a space
12:25 < ke4qqq> does google agree with that though?
12:25 < ke4qqq> does google treat it as a space?
12:26 < quaid> how do we test that?
12:26 < quaid> I mean, I google for "live usb how to" and the right page turns up
12:26 < quaid> and it has zero spaces, it's all nested CamelCase
12:26 < ke4qqq> hmmm what do I know then
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12:26 < jsmith> Yes, I think Google does the right thing
12:26 < quaid> ke4qqq: you are right that ambiguity on our part is lame
12:26 < quaid> "
12:26 < quaid> Nest or not, who cares?"
12:26 < quaid> we should guide people to not nest
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12:27 < quaid> but tell them they can change it or not, it's up to them, just get the damn sub_pages renamed so they can be found
12:27 < ke4qqq> we just need to pick out one
12:27 < quaid> DocsProject
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12:27 < quaid> SIGs/Font was already done by nim-nim
12:28 < quaid> there is a lot of inertia in the nesting, unless we are prepared to do it all ourselves, we are in the position of convincing others of what is best
12:28 < quaid> and there is a lot of legacy
12:29 < jsmith> We can't force others to do the right thing... all we can do is explain correct principles in such a way that they want to do the right thing
12:29 < jsmith> I think it's a matter of explaining why what they're used to is a bad idea
12:29 < ke4qqq> so if searching isn't the reason - why not use nested?
12:30 < jsmith> I thought searching was the reason
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12:30 * ke4qqq is confused
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12:30 < quaid> ke4qqq: the nesting would all have to be single words
12:30 < quaid> this would work though, in terms of MW search:
12:31 < quaid> Foo_Project/Tool_docs/Doc_about_something
12:31 < quaid> it's not natural language, but it would turn up for searches on "Tool" "
12:31 < quaid> "something" and "foo"
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12:33 < couf> fwiw I'm +1 with quaid's compromise
12:34 < quaid> jsmith: I'm not convinced we can explain the "why" well enough to get a higher rate of compliance, if the "what" involves completely renaming every single page
12:34 < quaid> if the "what" is, "Do this now to make your stuff findable, do this in the future to make it good, here is the best and recommended way," then I think the why goes over better.
12:34 < couf> renaming every page is just overkill and loss of manpower
12:35 < quaid> couf: and if it's really worth it, it will happen for most pages over time anyway
12:35 < couf> true
12:38 < jsmith> quaid: I hate to even ask this out loud, but if we can't explain the "why" well enough, then why are we wasting our time?
12:38 < ke4qqq> has to admit that is a question I was asking myself
12:38 < quaid> now now
12:38 < jsmith> Playing devil's advocate here for a second -- don't get upset at me :-)
12:39 < quaid> two main reasons:
12:39 < quaid> * we need natural language with spaces to get search to be useful
12:39 < quaid> * we need natural language for sane translation
12:39 < quaid> sane(r) trans, anyway
12:39 < jsmith> OK, I'm perfectly happy with those reasons.
12:39 < quaid> i.e., nesting and idioms don't mix well
12:40 < jsmith> But you don't think we can articulate those reasons in such a way that people will want to do the right thing with regards to wiki naming?
12:40 < quaid> so, our "why" covers that but does not fully justify the removing of the single-level of nesting
12:41 * quaid notes search results are a bit funky with Foo_Project all grouped together, but the quality of that is a matter of taste.
12:41 < ke4qqq> those are satisfactory reasons but if they are good enough to remove most nesting why not all.
12:41 < quaid> there are some reasonable arguments in favor of a single-level of nesting
12:42 < quaid> it gets us a sorting of content by contributor interest area without using the more restrictive Namespace: trick in MW
12:42 < quaid> Namespace: moves it outside of the default search
12:42 < quaid> this all stems from having two audiences, IMO
12:43 < quaid> and it being confusing to either audience to find e.g. end-user docs in the contributor search results
12:44 * stickster is assuming all bets are off in the User: namespace
12:45 < quaid> yep
12:46 < quaid> in fact, that's something we do want to specify; use that area at will
12:48 < stickster> Discussion seems to have petered out.
12:48 < stickster> Has a decision been taken then?
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12:48 < stickster> Is wiki naming put to bed now?
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12:49 * ke4qqq didn't see a decision
12:50 < wonderer1> so what are so far the naming conventions? if users did not do their own user. name naming...
12:50 * couf hopes to put it to bed
12:51 * ke4qqq is fine with decision by fiat
12:51 < wonderer1> for me it works fine. just want to know befor I start with orphaned pages and so on...
12:51 < stickster> quaid: Can you summarize the final decision on how we're going to do this?
