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Non-JavaScript fallback for docs.fp.o
by Paul W. Frields 11 May '10

11 May '10

Rudi, You had said earlier you were working on providing a non-JS fallback for the docs.fp.o site. Whether that's through the Publican publish feature or an interim change, will this be in place in time for F13 GA? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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Upcoming Schedule Tasks
by John Poelstra 11 May '10

11 May '10

Start End Name Mon 03-May Tue 11-May Create GA Announcement (Docs & Marketing) Fri 07-May Sun 09-May Final Build All Guides: All Languages Fri 07-May Mon 17-May 0-Day rel-notes build updated rpm Fri 07-May Mon 17-May 0-Day rel-notes generate POT Fri 07-May Mon 17-May 0-Day rel-notes update docs.fp.org Mon 10-May Mon 10-May Publish all guides to docs.fp.o (html,html-single,pdf) Tue 11-May Tue 11-May Fedora 13 Final Go/No-Go Meeting (20:00 EST) Wed 12-May Wed 12-May Fedora 13 Final Release Readiness Meeting Mon 17-May Mon 17-May Add translated zero-day updates to docs.fp.org Tue 18-May Tue 18-May Final (GA) Release

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Summer Coding Idea for a Musicians' Guide to Fedora
by Christopher Antila 10 May '10

10 May '10

Hello: I am a Canadian university student who would like to take part in the Fedora Summer Coding process. My academic background is in Music, but I have taken some courses in Compuer Science. My idea is to write a guide for musicians using Fedora (see the idea page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_Coding_2010_ideas_-_Fedora_Musicians'_Guide). The idea, basically, is to get people started with the various programs available in Fedora and Planet CCRMA. The idea page is far from a complete project, so any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. What I need now is a mentor to guide me through the project! Ideally, that task would be split between people from the Docs SIG, and the music community. As before, any comments will be helpful - thank you for reviewing this project. Christopher Antila. N.B. I posted this to the docs, music, and summer-coding-discuss lists to get what seems like the widest applicable audience

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Re: docs Digest, Vol 75, Issue 6
by Garland Binns 09 May '10

09 May '10

Thanks, Ian. -- Garland Binns: Fedora Project Contributor Email: gbinns(a)fedoraproject.org | GPG: 75D114CB Phone: (646) 867-2335 | Fax: (877) 329-3410 Twitter: twitter.com/garlandbinns Wiki: fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:gbinns ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Ian Weller <ian(a)ianweller.org> > To: docs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 21:02:48 -0500 > Subject: Re: Need Assistance > On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 06:23:07PM -0500, Garland Binns wrote: > > Hey All, > > > > I'm trying to work through the "Pages That Need Love" ( > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_need_love) > > > > This week I'm working with this page: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Raw_font_article_material > > > > It hasn't been updated since February of 2009. Below are pages that link > > there: > > > http://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Obsolete_articles_on_fo… > > > > Any advice? > > For check licensing and identifying rendering problems, I would rehash > the information in the IRC log and email provided into a wiki page. > > I'm not sure what to do about the Bengali fonts page. You might email > the fonts(a)l.fp.o mailing list? > > -- > Ian Weller <ian(a)ianweller.org> > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments >

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Need Assistance
by Garland Binns 08 May '10

08 May '10

Hey All, I'm trying to work through the "Pages That Need Love" ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_need_love) This week I'm working with this page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Raw_font_article_material It hasn't been updated since February of 2009. Below are pages that link there: http://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Obsolete_articles_on_fo… Any advice? Thanks! Garland -- Garland Binns: Fedora Project Contributor Email: gbinns(a)fedoraproject.org | GPG: 75D114CB Phone: (646) 867-2335 | Fax: (877) 329-3410 Twitter: twitter.com/garlandbinns Wiki: fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:gbinns

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Re: Release Notes POs - Czech translation
by Paul W. Frields 06 May '10

