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Release Notes Meeting 2009-08-06 Summary
by Eric Christensen 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

===================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Docs Project Release Notes Meeting ===================================================== Meeting started by Sparks at 15:01:18 UTC. The `full logs`_ are available. .. _`full logs`: fedora-meeting-1.2009-08-06-15.01.log.html Meeting log ----------- * **Roll Call** (Sparks-15:01:27_) * **Old Business** (Sparks-15:05:51_) * *LINK*: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jjmcd/Drafts/Browsers (jjmcd-15:07:07_) * *ACTION*: jjmcd to contact lynx developers about homepage (Sparks-15:10:12_) * *ACTION*: jjmcd to contact #f-devel-l about deprecating homepage (Sparks-15:10:31_) * **What to include in the RN RPM** (Sparks-15:21:02_) * *LINK*: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/release-notes/devel/README-Accessibilit… (Sparks-15:29:06_) * *IDEA*: We individualize all the packages and not ship them together. (Sparks-15:31:16_) * *ACTION*: Sparks to investigate how RH handles various languages of Publican docs (Sparks-16:13:07_) .. _Sparks-15:01:27: fedora-meeting-1.2009-08-06-15.01.log.html#l-2 .. _Sparks-15:05:51: fedora-meeting-1.2009-08-06-15.01.log.html#l-12 .. _jjmcd-15:07:07: fedora-meeting-1.2009-08-06-15.01.log.html#l-17 .. _Sparks-15:10:12: fedora-meeting-1.2009-08-06-15.01.log.html#l-29 .. _Sparks-15:10:31: fedora-meeting-1.2009-08-06-15.01.log.html#l-30 .. _Sparks-15:21:02: fedora-meeting-1.2009-08-06-15.01.log.html#l-74 .. _Sparks-15:29:06: fedora-meeting-1.2009-08-06-15.01.log.html#l-106 .. _Sparks-15:31:16: fedora-meeting-1.2009-08-06-15.01.log.html#l-115 .. _Sparks-16:13:07: fedora-meeting-1.2009-08-06-15.01.log.html#l-258 Meeting ended at 16:14:06 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jjmcd to contact lynx developers about homepage * jjmcd to contact #f-devel-l about deprecating homepage * Sparks to investigate how RH handles various languages of Publican docs Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jjmcd * jjmcd to contact lynx developers about homepage * jjmcd to contact #f-devel-l about deprecating homepage * Sparks * Sparks to investigate how RH handles various languages of Publican docs * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * Sparks (116) * jjmcd (116) * Kevin_Kofler (15) * zoglesby (14) Generated by `MeetBot`_ .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Release Notes Meeting 2009-08-06 IRC log
by Eric Christensen 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

15:01:18 <Sparks> #startmeeting Docs Project Release Notes Meeting 15:01:27 <Sparks> #topic Roll Call 15:01:28 * Sparks 15:01:46 * jjmcd . 15:03:28 <jjmcd> I thought zack was gonna be here, don't know who else 15:03:28 * Sparks wonders if rudi fell asleep 15:04:04 <jjmcd> It is the middle of the night there, 15:05:04 <jjmcd> Maybe we'll just make a decision and move on 15:05:12 <Sparks> WORKSFORME 15:05:41 * Sparks was also thinking that we had to use -1 room because the regular meeting room was occupied. 15:05:45 <Sparks> Oh well... 15:05:51 <Sparks> #topic Old Business 15:06:07 <Sparks> jjmcd to determine the affected browsers and contact the developers for the homepage project 15:06:17 <Sparks> I think this was for "homepage"? 15:06:27 <jjmcd> identified browsers, haven't contqacted developers 15:06:45 <Sparks> Which browsers were affected? Was it just Lynx? 15:07:07 <jjmcd> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jjmcd/Drafts/Browsers 15:07:13 <jjmcd> Yes, just lynx 15:07:42 <jjmcd> Pretty inconsistent behavior from browser to browser, though 15:07:42 <Sparks> Cool. That should be easy. 15:07:55 <Sparks> Ya... What is the proposed fix? 15:08:20 <jjmcd> Probably an internal message like the other browsers would make sense 15:08:28 <Sparks> Ok 15:08:40 <Sparks> So we are depreciating homepage 15:09:02 <jjmcd> I can't see where it makes sense to keep it unless lynx wants to include it in their rpm 15:09:18 <jjmcd> But we should probably send a note to devel-list first 15:09:23 <Sparks> Ya 15:09:42 <jjmcd> So many things have embedded browsers who knows 15:10:12 <Sparks> #action jjmcd to contact lynx developers about homepage 15:10:31 <Sparks> #action jjmcd to contact #f-devel-l about deprecating homepage 15:10:34 <Sparks> anything else? 15:10:51 <jjmcd> I think that takes care of homepage, now, what else wants to be in the rpm 15:11:03 <Sparks> jjmcd to determine space differentials between the combined RN and the individual files in RPMs 15:11:10 <Sparks> ^^^ The other item from last week 15:11:17 <jjmcd> oh yeah, forgot that one 15:11:34 <Sparks> next week? 15:11:41 <jjmcd> I was more concerned about the whole text, html, xml think 15:11:45 <jjmcd> thing 15:12:03 <jjmcd> Should we make all these consistent? 15:12:19 <jjmcd> Should we drop the html which nobody can find anyway? 15:12:19 <Sparks> prolly 15:12:35 <Sparks> we should simplify everything 15:12:45 <Sparks> don't ship stuff that we don't need in formats no one uses 15:13:08 <jjmcd> Personally, I would like to see everything in yelp, nice consistent appearance, easy to find 15:13:29 <Sparks> Does that work in KDE and other desktop environments? 15:13:30 <jjmcd> there is a scrollkeeper tab in kde help, but it doesn't seem to do anything 15:13:42 <jjmcd> but then I am having trouble testing kde 15:13:59 * Sparks should probably install KDE on his box 15:14:04 <jjmcd> can't boot a stick, and my vm install seems weird 15:14:36 <jjmcd> I have kde as another wm, but that isn't the same as having a pure kde box 15:14:44 <Sparks> Ya 15:14:53 <zoglesby> Sorry I am late 15:14:59 <jjmcd> hi zach 15:15:18 <jjmcd> lessee -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jjmcd/Drafts/Browsers 15:15:26 <jjmcd> I didn't contact the lynx guys yet 15:15:41 <jjmcd> zoglesby, do you us kde? 15:16:02 <zoglesby> no 15:16:11 <zoglesby> xmonad and sometimes gnome 15:16:30 <jjmcd> how does yelp work for you? 15:16:32 <Sparks> zoglesby: You can test xmonad for us, then 15:16:47 <zoglesby> test what? yelp? 15:17:10 <jjmcd> Trying to decide whether we can get away with release notes in xml only 15:17:46 <jjmcd> We do have a bug, tho, that makes no sense to me. Changelog doesn't show in yelp 15:19:08 <Sparks> doesn't Publican put the changelog inside the document? 