12:53 < quaid> hmm
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12:53 < quaid> I think it's basically on Help:Wiki_Naming (a name that doesn't quite follow the directions)
12:54 < quaid> I can do a final write up there
12:54 < wonderer1> sounds good
12:54 < quaid> but before I say "this is the decision"
12:54 < quaid> are we in fact decided?
12:54 < quaid> the objections that ke4qqq brings up are the same ones I hear in other places,
12:55 < stickster> Let's make this clear.
12:55 < quaid> so this is what I would like to do:
12:55 < quaid> * Write up a decision to vote up or down on the mailing list
12:55 < quaid> * invite discussion
12:56 * jsmith wonders if he haven't already had enough discussion (how many weeks has this been on the agenda?)
12:56 < stickster> Wait, haven't we had that before?
12:56 * ke4qqq disagrees - we've tried discussion (me once, ian once, and quaid once) and none ensued
12:56 < quaid> * see if we can get a good "why" page from that discussion as a reason behind the "what" in Help:Wiki_structure
12:56 < quaid> hmm
12:56 < jsmith> I say we vote here, now, and then work to get a good "why" page up
12:56 * couf needs to run, sorry folks
12:57 < quaid> fine
12:57 < stickster> couf: Please vote later by email if desired
12:57 < ke4qqq> jsmith: +1
12:57 < couf> stickster: will do
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12:57 * jsmith would rather get flamed for a quick vote than see this drag on for another month
12:57 < stickster> jsmith: +1
12:58 < quaid> +1 or -1 to: Do we permit _Project and _SIG content to remain under a single nesting?
12:58 < couf> +1
12:58 < stickster> +1
12:58 < jsmith> I have no problem with single nesting personally
12:58 < jsmith> +1
12:58 < wonderer1> +1
12:58 < ke4qqq> +1
12:58 < quaid> I'm +1, fwiw
12:58 < stickster> yay!
12:58 < quaid> ok, then we have ianweller_afk outvoted anyway :)
12:58 < quaid> note: permit, not encourage :)
12:59 < couf> +1 :)
12:59 < stickster> +1 again.
12:59 < quaid> everyone watch that page
12:59 < quaid> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_structure
12:59 * couf really runs
12:59 < quaid> and I'll write up the final version
13:00 < quaid> unless someone else feels it is clear to them and wants to do it :)
13:00 * jsmith makes a motion to propose that quaid do it
13:01 * stickster +1's jsmith and then slaps him
13:01 < quaid> time's up anyway
13:01 < quaid> I'll do it
13:01 < quaid> anything more, see you on #fedora-docs
13:01 < quaid> </meeting>
14 years, 3 months
Week 34 - Fedora Deployment Guide
by Michael Hideo Smith
Last Week:
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+ Content Migrated to fedorahosted svn
+ Removed "moreinfo=none"
+ Fixed around 30 broken xrefs
+ 50% fixed entities
+ Compiles cleanly with Fedora brand!
This Week:
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+ Fix account
+ Fix remaining entities
+ Remove crufty images
14 years, 3 months
[Fwd: [Ambassadors] fedora-fr meeting report]
by Paul W. Frields
-------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Max Spevack <mspevack(a)redhat.com>
> Reply-To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com
> To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com
> Subject: [Ambassadors] fedora-fr meeting report
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:23:38 +0200 (CEST)
>
> I spent a great day on Saturday August 2nd with a large number of our
> French contributors, ambassadors, and community leaders. We had a
> 12-person meeting/discussion for about 5 hours and then met up with
> another 8 folks for dinner.
>
> In no particular order, here are my notes:
[...snip...]
> * The Fedora-fr website contains forums (15,000 registered users), a
> Mediawiki instance with almost 300 pages of documentation (in which
> French is the canonical language), and a French-only planet (which has a
> fair amount of cross-pollenation with Planet Fedora). I think it would
> be interesting to have some of the Fedora Docs Project guys take a look
> at what the French team has built up, and see if there are any quick
> wins that we can achieve in a information/toolchain sharing point of
> view.
This would be worth looking into -- maybe couf can play point on this?
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14 years, 3 months
Beta one-sheet
by Paul W. Frields
James Laska drafted a Beta release notes one-sheet page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Beta/ReleaseNotes
This is the page that should be updated with new content for the
upcoming Fedora 10 Beta release. As with the Alpha, it is permitted to
be more of a "living page" that can note issues even following the
actual release time and date.
Developers should include information on areas that are important for
community testing! The Beta receives much wider notice and use than the
Alpha and more thorough testing can lead to a better final release
There is currently an area set aside at the end of the notes for known
issues and problems. If for some reason it needs to be moved, it will
be replaced by links to a similar tracking page.
If someone on the team could draft an announcement for
fedora-devel-announce and elsewhere, that would be great. I'm currently
in "scribble email as fast as possible" mode because of another
urgency! :-)
Paul
14 years, 3 months