06 May '10

On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 10:52:27PM +0200, Josef Hrus(ka wrote: > Hi (Paul), > > I submitted an updated po file of the Czech translation of Electonic > Design Assisstans from F13 RN [1] on 3 May about 7 PM to fix an error in > HTML tag shown by a log from a morning build of that day. [2] > > Hopefully, this was the only error in tags I had made during the > translation. But I cannot see the Czech translation of RN even listed on > the Fedora Draft Documentation website. [3] > > Could please someone put an eye on the CZ translation to appear on the > Draft Documentation website? > > Could also someone give me some info what has happend to the CZ > translation regarding (was it included to?) the package for shipment to > release engineering? > > Josef > > [1] > http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=docs/release-notes.git;a=commit;h=adb011… > [2] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/docs/release-notes/cs-CZ/ > [3] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts.html Hi Josef, Thanks for your note! We brought in all the changes that were current as of 2010-05-04 around 0030 UTC, which is about 8:30pm US-EDT. Your translation was building and was included. I haven't had a chance to publish anything on the drafts site, but you just gave me an excellent reminder to do it quickly, so thanks. I'll get the site updated by tomorrow. The translations included were cs-CZ, es-ES, fr-FR, it-IT, nl-NL, pl-PL, pt-PT, sv-SE, uk-UA, and zh-CN. These were all 100% done according to publican's lang_stats command. There was at least one more, ru-RU, which was around 88% and if it, or any other languages, are complete by release day we can likely publish updated zero-day copies. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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Docs Meeting 2010-05-05 Summary
by Paul W. Frields 06 May '10

06 May '10

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-05-05/fedora_docs.2010… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-05-05/fedora_docs.2010… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-05-05/fedora_docs.2010… ===================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora Documentation ===================================== Meeting started by stickster at 23:01:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-05-05/fedora_docs.2010… . Meeting summary --------------- * Meeting facilitator guest star! (stickster, 23:02:15) * rudi is running a meeting tonight, at least for a bit, while stickster gets some dinner (stickster, 23:02:26) * Roll call (stickster, 23:02:29) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting <-- Agenda (stickster, 23:03:47) * last week's action items (rudi, 23:04:48) * ACTION: ke4qqq to post to f-d-l as a final call for input on grouping guides under docs/ (rudi, 23:09:20) * SRPM got built on schedule (rudi, 23:12:02) * ACTION: stickster Fix Live image information and respond to thread pointing to next regular build on fp.o (rudi, 23:13:28) * ACTION: sparks to tak 0K .e the FAD @ SELF discussion to the Docs list (rudi, 23:14:55) * FAD @ SELF discussions continuing (rudi, 23:15:43) * rudi reports anaconda material now backported into IG and IQSG -- both now in translations (rudi, 23:16:43) * rudi reports DG will be completed by GA, but not in time for (complete) translation for F13 (rudi, 23:17:24) * ACTION: -- rudi to find out if perspectival can do with some help on the DG (rudi, 23:18:48) * radsy reports wireless, confined services, selinux user guide on track for GA (rudi, 23:20:24) * beats closed (rudi, 23:20:51) * radsy reports selinux faq on track for GA (rudi, 23:21:13) * Schedule review (rudi, 23:21:37) * likelihood of 1-week slip in GA (rudi, 23:23:16) * Release Notes (rudi, 23:25:52) * Bravo L10N (jjmcd_, 23:27:27) * L10N is *awesome* (rudi, 23:27:28) * stickster would like to revisit our building process after F-13 GA, since we can probably reduce the level of complexity a couple notches by just making a tarball (stickster, 23:28:07) * All other guides (rudi, 23:28:46) * git repo conversion (rudi, 23:31:04) * ACTION: -- ke4qqq to suggest on f-d-l that all guide owners become sponsors on all other guides (rudi, 23:52:48) * Bugs list (rudi, 23:53:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classificatio… <-- 86 bugs here (rudi, 23:53:38) * all other business (rudi, 23:56:53) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2010-May/007584.html (noriko, 23:58:07) * ACTION: rudi to troubleshoot cs-CZ RN (rudi, 23:59:57) * LINK: -- http://publictest8.fedoraproject.org/fedoradocs/public_html/en-US/index.html (rudi, 00:02:20) Meeting ended at 00:05:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * ke4qqq to post to f-d-l as a final call for input on grouping guides under docs/ * stickster Fix Live image information and respond to thread pointing to next regular build on fp.o * sparks to take the FAD @ SELF discussion to the Docs list * -- rudi to find out if perspectival can do with some help on the DG * -- ke4qqq to suggest on f-d-l that all guide owners become sponsors on all other guides * rudi to troubleshoot cs-CZ RN Action Items, by person ----------------------- * ke4qqq * ke4qqq to post to f-d-l as a final call for input on grouping guides under docs/ * -- ke4qqq to suggest on f-d-l that all guide owners become sponsors on all other guides * rudi * -- rudi to find out if perspectival can do with some help on the DG * rudi to troubleshoot cs-CZ RN * stickster * stickster Fix Live image information and respond to thread pointing to next regular build on fp.o * **UNASSIGNED** * sparks to take the FAD @ SELF discussion to the Docs list People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * rudi (101) * jjmcd_ (53) * stickster (42) * ke4qqq (31) * noriko (8) * ardchoille (6) * radsy (6) * zodbot (6) * Emad78 (3) * ianweller (1) * Gearoid (1) * gbinns (1) * quaid (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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publishing group suggestion
by Karsten Wade 06 May '10