15:19:13 <jjmcd> yes 15:19:28 <jjmcd> that why it makes no sense 15:19:42 <Sparks> just point to it and move on 15:19:45 <Sparks> IMO 15:19:59 <jjmcd> yeah, that one isn't high on my list 15:20:24 <jjmcd> so we have release notes, about fedora, readme, readme burning isos and readme live image all in yelp 15:20:35 <jjmcd> Whether separate RPMs tbd 15:20:48 <Sparks> Well... 15:20:55 <Sparks> let's address that now... 15:21:02 <Sparks> #topic What to include in the RN RPM 15:21:10 <Sparks> So there is... 15:21:28 <Sparks> About Fedora, readme, readme burning isos, and readme live image 15:21:41 <jjmcd> OK, I had readme accessibility as a separate topic in my mind, but we should address that, too 15:21:52 <Sparks> I think the last two shouldn't be distributed 15:22:08 <Sparks> I think we address those two topics in various guides and on the wiki 15:22:15 <jjmcd> because you already know if you got there 15:22:22 <Sparks> ya 15:22:23 <jjmcd> I can buy that 15:22:40 <Sparks> I say we remove those completely 15:22:53 <jjmcd> No complaints from this quarter 15:23:01 <Sparks> zoglesby: ? 15:23:06 <zoglesby> I agree 15:23:15 <Sparks> Okay. What is the readme? 15:23:20 <jjmcd> ok a little less clutter 15:23:25 <jjmcd> what about accessibility? 15:23:29 <zoglesby> no point in telling a user how to burn a cd if its in the iso 15:23:37 <zoglesby> they cant see it until after they burn it 15:24:00 <Sparks> jjmcd: What is in the accessibility document? 15:24:42 <jjmcd> dunno 15:24:49 <jjmcd> it went missing around 9 or 10 15:25:08 <jjmcd> wait, I have an f8 box 15:25:14 <Sparks> I think that should probably be a guide. 15:25:28 * Sparks assumes it talks about using Fedora with screen readers and such 15:25:43 <zoglesby> that would be my guess 15:26:09 <jjmcd> Oh yeah, it talks about legal requirements and such 15:26:32 <jjmcd> lists a boatload of solutions 15:26:46 <Sparks> Can you send that to me? 15:26:58 <jjmcd> should be in git 15:27:22 <jjmcd> looking 15:27:43 * Sparks doesn't see it 15:28:35 <jjmcd> I don't either ... K, I'll send it. Take some dancing tho, its on my firewall which is mostly devoid of software 15:29:06 <Sparks> http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/release-notes/devel/README-Accessibilit… 15:29:10 <Sparks> jjmcd: Is that it? 15:29:23 <jjmcd> I think so 15:29:27 <jjmcd> Lets recap 15:29:49 <jjmcd> yelp contains RNs, about-fedora, readme and readme-accessibility 15:30:00 <jjmcd> # of RPMs tbd 15:30:12 <jjmcd> We will somehow check that KDE can use 15:31:06 <jjmcd> That looks familiar 15:31:06 <zoglesby> I will check xmonad and evilwm 15:31:16 <Sparks> #idea We individualize all the packages and not ship them together. 15:31:47 <jjmcd> Perhaps we have an RN-gnome and RN-kde? 15:32:38 <Sparks> I think that's just more work 15:33:00 <jjmcd> I wonder whether that section 508 stuff has been expanded since 2000 15:33:44 * Sparks summons Kevin_Kofler to ask about KDE stuff 15:34:07 <Sparks> jjmcd: I used to do some of the accessibility stuff for East Carolina University 15:34:10 <jjmcd> Sparks, yeah, probably right. If we can make yelp/scrollkeeper work in kde we should be happy with that 15:34:19 <Sparks> I want to Publicanize that document and make it a guide 15:34:50 <jjmcd> Will you make a guide rpm for yelp? 15:36:11 <Sparks> Well... I can make it a package and make it available in the repo. 15:36:30 * Sparks isn't sure how things get installed by default 15:36:44 <Sparks> But I think it might be helpful to have that information available BEFORE installing 15:36:56 <jjmcd> Well, if I installed selinux-guide it would be nice to see it in yelp with the rest of the docs 15:37:11 <Sparks> it doesn't? 15:37:35 <jjmcd> No, the guides are html 15:38:02 * Sparks sees his guides in System->Documentation 15:38:15 <Sparks> right above Help and About Fedora and... 15:38:26 <jjmcd> Look in help 15:39:09 <Sparks> That's an odd place for those... I mean... maybe not odd but I sure wouldn't go looking there 15:39:17 * Sparks isn't the "help" kinda guy 15:39:48 <jjmcd> Well, "Documentation" doesn't show up until you install a guide 15:40:21 <Sparks> Yes 15:40:46 <Sparks> I think it makes it stand out more. 15:41:01 <Sparks> Because you'll know that something has changed when you install the package 15:41:08 <Sparks> otherwise you might not know where to go and look 15:41:11 <jjmcd> Maybe it makes more sense to put About-Fedora, Readme, Readme-Accessibility and Release-Notes in "Documentation" and leave yelp for the gnome stuff 15:42:00 <Sparks> Maybe 15:42:04 <jjmcd> Again, though, what does that look like in kde? 15:42:13 <jjmcd> That kde menu is just plain weird 15:42:22 <Sparks> yeah. 15:42:34 <Sparks> Apparently no one in #fedora-kde want to come join us 15:42:40 <jjmcd> we need rudi 15:42:48 <Sparks> I'll install KDE later today and will start playing around 15:42:49 <zoglesby> rudi rudi rudi 15:42:55 <jjmcd> Maybe they're all in AUS 15:43:16 <jjmcd> I would if today wasn't so bloody full 15:43:17 <Sparks> Maybe 15:43:34 <zoglesby> the menu issue with kde 4 will be an issue with gnome 3 (shell) anyway 15:44:01 <zoglesby> at least from what I have seen about it 15:44:03 <jjmcd> I tried it on a stick this morning, no joy. Then in a VM, only a few minutes to play tho. I have a free partition on my big box, I just hate to reboot it to play 15:44:08 <jjmcd> Aaarghh 15:44:51 <Sparks> Okay 15:45:00 <Sparks> So Accessibility will be taken care of... 15:45:02 <Sparks> what's left? 15:45:23 <Sparks> About-Fedora and Readme 15:46:02 <Sparks> Where is the readme and do we really need that? 15:46:05 <jjmcd> Isn't that kinda small for a guide - acc I mean 15:46:21 <jjmcd> readme has a bunch of misc stuff, i think its pretty useful 15:46:38 <jjmcd> although currently most people will never find it 15:46:43 <Sparks> Maybe, but it is important and I think it should be available in as many formats and to as many people as possible 15:46:57 <jjmcd> now that it is publicanized and on the menu it is probably more useful 15:47:25 <Sparks> Well... I still think packaging everything separately is better 15:47:44 <Sparks> I don't really care if you want it or not... if you think it is good then I say keep it! 15:47:58 <jjmcd> Yeah, I think we should. 