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Docs Meeting 2009-09-24 Summary
by Eric Christensen 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 =================================================================================================== #fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings =================================================================================================== Meeting started by Sparks at 00:01:38 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-09-24/fedora-meeting.2… . Meeting log - ----------- * Roll Call (Sparks, 00:01:47) * Last week's action items (Sparks, 00:08:48) * Release notes format changes (Sparks, 00:09:42) * Status on CMS (Zikula) (Sparks, 00:10:54) * LINK: http://fedora.is-sixsigma.com/F12beta (jjmcd, 00:10:55) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status (Sparks, 00:12:17) * Status on CC license rollout. (Sparks, 00:22:03) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule (Sparks, 00:27:08) * # (Sparks, 00:29:30) * Shared open-source style guide (Sparks, 00:29:32) * Guide needs? (Sparks, 00:39:28) * New Guides (Sparks, 00:41:36) * All other business (Sparks, 00:42:33) Meeting ended at 00:44:57 UTC. Action Items - ------------ Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * Sparks (79) * danielsmw (35) * quaid (27) * jjmcd (9) * bochecha (3) * zodbot (2) * ianweller (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.3 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.8) iEYEARECAAYFAkrB9ZAACgkQfQTSQL0MFMHpmQCgsoP9GGBhMslBLYPCEUzb/98Q qssAoIIqyJm8a5ZHon++O2HN855DRhXI =CJM7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Docs Meeting 2009-09-24 IRC Log
by Eric Christensen 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 00:01:38 #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 00:01:38 Meeting started Thu Sep 24 00:01:38 2009 UTC. The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:01:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 00:01:47 #topic Roll Call 00:01:48 * Sparks 00:02:07 * jjmcd . 00:02:56 * danielsmw 00:03:31 * ianweller kinda sorta not really 00:05:47 * Sparks gives everyone just a few more minutes 00:08:34 Okay, let's get started. 00:08:48 #topic Last week's action items 00:09:00 quaid to follow up with Richard about the use of the CC logo on the wiki. 00:09:01 none of the action item guys are here 00:09:09 Yeah, I just realized that. 00:09:24 We'll just pass these by... 00:09:42 #topic Release notes format changes 00:09:50 jjmcd: Is there any further discussion on this? 00:09:56 what were we changing? 00:10:26 A little late, they are being built each night 00:10:34 I don't know. 00:10:42 We'll just call this topic done. 00:10:54 #topic Status on CMS (Zikula) 00:10:55 http://fedora.is-sixsigma.com/F12beta 00:11:02 Is there any update on Zikula? 00:11:25 Um, I guess I have a small one 00:11:31 danielsmw: go ahead 00:11:45 I hope I'm not being a blocker, but I'm not done with my package yet. 00:11:48 I am very close though 00:11:51 and most of the work is done 00:11:59 danielsmw: Which package? 00:12:01 what I need is a legit packager to help me out with my packaging mistakes 00:12:04 Xinha, for Scribite! 00:12:17 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status 00:12:26 ^^^ I don't see it on the list. Could you add it, please? 00:12:53 danielsmw: I'm a packager but certainly not legit. ianweller is one, though. 00:13:01 Sparks: alright 00:13:05 If he can't help you then maybe he can point you to someone who can 00:13:07 wait, should this be on this list? 00:13:14 Yes. 00:13:19 okay 00:13:23 even though it's a general package 00:13:26 and not a zikula module? 00:13:54 Well... it's needed for Zikula, right? 00:13:56 It's just that it's _for_ zikula, which is why I brought it up now. 00:13:58 Yeah, it is 00:14:02 So I guess it goes there then. 00:14:05 I'll update the list. :) 00:14:18 TU 00:14:40 danielsmw: Do you know how much more time it will take to get it straight? 00:14:57 if I may... I had started to package Xinha for a project of mine (but they I abandoned as I didn't use it in the end) 00:15:18 Sparks: i really do have most of it done now, I believe. It's just silly rpmbuild errors 00:15:27 all I remember is that it wasn't a hard package, I had it built 00:15:40 bochecha: it doesn't look that hard, I'm just no good at packaging. :) 00:15:41 danielsmw: What are the errors? 00:15:54 danielsmw, if I can help, drop me an email, I had already done it :P 00:16:09 Sparks: things like... using sources that aren't archives, and such. 00:16:12 bochecha: will do, thanks! 