We need to get the beta announcement out and really needs some love. If you
can, take a peek at the (very) rough draft at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_Beta_Announcement and bleed on it.
Better yet, stop by on IRC tomorrow and lets bounce thoughts around.
On 10/17/2009 09:21 PM, Kirk Charles wrote:
> I have found an error in the following page for windows users
> It seems that the current checksum method is SHA 256. Only hashcalc can
> do this.
> The other 2 recommended programs will not do this.
> It took me quite awhile to figure this out.
> Also it would be good to elaborate on how and where to find the sums to
> check against
> and to remind users
> to be sure to use the correct calculation method.
Already reported in Bugzilla. Hopefully someone in the docs team will
fix this soon.
Hello docs team,
My name is Adam Miller and I am one of the contributors who works
on the Fedora Xfce Spin and I'm currently working on our new spin wiki
page with all the info needed for the new Spin Pages that the design
team is working on, I'm no writer so I was hoping someone might lend a
bit of their talent towards cleaning up our "spin description" and
"download tab" entries, we (Kevin, Christoph and myself ... all
listed on the wiki page) just feel that what we want to say is being
said, but that its a tad "rough around the edges" and Kevin suggested
I come to the doc team and request their expertise, so I went to the
#fedora-docs irc channel and was directed to the mailing list, so here
I am :)
Many thanks in advance!
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00:01:25 <Sparks> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda:
00:01:25 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 15 00:01:25 2009 UTC. The
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00:01:34 <Sparks> #topic Roll Call
00:01:38 * Sparks
00:01:56 * ke4qqq
00:01:57 * joat .
00:01:59 * jjmcd .
00:02:15 * joat thinks Spark's calendar is just as busted as his
00:03:08 <Sparks> Good group so far
00:03:23 <Sparks> joat: My calendar is all messed up now that I'm doing an ST&E
00:03:42 * ke4qqq is in and out
00:04:00 <joat> Sparks: I'm still sans-calendar
00:04:05 <joat> waiting for account
00:04:11 * radsy shuffles in
00:04:21 * rudi is here
00:05:05 <Sparks> Okay, let's get started
00:05:22 <Sparks> #topic Beta Release Announcement
00:05:29 <Sparks> jjmcd: Go ahead, I think you added this
00:05:58 <jjmcd> Well, its no surprise, is it. We need to get working
on the release announcement
00:06:22 <jjmcd> Isn't the updated GA like a week away? Not sure the exact date
00:06:56 <jjmcd> 20th?
00:06:58 <Sparks> jjmcd: I honestly haven't had a chance to look at my
calendar in days
00:07:11 <jjmcd> hehe - yeah, I know what you mean
00:07:18 <rudi> November 17, I thought?
00:07:30 <jjmcd> SRI - i meant beta
00:08:07 <jjmcd> Beta is almost upon us and we need to do the
announcement. Not a really big deal, tho, not like GA
00:08:34 <Sparks> Can we just take Alpha and just change it to Beta?
00:08:43 <jjmcd> Pretty much
00:09:00 <Sparks> volunteers?
00:09:26 <jjmcd> I can do some with someone to bounce thoughts off
00:09:49 <jjmcd> preferably someone who doesn't live upside-down
00:10:09 * Sparks is living upside-down in Virginia!
00:10:33 <jjmcd> All these upside down guys sleep when I'm awake!
00:11:03 <jjmcd> I haven't seen Zach in a while, I'd twist his arm
00:11:54 <Sparks> jjmcd: Okay, maybe put something out on the list?
00:12:08 <jjmcd> Yeah, maybe poke a few folks
00:12:53 <Sparks> Okay... anything else on this topic?
00:13:28 <Sparks> #topic f-r-n.rpm
00:13:36 <Sparks> jjmcd: Okay, what's up with this?
00:13:44 <jjmcd> OK, mostly by way of a heads-up
00:13:59 <jjmcd> Our schedule had us doing the beta rpm last tuesday
00:14:17 <Sparks> and did "we"?
00:14:17 <jjmcd> With the schedule slip, I translated that to
yesterday to get the max transations
00:14:33 <jjmcd> Turns out, it needed to be done about 4 weeks ago to
make it into beta
00:14:40 <Sparks> ?!?
00:14:49 <jjmcd> Yeah, that's about what I said
00:15:02 <Sparks> How did that all work? That doesn't make sense.
00:15:08 <jjmcd> So, no f-r-n.rpm in beta
00:15:46 <jjmcd> Not sure. A lot changed between the time the
schedule came out and when we talked with john and l10n to set it up
00:16:00 <ke4qqq> have we followed up with poelcat to make sure our
schedule reflects proper date
00:16:02 <jjmcd> but also, we weren't paying close attention to the freezes
00:16:05 <ke4qqq> for next release
00:16:34 <jjmcd> Yes, that was an action item from the meeting, plus,
I've been talking with Jesse to better understand the whole process
00:16:51 <jjmcd> Which I've mostly been ignoring, sor of do whaterver
the sked says
00:17:29 <jjmcd> Bottom line, tho, I think is that we really need to
own this. Having Jesse and Paul as owners makes us too disconnected
00:18:25 <jjmcd> Thats what I have. Other questions?
00:19:10 <ke4qqq> what do you mean by "having us own this"
00:19:40 <jjmcd> Release notes are owned by paul and jesse, so we
can't, for example, submit a koji
00:19:56 <Sparks> jjmcd: I think you should be an owner
00:20:02 <Sparks> jjmcd: In addition to others as well
00:20:10 <ke4qqq> ahhh cvs perms
00:20:12 <jjmcd> But first I need to better understand the whole process
00:20:30 <jjmcd> I can make a RPM just fine, but I have little concept
of what happens after that
00:20:42 <jjmcd> In the past I've just handed it to Jesse and magic happens
00:21:10 <Sparks> jjmcd: It isn't that difficult to get it through.