15:48:32 <jjmcd> I notice the readmes weren't localized in F8 15:48:36 <jjmcd> interesting 15:49:06 <jjmcd> Oh, sorry, only accessibility wasn't localized 15:49:23 <jjmcd> hey 15:49:23 <Kevin_Kofler> So I was summoned? 15:49:29 <jjmcd> there's our kde expert 15:49:57 <jjmcd> We were trying to decide about formats for RN's, etc. 15:49:58 <Sparks> Kevin_Kofler: Oh do we have questions for you 15:50:07 <Sparks> RNs == Release Notes 15:50:32 <jjmcd> Right now we have an uneven mix of formats, some html, some text, some xml 15:50:37 <jjmcd> want to clean that up 15:50:58 <jjmcd> Our default is to put everything in yelp but we don't know what that does to kde 15:51:09 <Kevin_Kofler> That's horrible. 15:51:12 <Kevin_Kofler> KDE can't open Yelp files. 15:51:17 <Kevin_Kofler> And Yelp isn't on the KDE spin at all. 15:51:25 <Kevin_Kofler> As it requires the xulrunner stack. 15:51:32 <jjmcd> doesn't scrollkeeper read those files? 15:52:25 <Kevin_Kofler> I don't know. But it's not part of KDE either, I don't think we have this on the KDE spin at this time either. 15:52:46 <jjmcd> I found scrollkeeper in help on the kde live image, but it didn't seem to do anything 15:53:14 <Sparks> Kevin_Kofler: Can you install fedora-security-guide-en-US and tell us how it shows up on your KDE system? 15:53:15 <jjmcd> So, by default, publican puts files under a "Documentation" menu, does that work? 15:53:26 <Kevin_Kofler> Hmmm... http://scrollkeeper.sourceforge.net/browsers.shtml 15:53:47 <Kevin_Kofler> Looks like if you use Scrollkeeper format as opposed to Yelp's native format, you should get the doc to show up in both Yelp and KHelpCenter. 15:53:48 <Sparks> jjmcd: Publican == HTML, right? 15:53:59 <jjmcd> If that's what you build 15:54:14 <Sparks> jjmcd: make srpm-en-US 15:54:40 <jjmcd> yelp is just xml 15:54:41 <Kevin_Kofler> Hmmm, I'm still running F10, the XZ-payload RPMs won't install here. :-( 15:56:50 <Kevin_Kofler> What I do know is that KDE's help browser, KHelpCenter, won't open GNOME programs' Yelp documentations. 15:56:56 <Kevin_Kofler> It doesn't understand the format. 15:57:15 <jjmcd> hmmm, my kde help doesn't look remotely like that 15:57:26 <zoglesby> maybe we need to talk to the teams and get that fixed 15:57:47 <zoglesby> a format that works on both 15:57:49 <jjmcd> Well, there are a pile of auxiliary files, gnome might not provide them 15:59:30 <Kevin_Kofler> My recommendation is to go with plain HTML for the documentation, it works everywhere. 16:00:13 <Sparks> I think that is the output of Publican in srpm mode 16:00:38 <jjmcd> Well, not "plain" html, but rudi is fixing that 16:00:39 * Sparks will test that later today 16:01:13 <jjmcd> Sparks, I think we need to test multiple langs ... I'm not sure Publican actually handles that 16:01:39 <Sparks> ? 16:01:58 <jjmcd> How does KDEhelp deal with languages? Is there some OMF equivalent? 16:02:37 * Sparks notes it is high noon and time for the board meeting 16:02:44 <jjmcd> Sparks - if you log on in Dutch, do you get the Dutch guide? I see no evidence in the spec to enable that 16:02:51 <jjmcd> shoot you're right 16:03:01 <jjmcd> looks like more research 16:03:18 <Sparks> jjmcd: Well, if you install the Dutch version of the package... 16:03:40 <jjmcd> What if you have multiple langs installed? 16:03:44 <Sparks> So in Anaconda when you say "I speak Dutch" it should know how to grab the proper language 16:04:14 <jjmcd> On the same system, you get the release notes in the language you logged on with, no matter what you installed with 16:04:36 <Sparks> Well, after you have everything setup you can select which document you open according to the language. They would all show up 16:04:42 <jjmcd> anaconda doesn't grab packages based on languafe 16:05:06 <Sparks> I don't know 16:05:29 <jjmcd> The packages have all the languages in the rpm 16:05:39 <Sparks> no 16:05:48 <Sparks> errr 16:05:48 <jjmcd> Well, Publican's dont! 16:05:49 <Sparks> maybe 16:06:06 <Sparks> You CAN but the SG is being packaged separately 16:06:18 <jjmcd> But for all the apps, the strings are in a string file 16:06:40 <jjmcd> kinda like our po's 16:06:40 <Sparks> These aren't apps 16:06:49 <Sparks> These are documents 16:06:54 <jjmcd> yeah, but anaconda don't know that 16:07:18 <Sparks> Can we tell it? 16:07:36 <jjmcd> I'm not enough of a spec file guru to tell 16:07:51 <Sparks> nor am I 16:08:05 <jjmcd> I would hate to have to wade through a menu of 42 langs for each doc 16:08:36 <Sparks> You shouldn't have to 16:08:45 <jjmcd> With yelp it is simple - everything is in the lang you logged on with 16:08:50 <jjmcd> just like the apps 16:09:26 <Sparks> Well, I think we might have to build a better egg... 16:09:28 <Sparks> hmm... 16:09:36 <Sparks> Maybe documentation groups by language? 16:10:04 <Sparks> The language you select could automagically tag the proper documentation language? 