00:16:25 Sparks: but the main outline of what I"m doing is there. 00:16:31 danielsmw.fedorapeople.org/xinha.spec 00:17:20 danielsmw: Okay. If I can get my head above water (maybe this weekend) I'll be happy to look at it. ianweller fixed so many errors for me that I might know how to fix yours 00:17:24 might 00:17:41 Sparks: might. thanks, it looks like I'll be getting plenty of help. 00:17:47 danielsmw, if you have time tomorrow I might help, too tired tonite 00:18:08 cool 00:18:12 great 00:18:14 thanks everyone. 00:18:17 i appreciate it. 00:18:20 Anything else for zikula? 00:19:21 uh 00:19:23 I have a question 00:19:27 danielsmw: Go ahead 00:19:35 * quaid arrives back 00:19:38 On that page you told me to edit, FCKeditor is listed as something that needs to be packaged 00:19:46 * quaid can address his item when it comes back around 00:19:47 which is basically the same thing as Xinha. 00:19:53 is there a reason they should both be done? 00:20:23 No 00:20:25 or is that just left over? 00:20:26 Not really 00:20:30 okay, i'll remove it then. 00:21:11 Okay, anything else for Zikula? 00:22:03 #topic Status on CC license rollout. 00:22:14 quaid: Were you able to follow up with Legal? 00:22:16 danielsmw: did you get hooked up with the Beacon maintainer? 00:22:19 Sparks: yes! 00:22:25 quaid: no, I forgot! 00:22:28 ironically, Richard just pointed back to spot 00:22:41 and spot knows of the problem; and there doesn't seem to be a solution 00:22:51 i.e., the CC logo(s) are not coverable by the CC-BY-SA 00:23:04 but maybe spot can explain better ... 00:23:08 * quaid forgot to ask if he'd be around 00:23:16 neither is our logo... 00:23:24 BUT, I'm good either way 00:23:44 heh, nor are other logos we might carry 00:23:50 yeah 00:24:22 spot: You around? 00:25:14 I guess not. 00:25:24 So I don't see the problem with using it. 00:25:47 And I do see a problem with using it. 00:26:00 So are we going to go with "don't use it"? 00:26:07 well, we have a clear legal guidance for don't use 00:26:13 so, for now, we don't use it. 00:26:24 I'll ask spot to explain on list, k? 00:26:40 k 00:27:08 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule 00:27:29 So I guess we need to make internal notifications and then get ianweller on changing the wiki over 00:28:08 rudi's not here tonight but he was still trying to get access to those packages so he could change the Publican brand files over 00:28:30 * danielsmw is sneaking out early. peace. 00:28:37 danielsmw: Have a good one 00:28:46 Anything else on the license changeover? 00:29:02 * quaid is happy :) 00:29:30 #topic # 00:29:30 * 00:29:32 #topic Shared open-source style guide 00:29:47 I think this is a rudi thing, too. Anyone have anything to report on this? 00:30:09 well, yes 00:30:14 this was just part of something, righ? 00:30:14 quaid: Go ahead 00:30:20 do we have someone who is focusing on what is going on 00:30:25 with the upstream initiative? 00:30:26 Well.... 00:30:29 writingopensource.org, right? 00:30:34 maybe 00:30:39 I don't remember now 00:30:49 I think rudi was working on getting RH to release their docs 00:31:03 right 00:31:04 I think ke4qqq was going to work on it as well 00:31:17 that is something we can contribute to the upstream effort, or so I thought we discussed :) 00:31:27 I forget who was on-list with this item ... 00:31:36 he's a gnome.org person, iirc. 00:31:38 yeah, I think someone else had point but I don't remember who 00:31:48 * quaid looks 00:34:38 It's been so long ago I don't even remember 00:34:49 shaun mcchance? 00:34:57 * quaid having slow browser ... 00:35:50 * quaid joins http://identi.ca/group/wosdocs 00:36:19 So we need to figure out who from FP is going to work on this. 00:36:56 I think ke4qqq was interested but I don't know how much time he has now 00:38:53 Let's take this to the list and see if we can stir up any interest 00:38:57 anything else on this? 00:39:28 #topic Guide needs? 00:39:38 Are their any guides (or RN) that need help? 00:40:13 I see some weird stuff 00:40:19 need to get w/rudi 00:40:56 okay... anything else? 00:41:36 #topic New Guides 00:41:40 Any new guides? 00:42:33 #topic All other business 00:42:46 Anyone have anything else? 00:44:32 * Sparks thinks we're going to get done early 00:44:43 5 00:44:45 4 00:44:47 3 00:44:49 2 00:44:52 1 00:44:57 #endmeeting -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.8) iEYEARECAAYFAkrB9UgACgkQfQTSQL0MFMErPQCgkOorQMfe6mD61fq7OUd1ZOFX hqsAnin1A1u2NTf4GukmBX+1zr75gJZf =gcpi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Branch 'f12-tx' - po/pt.po (Action Required)
by noreply＠boxbe.com 27 Sep '09

