As I noted in the last marketing meeting could have done a better than
with the release notes for the Alpha release than we did. I just ran out
of time. The Beta release is schedule at 2009-10-13. So we don't really
have too much time. As promised, here are more details.
The Beta release notes is a important source of information for our
users, testers, ambassadors, even fellow developers and press for that
release. So I am asking you all to help you a bit. Here is how:
I have "open sourced" my process of finding information and my notes and
copied over all that information to
If you don't have much time, take one item in this list and add more
information. I will also help you avoid even clicking on a link and copy
the same information below:
* Hybrid ISO - earlier revision in Alpha release notes history. Confirm
that it works well before adding it here
* Status of http://www.ing.unibs.it/openfwwf/ in Fedora? How well does
* Moblin - Explain in detail with potentially a screencast
* GNOME Shell - Ogg Screencast possibly with voice over
* Yum Presto - In GNOME and KDE groups. What about delta rpm generation?
* http://live.gnome.org/GTK%2B/ClientSideWindows - Eclipse and Adobe
Reader needs a workaround
* Abrt - whats the status?
* Anaconda MDRaid - Explain in detail
* Lower Process Capabilities
* Contact KDE SIG and gather important changes. Phonon has changed to
gstreamer backend in Alpha release and was not mentioned. So call it out
in the Beta release.
* Look at F11 Preview release notes and use it as a template. It matches
the beta this release because of rel eng decision to tweak the release
process a bit
* Read rawhide reports in between alpha and beta release for new
packages as well as import changes worth noting here
* Quickly skimp through all threads in fedora-devel and fedora-test list
for note worthy changes
* Read Planet Fedora and reference developer blogs when important
changes are mentioned
* Consult with QA team and make sure note worth issues are mentioned. If
anything needs explicit testing, highlight it
* More details at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/FeatureList. Read the release
notes section of each of the approved feature
Hi docs team
Sorry I missed out today's meeting, and please allow me to ask the
According to Fedora 12 Schedule, it was 1-Sep (Tue) that the reminder of
'Beta rel-notes POT coming' to be sent to trans team, but it has not
What is the status of Beta rel-notes, can trans team expect to have PO
files on 8-Sep as scheduled?
00:00:45 <jjmcd> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda:
00:00:45 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 3 00:00:45 2009 UTC. The chair
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00:01:06 <jjmcd> #topic Roll call
00:01:34 * jjmcd is here
00:01:51 * ryanlerch is here
00:01:51 * rudi is here
00:02:46 <jjmcd> Wonder where is ianweller, ke4qqq, danielsmw
00:03:06 <jjmcd> #topic Last week's action items
00:03:43 <jjmcd> rudi - anything on changing the license info on Publican?
00:03:59 <rudi> jjmcd -- yep; we're just about good to go
00:04:29 <rudi> And -- best news -- I can confirm that we will have a new
brand package shortly
00:04:43 <rudi> To support Publican 0.X
00:04:51 <jjmcd> outstanding
00:05:20 <jjmcd> Do I understand we will do the F12 docs with 0.x and wait
for 1.x until next cycle?
00:05:55 <rudi> I think that's the safest assumption for now, although 1.x
should be ready by then.
00:06:09 <rudi> if so, we'll use that :)
00:06:24 <jjmcd> Presumably the document source is mostly compatible?
00:06:29 <rudi> Yes!
00:06:47 <rudi> All that needs to change is swap the Makefile for a
00:06:48 <jjmcd> Good deal. Does the brand package fix the IE error?
00:06:57 <rudi> 1.x has the conversion utility built into it
00:07:17 <rudi> Won't fix the IE error as things stand now
00:07:19 * ianweller is here but really isn't here
00:08:00 <jjmcd> Bummer - makes us look like amateurs to 80% of the folks
out there - oh well, I guess I'll grok some bach for the RNs
00:08:07 <jjmcd> s/bach/bash
00:08:46 <jjmcd> OK, last time there was an action item I didn't
understand - co-maintainer for 0
00:09:34 <rudi> That's about the packaging -- that won't be needed.