16:10:12 <jjmcd> OK, lets do some research and go to the board meeting. Perhaps you can make an F10 RPM for Kevin 16:10:24 <jjmcd> That's how yelp works 16:10:46 <jjmcd> ANd if your language isn't there you get C 16:10:49 <Sparks> F10 should be there 16:11:08 <Sparks> Okay... will do research 16:11:11 <Sparks> anything else? 16:11:39 <Sparks> No? 16:11:43 <jjmcd> no 16:11:49 <Sparks> Thanks Kevin_Kofler for joining us 16:11:55 <Kevin_Kofler> KDE KHelpCenter will use the system's language for its native docs. 16:12:12 <Kevin_Kofler> But of course if you have just plain HTML, there's no obvious way to get that effect. :-( 16:12:35 * jjmcd needs to study kdehelpcenter 16:12:36 <Kevin_Kofler> The desktops work hard on making their formats work well, but unfortunately, interoperability leaves much to be desired. 16:12:36 <Sparks> jjmcd: You know, RH might have already figured this out for us. 16:12:46 <jjmcd> Sparks, they should have 16:13:07 <Sparks> #action Sparks to investigate how RH handles various languages of Publican docs 16:13:57 <Sparks> Okay... Closing down the shop... 16:14:04 <Sparks> Thanks everyone for coming! 16:14:06 <Sparks> #endmeeting

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Docs Meeting 2009-08-06 Summary
by Eric Christensen 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

=================================================================================================== #fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings =================================================================================================== Meeting started by Sparks at 00:01:15 UTC. The `full logs`_ are available. .. _`full logs`: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html Meeting log ----------- * **Roll Call** (Sparks-00:01:24_) * **Last week's action items** (Sparks-00:06:37_) * *ACTION*: Sparks to follow up with Pascal Calarco from News to make sure we are including all packages necessary for Zikula for them. -- Second Alarm (Sparks-00:06:58_) * *LINK*: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule (Sparks-00:07:31_) * *ACTION*: rudi to help sparks on changing the fedora-brand in Publican for CC license -- Second Alarm (Sparks-00:08:02_) * *LINK*: http://rlandmann.fedorapeople.org/license/ (rudi-00:08:24_) * *ACTION*: Sparks to package the three GPL editors for Zikula -- Second Alarm (Sparks-00:09:14_) * *ACTION*: Sparks to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide (Sparks-00:11:50_) * *ACTION*: rudi to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide (Sparks-00:13:01_) * *ACTION*: Sparks to create BZ component Deployment Guide --Second alarm (Sparks-00:13:25_) * *ACTION*: Sparks to write up CVE checking/validation procedures in the wiki --second alarm (Sparks-00:15:08_) * **Status on CMS (Zikula) <-- ke4qqq** (Sparks-00:16:19_) * **Status on CC license rollout.\** (Sparks-00:24:37_) * *LINK*: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule (Sparks-00:24:46_) * *ACTION*: ianweller to do something useful and write a draft announcement (ianweller-00:26:25_) * *LINK*: http://rlandmann.fedorapeople.org/license/ (quaid-00:28:32_) * *AGREED*: Require the re-user to attribute to "The Fedora Project" and link back (Sparks-00:45:32_) * **Shared open-source style guide <--ke4qqq** (Sparks-00:46:05_) * *LINK*: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-June/msg00163.html (Sparks-00:46:42_) * **Outstanding BZ Tickets** (Sparks-00:47:19_) * **Draft Documentation on the wiki** (Sparks-00:52:22_) * *LINK*: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Draft_Documentation (Sparks-00:52:39_) * *LINK*: http://rlandmann.fedorapeople.org/license/ is updated (rudi-01:01:35_) * **Guide needs?** (Sparks-01:05:05_) * **New Guides** (Sparks-01:05:40_) * **All other business** (Sparks-01:07:12_) * *ACTION*: jjmcd to do recon on Zikula for useful docs (Sparks-01:09:47_) .. _Sparks-00:01:24: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-2 .. _Sparks-00:06:37: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-23 .. _Sparks-00:06:58: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-25 .. _Sparks-00:07:31: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-29 .. _Sparks-00:08:02: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-32 .. _rudi-00:08:24: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-34 .. _Sparks-00:09:14: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-40 .. _Sparks-00:11:50: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-51 .. _Sparks-00:13:01: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-58 .. _Sparks-00:13:25: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-61 .. _Sparks-00:15:08: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-70 .. _Sparks-00:16:19: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-72 .. _Sparks-00:24:37: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-105 .. _Sparks-00:24:46: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-106 .. _ianweller-00:26:25: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-112 .. _quaid-00:28:32: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-119 .. _Sparks-00:45:32: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-194 .. _Sparks-00:46:05: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-196 .. _Sparks-00:46:42: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-201 .. _Sparks-00:47:19: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-203 .. _Sparks-00:52:22: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-216 .. _Sparks-00:52:39: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-217 .. _rudi-01:01:35: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-247 .. _Sparks-01:05:05: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-258 .. _Sparks-01:05:40: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-260 .. _Sparks-01:07:12: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-268 .. _Sparks-01:09:47: fedora-meeting.2009-08-06-00.01.log.html#l-278 Meeting ended at 01:11:29 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Sparks to follow up with Pascal Calarco from News to make sure we are including all