27 Sep '09

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Technical advisory opportunity
by Paul W. Frields 25 Sep '09

25 Sep '09

Hi Fedora Docs team, I was contacted by an editor for a well-known series of UNIX volumes who asked me to check with the Docs team to see if there was anyone interested in serving as a technical assistant for their upcoming book that in part covers Fedora 12. It's a for-fee job. I don't want to clog the list with "me too" messages, so please respond to me off-list. I'll forward all names I receive by COB Friday, September 25th to the editor for action, and note them here to the list as well for transparency. Here are the skills, abilities, and knowledge you'll need to do the job: * Access to a pre-Fedora 12 (Rawhide) system, staying current with updates * RHCE certification, or an equivalent level of skill -- that is, skill in most pieces of the Fedora platform -- is helpful * A significant amount of spare time to fact-check all the relevant chapters, usually a few at a time * The ability to relay and revise information if something changes over the period of work * Ability to work well and be accurate and thorough under pressure and strict time deadlines * The ability to communicate clearly in English to other people on the team such as authors and editors I've done technical editing on a book in the past, and it is a fairly demanding part-time job that requires several weeks of detail-oriented reading, testing, note-taking, and communication with the writers. I don't think I could have done it alongside my tasks in a release cycle at the time, but I happened to come into a project during downtime after a release so everything worked out OK. Fortunately, it can be very rewarding if you enjoy the subject matter. I look forward to hearing from any interested folks off-list. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Re: Fedora 12 Release Notes
by John J. McDonough 25 Sep '09

25 Sep '09

----- Original Message ----- From: "Göran Uddeborg" <goeran(a)uddeborg.se> To: "John J. McDonough" <wb8rcr(a)arrl.net>; "Fedora Translation Project List" <fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com> Cc: "For participants of the Documentation Project" <fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:14 PM Subject: Fedora 12 Release Notes > There are certain parts of the release notes missing from the pot > files. For example section "1.5.1. We Need Feedback!". Is this > something that is planned to be fixed later on, or should I write a > bugzilla about it? Interesting. That section is part of "Common Content", and as such, isn't really a part of the Release Notes but a part of the Fedora branding for Publican. So no its not a bug, and no it shouldn't be in the pot. I have just installed updated branding so if all goes well, a copy with the branding bits in the correct language for nl and se should be up in an hour or less. All the languages will be done overnight. --McD

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Won't be working on Fedora 12 Beta release notes
by Rahul Sundaram 24 Sep '09

24 Sep '09

Hi, I did spend sometime outlining what needs to be done but I am not going to do that work. If someone else doesn't step up, it won't get done and that would be a pity. If you want to participate, details at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Beta_release_notes Rahul

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Re: a home for comps @books group
by Jens-Ulrik Petersen 23 Sep '09

23 Sep '09

----- "Christopher Curran" <ccurran(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > a) add @books to the Development category, > > (fits the 3 current opensource devel books there) > There is no point breaking string > freeze if the books are already deprecated. I don't think any are deprecated. For reference the current books are: - diveintopython - javanotes - ldd-pdf (linux device drivers) so yeah developer-oriented. I went ahead and put @books into the Development category for F12. I am still wondering about a "Content" category for F13. Should we go with that even it only were to contain @books for now? Anyway probably more important would be getting gnome-packagekit to list books when we have more. Jens

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Fedora 12 Release Notes
by John J. McDonough 22 Sep '09

22 Sep '09

I am currently uploading a build of the release notes to http://fedora.is-sixsigma.com/F12beta/ for all the languages. All the languages should be there in a few hours. Most only have a little translation done, but I appreciate folks getting right on this. I will update this copy frequently over the next couple of weeks so that translators have a chance to review their work without having to personally go through all the gyrations of building the notes. Thanks for your hard work --McD

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Hello world!
by B.S. 21 Sep '09

21 Sep '09

I have just joined the group, I'm want to help translation of documents.I'm from turkey.I only know turkish and english so I'm planning to translate some english docs to my native language Where can I start?

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[Bug 508935] New: Need to move the Documentation Guide to the wiki
by Red Hat Bugzilla 21 Sep '09

21 Sep '09

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Need to move the Documentation Guide to the wiki https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508935 Summary: Need to move the Documentation Guide to the wiki Product: Fedora Documentation Version: devel Platform: All URL: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/documentation-guide/en_U S/ OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: project-tracking AssignedTo: fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com ReportedBy: eric(a)christensenplace.us QAContact: eric(a)christensenplace.us CC: stickster(a)gmail.com Classification: Fedora Need to move the Documentation Guide to the wiki for further clean up and development. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug.

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