Heck, I've even done it.
00:21:18 <jjmcd> I'm sure it isn't
00:21:30 <jjmcd> Just need the map
00:21:46 <Sparks> heck, if you can do git, svn, and cvn, then you are golden!
00:21:59 <Sparks> jjmcd: I think it's on the wiki... I'll see if I
can find it for you
00:22:22 <jjmcd> Seems like I found it, and I felt like it had some
holes but that was a while ago
00:22:51 <Sparks> Okay...
00:23:03 <Sparks> anything else on this topic?
00:24:07 <Sparks> #topic Status on CMS (Zikula)
00:24:23 <Sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status
00:24:41 <Sparks> Any update on this?
00:25:52 <Sparks> Anyone?
00:26:50 <Sparks> Okay then...
00:26:55 <Sparks> #topic Status on CC license rollout.
00:27:04 <Sparks> #link
00:27:17 <Sparks> I can't remember if I sent out the message to the
list or not, now...
00:27:52 <rudi> Will start rebuilding F11 and F12 guides RSN
00:27:53 <Sparks> But for those that are onboard, can you modify your
license pages using the new publican-fedora brand and redo your
uploads to docs.fp.o?
00:28:10 <Sparks> I'd like to have everything changed over by next Wednesday.
00:29:35 <jjmcd> hehe - I didn't notice, but the RN's for L10N all say CC-BY-SA
00:29:43 <Sparks> Cool!
00:29:43 <Sparks> :)
00:29:54 <jjmcd> Except for Chinese which hasn't run in a while
00:30:15 <rudi> Sparks -- will do :)
00:30:49 <Sparks> Ya
00:30:51 <Sparks> rudi: Cool
00:30:56 <Sparks> Okay, anything else on this?
00:31:18 <jjmcd> Is the Pravne odrdbe supposed to be always english?
00:31:37 <Sparks> is the who?
00:31:56 <jjmcd> Legal Notice
00:32:10 <jjmcd> It is in English for all langs, although it's title isn't
00:32:29 <Sparks> Yes
00:32:51 <Sparks> We aren't supposed to translate the legal notice as
it might loose something in translation
00:33:10 <jjmcd> Makes sense
00:33:30 <rudi> jjmcd -- the title should be localised, the text should not
00:33:40 <jjmcd> ANd that is the case
00:34:02 <rudi> If you see a language where the title isn't localised,
it's because the string "legal notice" is missing from the
docbooks-locale file currently in Fedora
00:34:31 <jjmcd> I see assamese isn't
00:34:52 <rudi> There is currently no stylesheet for Assamese at all,
00:35:00 <rudi> I'm working on that with the DocBook community
00:36:13 <Sparks> Okay, anything else on this topic?
00:36:46 <Sparks> #topic Shared open-source style guide
00:36:55 <Sparks> #link
00:37:01 <Sparks> Does anyone have any updates on this?
00:38:42 * Sparks hears crickets chirping
00:38:53 <Sparks> Okay, moving on.
00:39:00 <Sparks> #topic Guide needs?
00:39:06 <Sparks> Any guides have any needs?
00:40:02 <Sparks> #topic New Guides
00:40:08 <Sparks> Any new guides on the horizon?
00:41:34 <Sparks> #topic Other business
00:41:38 <Sparks> Anyone have anything else?
00:42:32 <Sparks> Anything at all?
00:42:43 <rudi> me
00:43:08 <rudi> Just an update that Publican 1.0 is very near now --
should be finished within days
00:43:19 <rudi> But it won't be in Fedora any time soon
00:43:25 <jjmcd> whew
00:43:32 <Sparks> rudi: No?
00:43:48 <rudi> Because we've been waiting weeks for dependencies get approved
00:44:14 <rudi> At this rate, it actually looks like Publican 1.0 will
be in *Debian* before it gets into Fedora...
00:44:20 <Sparks> Ugh
00:44:21 <rudi> (I'm not exaggerating...)
00:46:51 <Sparks> Okay... Well, I don't know.
00:47:49 <Sparks> Anyone have anything else?
00:49:00 <Sparks> 5
00:49:02 <Sparks> 4
00:49:05 <Sparks> 3
00:49:07 <Sparks> 2
00:49:10 <Sparks> 1
00:49:15 <Sparks> Thanks everyone for coming!
00:49:19 <Sparks> #endmeeting
I saw this snippet in yesterday's meeting log:
<jjmcd> [20:19] Release notes are owned by paul and jesse, so we
can't, for example, submit a koji
<Sparks> [20:19] jjmcd: I think you should be an owner
[20:20] jjmcd: In addition to others as well
<ke4qqq> [20:20] ahhh cvs perms
<jjmcd> [20:20] But first I need to better understand the whole
[20:20] I can make a RPM just fine, but I have little concept
of what happens after that
[20:20] In the past I've just handed it to Jesse and magic
<Sparks> [20:21] jjmcd: It isn't that difficult to get it
through. Heck, I've even done it.
<jjmcd> [20:21] I'm sure it isn't
[20:21] Just need the map
I would be absolutely thrilled to add some people to co-maintain this
package. All you need to do is go here:
Then login (at the upper right), and add yourself to the package for
the various branches you need. I'd recommend F-12 and devel to start
with, unless someone plans on doing F-10 or F-11 updates for the
release notes RPM.
Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/
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