packages necessary for Zikula for them. -- Second Alarm * rudi to help sparks on changing the fedora-brand in Publican for CC license -- Second Alarm * Sparks to package the three GPL editors for Zikula -- Second Alarm * Sparks to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide * rudi to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide * Sparks to create BZ component Deployment Guide --Second alarm * Sparks to write up CVE checking/validation procedures in the wiki --second alarm * ianweller to do something useful and write a draft announcement * jjmcd to do recon on Zikula for useful docs Action Items, by person ----------------------- * ianweller * ianweller to do something useful and write a draft announcement * jjmcd * jjmcd to do recon on Zikula for useful docs * rudi * rudi to help sparks on changing the fedora-brand in Publican for CC license -- Second Alarm * rudi to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide * Sparks * Sparks to follow up with Pascal Calarco from News to make sure we are including all packages necessary for Zikula for them. -- Second Alarm * Sparks to package the three GPL editors for Zikula -- Second Alarm * Sparks to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide * Sparks to create BZ component Deployment Guide --Second alarm * Sparks to write up CVE checking/validation procedures in the wiki --second alarm * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * Sparks (146) * quaid (42) * rudi (30) * jjmcd (30) * itbegins (21) * ianweller (9) * ricky (4) * danielsmw (3) * buggbot (1) * radsy (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Docs Meeting 2009-08-06 IRC log
by Eric Christensen 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

00:01:15 <Sparks> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 00:01:24 <Sparks> #topic Roll Call 00:01:26 * Sparks 00:01:28 * danielsmw is here. 00:01:33 * itbegins is here 00:01:38 <jjmcd> hier ben ik 00:01:47 * ianweller 00:01:59 * rudi is here 00:02:08 <ianweller> quaid: over here, not #fedora-meeting-1 ;) 00:03:11 <quaid> heh, like I can tell the difference in irssi 00:03:14 * quaid is here, too 00:03:58 <itbegins> ping me if you need me for a topic I can help with (i.e. the CMS) 00:04:24 * ianweller assigns itbegins to something non-CMS related ;) 00:04:34 <Sparks> itbegins: Oh we'll be talking CMS tonight 00:04:42 <itbegins> ianweller, I wouldn't do that if you want it to get done 00:04:48 <ianweller> hehe 00:05:38 <itbegins> Last week's work hours: 7.30-19.00, 7.30-18.30, 8.00-22.30, 8.00-22.30, 8.00-18.00 00:05:55 <itbegins> anyway, I'm polluting the meeting log... 00:06:00 <quaid> what? you took the weekend OFF? 00:06:09 * quaid *cough* slacker *cough* ;-D 00:06:25 <Sparks> Okay, let's get started... 00:06:28 <itbegins> quaid, no weekend working for the time being. I get that off to explore Manhattan 00:06:37 <Sparks> #topic Last week's action items 00:06:45 <Sparks> Sparks to follow up with Pascal Calarco from News to make sure we are including all packages necessary for Zikula for them. 00:06:58 <Sparks> #action Sparks to follow up with Pascal Calarco from News to make sure we are including all packages necessary for Zikula for them. -- Second Alarm 00:07:09 <Sparks> Yeah, I didn't get that done. 00:07:19 <Sparks> Sparks to write rollout plan for license change... 2nd alarm 00:07:22 <Sparks> done 00:07:31 <Sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule 00:07:45 <Sparks> We'll come back to this one a little later. 00:07:54 <Sparks> rudi to help sparks on changing the fedora-brand in Publican for CC license 00:08:02 <Sparks> #action rudi to help sparks on changing the fedora-brand in Publican for CC license -- Second Alarm 00:08:17 <rudi> Well, I've got a sample in place here: 00:08:24 <rudi> http://rlandmann.fedorapeople.org/license/ 00:08:24 <Sparks> rudi: We'll come back to this one but I think you are on the right track. 00:08:50 <Sparks> rudi: Cool. We'll hit that one in a few when we get to the license discussion. 00:08:52 <rudi> Now including attribution information after discussions on the list yesterday 00:08:57 <rudi> KK 00:09:07 <Sparks> Sparks to package the three GPL editors for Zikula 00:09:14 <Sparks> #action Sparks to package the three GPL editors for Zikula -- Second Alarm 00:09:24 <Sparks> Stickster to blog to see if we can get some PHP/JS folks to help with out with some Zikula modules. 00:09:40 <Sparks> stickster_afk isn't here but I think this was done. 00:09:46 <danielsmw> It was; I saw it. 00:09:51 <Sparks> Cool 00:09:53 <Sparks> Sparks to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide 00:09:54 <itbegins> I am sort of working on this as well 00:10:04 <itbegins> from the Zikula community side 00:10:08 <Sparks> itbegins: cool 00:10:25 <itbegins> I've been contacted by stickster_afk, I just have to write an article on the Zikula site. Likelihood of serious replies is limited, but i'll give it a go 00:10:42 <Sparks> Does anyone want to handle the Shared Open-Source Style Guide stuff? I just haven't had time to read up on it all and write about it. 00:11:50 <Sparks> #action Sparks to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide 00:11:58 <Sparks> Sparks to create BZ component Deployment Guide 00:12:04 <Sparks> Yeah, I failed on this one too... 00:12:05 * rudi will take it but is time poor right now 00:12:26 <Sparks> rudi: The Open-Source guide? 00:12:38 <Sparks> rudi: or the BZ component 00:12:44 <rudi> Sparks -- the OS guide 00:13:01 <Sparks> #action rudi to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide 00:13:04 <Sparks> rudi: Thank you 00:13:12 <Sparks> I'll get on the BZ component tonight. 00:13:25 <Sparks> #action Sparks to create BZ component Deployment Guide --Second alarm 00:13:26 <quaid> Sparks: I'd like to help move the shared style guide stuff along, yeah 00:13:40 <Sparks> Excellent 00:14:04 <Sparks> quaid: ke4qqq was going to work on it but he's gotten real busy lately for known reasons... 