06 May '10

11:12 < quaid> ok, here's a thought ... 11:12 < quaid> long tradition is that 'docs' gave full commit access to content; I see people still do that with f'hosted repos 11:12 < quaid> (mostly) 11:13 < quaid> we had publishing separate because it was different, separate, required training to not break, etc. 11:13 < quaid> but if we're going to be publishing websites with publican as the cms (basically) 11:13 < quaid> why not just use 'docs' group as who can publish? What I was also saying is that we have this: CMS for docs.fp.o: * Publican handles publishing and building of content for the web. * FAS handles authentication. * Beacon with DocBook extensions could be the wysiwyg editor. 'docs' group membership could be sufficient for publishing. Why add another group when we have one well populated with all the people we want able to publish immediately? This lowers the barriers a lot for using Publican, but it doesn't give us a CMS that invites the 10x participation that we get through the wiki-like interfaces. Having an easy web authentication layer with a nice WYSIWYG editor (and a publish button) is a very important goal. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41

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Release notes status
by Paul W. Frields 05 May '10

05 May '10

Hi Docs and L10n teams, I just wanted to confirm that fedora-release-notes-13-3.fc13 was accepted into Fedora 13's stable repository and should be appearing in the GA product. It sports a brand-new icon consistent with the look and feel of the icon theme, and includes not five, not eight, but... *10* fully translated versions of the release notes. Thanks to all the Docs people who worked on tools and processes to make sure we were ready to package, and to L10n folks for their usual AMAZING job providing translations for users around the world! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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Upcoming Schedule Tasks
by John Poelstra 05 May '10

05 May '10

Start End Name Wed 18-Nov Tue 04-May Create POT files for All Guides Mon 26-Apr Thu 06-May Daily builds of Final guides for Translation Tue 27-Apr Mon 03-May Build GA release note htmls for Translation Tue 27-Apr Mon 03-May Review and correct GA Release Notes (daily builds html) Mon 03-May Tue 11-May Create GA Announcement (Docs & Marketing) Mon 03-May Wed 05-May Build fedora-release-notes.rpm Tue 04-May Tue 04-May Development: Final Freeze Thu 06-May Thu 06-May Push updated rel-notes RPMs to Updates repo Fri 07-May Sun 09-May Final Build All Guides: All Languages Fri 07-May Mon 17-May 0-Day rel-notes update docs.fp.org Fri 07-May Mon 17-May 0-Day rel-notes build updated rpm Fri 07-May Mon 17-May 0-Day rel-notes generate POT Mon 10-May Mon 10-May Publish all guides to docs.fp.o (html,html-single,pdf) Tue 11-May Tue 11-May Fedora 13 Final Go/No-Go Meeting (20:00 EST) Wed 12-May Wed 12-May Fedora 13 Final Release Readiness Meeting Mon 17-May Mon 17-May Add translated zero-day updates to docs.fp.org Tue 18-May Tue 18-May Final (GA) Release

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