00:09:40 <jjmcd> excellent
00:09:48 <jjmcd> Anything else on action items?
00:10:09 <jjmcd> Pay attention for a bit ianweller
00:10:22 <ianweller> hi
00:10:24 <jjmcd> #topic Status on CMS
00:10:34 <jjmcd> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status
00:10:41 <jjmcd> Anything to report
00:10:49 <ianweller> not from me
00:10:56 <ianweller> i haven't been very active in the CMS (or anything)
00:11:28 * jjmcd is just getting back after a long string of distractions
00:11:57 <jjmcd> This may turn out to be a short meeting
00:12:00 <jjmcd> #topic Status on CC license rollout
00:12:28 <jjmcd> ianweller, seems like you're the only knowledgable one here
as well, altho maybe rudi has something to add
00:12:48 <ianweller> i did a RFC for the announcements
00:12:52 <ianweller> haven't heard of anything else
00:13:21 <rudi> Nothing to add -- we're good to go from Red Hat's side
00:13:53 <jjmcd> I gather we understand what we have to do in terms of
legalese, logos, etc.? It's just a matter of pulling the trigger?
00:14:06 <rudi> jjmcd -- yep; all good.
00:14:14 <jjmcd> cool beans
00:14:36 <jjmcd> Anything else on CC?
00:15:25 <jjmcd> #topic Guide needs
00:15:34 <jjmcd> Anyone need anything?
00:16:14 <jjmcd> boy it's quiet in here - must be something good on TV
00:16:27 <jjmcd> #topic New business
00:16:45 <jjmcd> Anyone have anything for the good of the order?
00:16:58 <ianweller> nope
00:17:02 <rudi> I think it's the calm before the storm :)
00:17:28 <jjmcd> I've been trying to get the change tables set up for the
beats. The rpm_groups are so screwed up it is a major pita
00:17:52 <jjmcd> ryanlerch, did you see what we are planning for F12 or was
it just GMTA?
00:18:41 <jjmcd> must not be paying attention - he joined just before the
00:19:02 <ryanlerch> jjmcd: i havent seen it, no...
00:19:07 <ryanlerch> is there a link?
00:19:22 <rudi> I can fill you in afterwards :)
00:19:27 <ryanlerch> okies
00:19:34 <jjmcd> hmmmm, I don't have it offhand. Basically we intend to
capture all changes
00:19:55 <jjmcd> However, I cheat :)
00:20:24 * jjmcd isn't quite the glutton for punishment that ryanlerch is
00:21:04 <jjmcd> OK, that brings us to the end of a very short meeting,
00:21:19 <rudi> jjmcd -- this is what ryanlerch did for RHEL5.4 --
00:21:42 <jjmcd> I saw a planet entry
00:21:47 <jjmcd> That's why I asked
00:21:55 <rudi> (Which is why he's been scarce in Fedoraspace lately ;) )
00:22:16 <rudi> It's /awesome/ --
00:22:19 <jjmcd> ryanlerch, I have a little C prog that compares the F11 and
F12 repos and spits out XML tables
00:23:07 <jjmcd> My main incentive was to reduce translation for all those
minor changes but still capture them
00:23:15 <jjmcd> OK, I guess that's it
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00:24:05 <jjmcd> Thanks everyone
00:24:08 <jjmcd> #endmeeting
#fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda:
Meeting started by jjmcd at 00:00:45 UTC. The full logs are available at
* Roll call (jjmcd, 00:01:06)
* Last week's action items (jjmcd, 00:03:06)
* Status on CMS (jjmcd, 00:10:24)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status (jjmcd,
* Status on CC license rollout (jjmcd, 00:12:00)
* Guide needs (jjmcd, 00:15:25)
* New business (jjmcd, 00:16:27)
Meeting ended at 00:24:08 UTC.
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People Present (lines said)
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* rudi (18)
* ianweller (7)
* ryanlerch (4)
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Remind Translation: Beta Rel Notes POT Coming Tue 2009-09-01 Tue
Generate POT files for all fed-rel-notes.rpm content Tue 2009-09-08 Tue
Remind announce-list & f-deve-announce Thu 2009-09-10 Thu