00:14:18 <Sparks> and I think the more people that get on that project the better 00:14:42 <quaid> yeah, coordinate on list, sounds fine 00:14:47 <Sparks> cool 00:14:54 <Sparks> Sparks to write up CVE checking/validation procedures in the wiki 00:15:01 <Sparks> This is inprogress. 00:15:08 <Sparks> #action Sparks to write up CVE checking/validation procedures in the wiki --second alarm 00:15:32 <Sparks> Okay, that's all from last week. Anyone have any other "old business"? 00:16:19 <Sparks> #topic Status on CMS (Zikula) <-- ke4qqq 00:16:32 <Sparks> Well, ke4qqq isn't here with us tonight... 00:16:57 <Sparks> but we had a meeting earlier today and got a few more items straight. 00:17:35 <Sparks> J5 joined us today and will be working on some of the javascript problems we are having 00:17:48 <Sparks> so hopefully all that will be squared away soon. 00:18:11 <Sparks> I got volunteered to rebuild the Zikula instance on PT15 so that will either happen later tonight or tomorrow. 00:18:24 <Sparks> Does anyone have anything questions or ideas? 00:19:07 <itbegins> Sparks, do you know what to install etc? 00:19:23 <Sparks> itbegins: I'll be installing all the packages we have in the repo. 00:19:39 <itbegins> Sparks, ok, then run install.php 00:19:45 <Sparks> Cool, thanks. 00:19:46 <itbegins> Sparks, you'll need a database ready 00:19:55 <Sparks> ya 00:20:00 <itbegins> in fact, it would be best if you didn't install from scratch and just pointed the new files to the old DB 00:20:12 <itbegins> due to the amount of setup work I did 00:20:17 <Sparks> I could do that, too. 00:20:19 <itbegins> though it can be replicated with a bit of work 00:20:32 <Sparks> I don't plan on wipeing that out. 00:20:32 <itbegins> if you want to do that, save /config/config.php from the old system 00:20:42 <itbegins> I assume it will be puppetized anyway 00:20:48 <Sparks> eventually, yes. 00:21:01 <Sparks> This is a preparation to puppetizing everything. 00:21:12 <itbegins> THere's also FASAuth (the FAS login module) and the theme 00:21:24 <itbegins> I sent the source to ke4qqq previously 00:21:34 <ricky> Is the FAS module in git somewhere or anything like that? 00:21:39 <Sparks> I don't think those have been packaged. 00:21:46 <Sparks> But we need to get those in the repo asap. 00:21:46 <ricky> We can get it in the fedora-infrastructure git repo if you'd like 00:21:56 <ricky> Ah, they'll be RPMs - that's fine too :-) 00:22:13 <Sparks> ricky: Yeah, everything will be RPMed for ease of use 00:22:25 <ricky> Cool, we like RPMs :-) 00:23:46 <Sparks> Okay, anything else? 00:24:05 <itbegins> That's it from my side 00:24:37 <Sparks> #topic Status on CC license rollout.\ 00:24:46 <Sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule 00:25:12 <quaid> a short bit ago I updated one of the tasks as completed 00:25:28 <Sparks> Okay, I created the above schedule. I'd appreciate feedback. 00:25:34 <itbegins> If there are no objects I will head off, haven't eaten yet... 00:25:41 <Sparks> rudi: Let's talk about your page you made. 00:25:49 * ianweller will work tomorrow on a draft announcement 00:26:25 <ianweller> #action ianweller to do something useful and write a draft announcement 00:26:28 <ianweller> ;) 00:26:36 <Sparks> ianweller: Thank you 00:26:54 <Sparks> rudi: So do we need to have an attribute statement? 00:27:26 <rudi> As I understand it, no we don't strictly need to. 00:27:38 <Sparks> Do we want an attribute statement? 00:27:48 <rudi> I'm in two minds about it. 00:28:32 <quaid> #link http://rlandmann.fedorapeople.org/license/ 00:28:47 <rudi> It increases transparency about how to re-use the material 00:29:24 <rudi> But I can imagine that it would also discourage reuse 00:29:56 <Sparks> I don't like the idea of being extremely strict on saying how they have to do it. 00:30:23 <quaid> it "feels" restrictive to reusers? 00:31:04 <Sparks> "You must say exactly this in the type font and size and..." 00:31:27 <quaid> I'll note that if we are strict, it's a reason for not listing every single contributor to a doc - puts a big burden on remixers -- so then it makes more sense to credit "Fedora Docs" & "Fedora L10n" 00:31:28 <Sparks> I'd rather just say, you have to attribute it to us and let them figure out what works best for them. 00:31:54 * quaid thinks about it and thinks his argument goes the other way too 00:32:09 <rudi> Sparks -- CC doesn't allow you to be *that* strict 00:32:49 <Sparks> rudi: So what would be the point of an attribution statement? 00:33:17 <rudi> Like I said, to alert people about what their obligations actually are 00:33:31 <rudi> Transparently 00:34:02 <Sparks> So spell out what the license is telling them to do 00:34:14 <rudi> Pretty much 00:34:34 <Sparks> Okay, I'm good with that. 00:34:43 <Sparks> Anyone else have an opinion? 00:35:00 <rudi> There are only two specific extra burdens that the licence allows: Specify a specific name to credit, and specify that you must link back. 00:35:15 <rudi> You'll notice that I suggest we invoke the second of those 00:35:33 <quaid> ah, that avoids the long list of names? 00:35:41 <rudi> No. 00:35:48 <rudi> That's the first 00:36:06 <rudi> Which we could also choose 00:36:15 <quaid> oic, sorry, misparsed 00:36:18 <Sparks> Okay 00:36:21 <quaid> 'specific name', gotcha 00:36:40 <Sparks> So +1 for only linking back. 00:36:52 <quaid> just for ye ole debil's advocate sake 00:37:04 <quaid> why not specify "Fedora Docs Team" and "Fedora L10n Team" 00:37:05 <rudi> Yeah; so instead of crediting the actual creators of the doc, we could specify that the re-user or remixer just credits "The Fedora Documentation Project" 00:37:08 <quaid> and avoid tracking a list of names? 00:37:17 * ianweller has to eat, bbl 00:37:17 <quaid> or "The Fedora Project" 00:37:39 <rudi> indeed 00:37:49 <jjmcd> That list of names is important to some 00:37:53 * Sparks likes "The Fedora Project" 00:38:16 <Sparks> jjmcd: Yeah, which is found on the documents themselves... but that list can be pretty long. 00:38:32 <rudi> jjmcd -- yes, which is why I shied away from suggesting that option 00:38:36 <quaid> I don't think we should burden others with our long list of names, should we continue to choose to display it. 00:38:44 <jjmcd> Yeah it can, so we really are just talking about what it says on some repuser's doc? 00:38:59 <jjmcd> re-user grrrr 00:39:06 <rudi> jjmcd -- yes 00:39:40 <jjmcd> Ahh ... I like Fedora Project, but we get some good press for our docs, I wonder whether Fedora Docs Project doesn't leverage that 00:39:56 <quaid> jjmcd: well, we ARE docs for the FP 00:40:00 <rudi> jjmcd -- don't forget L10N 00:40:05 <quaid> exactly 00:40:10 <quaid> and Design 00:40:16 <quaid> and the Publican team for the cool look 00:40:17 <quaid> and etc. 00:40:56 <quaid> One of the problems I have with all this self-branding (My Name, My SubProject's Name) is that it distracts and fractions from the greater; 00:41:10 <quaid> even if one of my purposes in Fedora is to build my name 00:41:25 <quaid> everyone else has to rely upon the RPM loginfo 00:41:27 <Sparks> WE ARE FEDORA 00:41:30 <quaid> no one gets to call their package 00:41:35 <quaid> quaid-zikula-foo.rpm 00:41:47 <Sparks> no? 00:41:57 <quaid> how about this 00:41:58 <Sparks> Is that against the package naming rules? 00:42:01 <quaid> do rpm -qi $anypackage 00:42:06 <quaid> do you see the packagers name in there? 00:42:19 * radsy wanders off... services guide has been sent to lists fo review.. 00:42:23 <quaid> why would Docs get to have a big splash with our name just because we get to control the printing press? 00:42:35 <quaid> shouldn't we put every packager's name in there that contributed to a package that we document? 00:43:00 * quaid quotes his daughter's, "It's not Fu-yair!" 00:43:21 <quaid> anyway, sorry, different debate 00:43:28 <quaid> but not a problem we should push on reusers 00:43:38 <quaid> so +1 to The Fedora Project from me 00:43:46 * quaid steps down carefully from his soap box 00:43:49 * Sparks calls for a vote 00:44:17 <Sparks> Require the re-user to attribute to "The Fedora Project" and link back 00:44:19 <Sparks> +1 00:44:29 <rudi> +1 00:44:40 <jjmcd> +1 00:44:40 <danielsmw> +1 00:44:52 <quaid> +1 00:45:32 <Sparks> #agreed Require the re-user to attribute to "The Fedora Project" and link back 00:45:40 <Sparks> Okay, anything else on the license? 00:46:05 <Sparks> #topic Shared open-source style guide <--ke4qqq 00:46:11 <rudi> Give me a few minutes and I'll have that revision in place; then, if we're happy with it, I'll run it past legal 00:46:23 <Sparks> Okay... quaid and rudi will be helping ke4qqq with this. 00:46:27 <Sparks> Anything else? 00:46:30 <Sparks> rudi: Thanks 00:46:42 <Sparks> #link https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-June/msg00163.html 00:47:12 * Sparks moves on 00:47:19 <Sparks> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets 00:47:42 <Sparks> Okay, I know people were working their tickets since last Wednesday. Good job. 00:48:05 <Sparks> I spent about a half hour "gardening" the tickets this afternoon. 00:48:32 <Sparks> If you have tickets assigned to you please make sure you work these issues... 00:48:44 <Sparks> especially if they are from a user. 00:49:52 <Sparks> If the ticket takes a while to fix I'd like everyone to make note at least monthly to show you are still working the problem. 00:50:30 * Sparks notes some people got knocked off there. 00:50:44 <Sparks> Does anyone have any questions about the BZ tickets 00:50:46 <Sparks> ? 00:51:10 <quaid> anyone want mine? 00:51:25 <Sparks> quaid: No, I think you need yours. I don't think you have enough to do. 00:51:39 <quaid> good for ya! 00:51:43 <Sparks> :) 00:52:22 <Sparks> #topic Draft Documentation on the wiki 00:52:39 <Sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Draft_Documentation 00:52:56 <jjmcd> wheeeeee 00:53:03 <Sparks> And jjmcd's back! 00:53:18 <Sparks> jjmcd: You'll have to read the log to see what we assigned to you while you were out. 00:53:31 <Sparks> Okay... Draft Documentation 00:53:34 <jjmcd> did u get "504825, 228728 - should talk about tomorrow" before the netsplit? 00:53:46 <Sparks> no 00:54:02 <Sparks> after the meeting? 00:54:14 <jjmcd> tomorrow's 11AM 00:54:42 <Sparks> No, can we talk about them after tonight meeting? 00:54:58 <Sparks> or do we need to talk about them now? 00:55:36 <jjmcd> Well, one is probably a longer conversation, not sure I'm ready with all the questions, the other could drag on too 00:56:08 <jjmcd> The second is are we going to ressurect the guide -- accessibility 00:56:15 <Sparks> I thought 504825 would be fairly straight forward 00:56:19 <jjmcd> and if so, in what form/format 00:56:46 <jjmcd> Well, we never really did get to a complete answer 00:57:01 <Sparks> jjmcd: What the heck... You are not authorized to access bug #228728. 00:57:02 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=228728 is not accessible. 00:57:20 * Sparks dislikes buggbot. 00:57:50 * ianweller is confused at 228728. 00:57:56 <jjmcd> we said we would produce 3 formats, but we still never asked the question what does the rpm look like, how will it be presented installed, do we drop gnome or include kde, etc etc 00:58:11 <jjmcd> let me see if i fat-fingered it 00:59:21 <jjmcd> 228729 sri 00:59:49 * Sparks is now curious what 228728 is. 01:00:14 <Sparks> jjmcd: Dang... okay, I remember now 01:00:16 <jjmcd> prolly some super secret rhel thingie 01:00:23 <Sparks> prolly 01:00:55 <Sparks> jjmcd: Okay, so you want to wait until tomorrow's meeting for this? 01:01:24 <jjmcd> Yeah, I think it is a little related to the other, so lets talk about what shows on the iso, and ignore the docs.fp.o 01:01:33 <jjmcd> which we have covered sort of 01:01:35 <rudi> http://rlandmann.fedorapeople.org/license/ is updated 01:01:54 <jjmcd> does it work in internet exploder? 01:02:32 <jjmcd> I have no argument with that language 01:02:39 <Sparks> Don't know... I don't have IE anywhere. 01:02:45 <rudi> Probably not; but that's got nothing to do with the license 01:03:01 <jjmcd> yeah, I know. Just pokin' 01:03:06 <rudi> :) 01:04:26 <Sparks> Okay 01:04:29 <Sparks> Draft Documentation 01:04:34 <Sparks> it's there... 01:04:49 <Sparks> Please look at it every so often and see if you can help something along. 01:05:05 <Sparks> #topic Guide needs? 01:05:15 <Sparks> Does anyone need anything for their Guide? 01:05:40 <Sparks> #topic New Guides 01:05:47 <Sparks> Anyone have any new guide ideas? 01:06:08 <jjmcd> yeah, but not until after F12 01:06:15 <Sparks> jjmcd: What you got? 01:06:34 <jjmcd> A guide to Fedora for radio amateurs 01:06:41 <Sparks> jjmcd: Count me in 01:06:45 <jjmcd> ;-) 01:06:59 <Sparks> Anyone else? 01:07:12 <Sparks> #topic All other business 01:07:18 <Sparks> Does anyone have anything else? 01:07:33 * Sparks notes stickster arriving right at the end of the meeting 01:07:55 <jjmcd> well, these manager types 01:08:04 <Sparks> ya.. tell me about it 01:08:04 <jjmcd> you know how THEY are 01:08:23 <Sparks> ANYONE? ANYTHING? 01:08:39 <jjmcd> is there any useful docs for zikula? 01:08:56 <Sparks> I don't know 01:09:35 <jjmcd> Maybe I'll just rely on infra and not stress over it 01:09:47 <Sparks> #action jjmcd to do recon on Zikula for useful docs 01:10:07 <jjmcd> zikula.org has lots, but nothing useful 01:10:41 <Sparks> Anything else? 01:11:04 <Sparks> 5 01:11:06 <Sparks> 4 01:11:09 <Sparks> 3 01:11:11 <Sparks> 2 01:11:13 <Sparks> 1 01:11:26 <Sparks> Thanks everyone for coming! 01:11:29 <Sparks> #endmeeting

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SELinux managing confined services guide - call for review
by Scott Radvan 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

Hi, Having added many new chapters/services, the Fedora SELinux managing confined services guide is very close to reaching publication. I would greatly appreciate any and all comments or corrections: http://sradvan.fedorapeople.org/SELinux_Managing_Confined_Services/en-US/ Cheers, -- Scott Radvan Content Author, Platform (Installation and Deployment) Red Hat Asia Pacific (Brisbane) http://www.apac.redhat.com

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Docs Calendar
by John Poelstra 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

Tasks Beginning or Ending in the Next Two Weeks Name Start End Comb Beats and Feature Pages for Alpha Tue 2009-07-28 Mon 2009-08-17 Alpha Project Wide Release Readiness Meeting Wed 2009-08-12 Wed 2009-08-12 Create Alpha Announcement Wed 2009-08-12 Fri 2009-08-14 Prepare Alpha Release Notes (1 page) Mon 2009-08-17 Mon 2009-08-17 Alpha Public Availability Tue 2009-08-18 Tue 2009-08-18 Post Alpha Release Notes One-Page Tue 2009-08-18 Tue 2009-08-18 Full schedule: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/

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License changeover timeline
by Eric Christensen 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

I've created a timeline[1] of the events that need to happen to get this license changeover complete. I'd like to officially kick it off on Friday. Please look over it and provide input/changes as necessary. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule Thanks, Eric

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[Bug 479470] New: cobbler kssendmac and breed suse
by Red Hat Bugzilla 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: cobbler kssendmac and breed suse https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=479470 Summary: cobbler kssendmac and breed suse Product: Fedora Hosted Projects Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: Deployment_Guide AssignedTo: mhideo(a)redhat.com ReportedBy: quenzler(a)us.ibm.com QAContact: rlerch(a)redhat.com CC: fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: breed = suse /boot/grub/menu.lst contains kssendmac Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): cobbler-1.2.9-1.fc9.noarch How reproducible: Install a SuSE client Actual results: kssendmac exists as a boot parameter on a SuSE client Expected results: No kssendmac boot parameter Additional info: Find a way to avoid adding kssendmac to the kernel_options string if it's not applicable to the breed. Hack (since I'm only installing SuSE clients): # diff utils.py utils.py.ori 478,479c478,479 < # if len(kernel_txt) < 244: < # results["kernel_options"]["kssendmac"] = None --- > if len(kernel_txt) < 244: > results["kernel_options"]["kssendmac"] = None -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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REMINDER: Docs Project Meeting
by Eric Christensen 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

REMINDER: There will be a Fedora Docs Meeting today at 0001 UTC. The agenda can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings. If you have anything you'd like to add to the agenda, please do so before 2330 UTC. Thanks, Eric

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[Bug 466676] problem with package paraview.x86_64 3.2.1-3.fc8
by Red Hat Bugzilla 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466676 Ricky Zhou <rzhou(a)redhat.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED CC| |rzhou(a)redhat.com Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #1 from Ricky Zhou <rzhou(a)redhat.com> 2009-08-05 12:13:21 EDT --- Hi, sorry this bug got lost - it was reported in the wrong component, which doesn't get much attention anymore. Fedora 8 is no longer supported now, but if this problem still exists in F10 or F11, can you please submit a bug under the Fedora product and paraview component? Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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