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The last week or so has seen a couple of patches going into fop in the Fedora repositories. I recently became a co-maintainer of fop in EPEL5 and was trying to bring fop into current there. Unfortunately there are many dependency failures there that it's going to be a lot of work to bring it up to where we need it. The actual need, from my point of view, is to get Publican working properly. fop provides the engine for creating PDFs in Publican and is a necessary function for the Fedora Docs project. That said, the current version of Publican in EPEL5 is very old and outdated. Near current version of Publican is already in EPEL6 and I believe fop is in RHEL6 repositories.
I say all that to ask this: Is anyone currently using fop or Publican in EPEL5 or can we get rid of those bits?
I have no problem working to bring fop upto speed in EPEL5 if someone needs it but I'd hate to do all the work if no one is using it.
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On 12/06/2012 05:29 PM, brad.b82 wrote:
> I've been speaking with the infra folks about getting a space for the new-user survey hosted. It looks like we've come to an agreement. I need to check with legal, then learn the fedora-infra way of getting this up. Any additional comments about this is welcome!
> NOTE: after legal takes a look, the temporary location for display purposes will be removed, so if you want to see it as is, please do so asap. I'll send marketing and ambassadors an email for comments after this is at a Fedora location.
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3589 - RFR ticket
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/New_User_Questionnaire - Wiki
> http://bradbailey.uphero.com/survey.html - ~TEMPORARY~ sample that does nothing
> cc: legal(a)fedoraproject.org
Is the survey anonymous?
We are way behind in getting the beta release notes out. They are now
in Bodhi and need karma. Please give them a test and some love.
The RPM includes English, Dutch, Ukranian, Japanese and Chinese.
In release notes directory change section:
For most users, this change will be invisible because the Release Notes
are viewed by selecting the menu choice. However, some users go directly
to the file, or may have their own internal links. For these users,
changing the location without warning before the release could be a
problem, so the Release Notes are not being moved this release.
Beginning with Fedora 18, the Release Notes are stored in
The first paragraph says that it will not be moved "this release", but
the next paragraph says it will be move to
It's a contradictory.
I remember that the first paragraph is for Fedora 17 release notes. It
should be changed now.
I filed a bug.
Fedora Project Contributor
Hey, folks (Jack especially). I have it on my (very long) todo list to
look through the changes to the installation guide and see if I can
contribute anything, but we were talking about this in #anaconda this
morning and I thought I'd outline it for the install guide before I
forget the plan again. Handling of bootloader install is somewhat
different in newUI. This is all about BIOS - UEFI is completely
So what newUI is capable of is either installing the bootloader to a
partition MBR, or not installing the bootloader at all. Currently there
is no option to install bootloader to a partition, which was possible in
oldUI. Installing the bootloader to a partition is done only by those
who multiboot various OSes using a 'chainload' system - they have a
bootloader in the MBR which 'chainloads' bootloaders for each of their
OSes, each of which resides in the / or /boot partition for that OS.
The plan is for those who have such setups to just not install a
bootloader at all, and then do their bootloader configuration manually
post-install. Anyone who for some reason doesn't want a bootloader
installed to an MBR gets to do their own configuration.
In the UI you are able to specify which disk the bootloader should be
installed to (or that it shouldn't be installed at all). You do this on
the 'disk selection' screen - the first screen you see after clicking on
the 'Installation Destination' spoke. You have to click on 'Full disk
summary and options...' and you get a dialog that lets you pick the
target disk for the bootloader. To set it to not install a bootloader at
all, right now, this is the procedure:
"highlight whatever disk has the bootloader check, click the button, and
it'll unset that device for receiving the bootloader. Thus, you should
not get a bootloader installed."
clumens notes that this isn't the best UI, but changing it would break
string freeze. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=867469
If you do not select a target disk, anaconda will default to installing
the bootloader to the MBR of the first disk (of those selected as
'install target disks' on the picker screen) that appears to be a viable
target, in enumeration order (so it'll try sda, then sdb, then sdc, and
so on, and the first one which passes the 'bootloader target' tests gets
the bootloader). This part is unchanged from F17.
Hope that's useful! Thanks.
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora
Ideally, there would be a separate guide for each of the 4 major desktop spins. I know how very frustrating it is to be totally new, and the available documentation in front of me doesn't apply.
I fully understand your point about open ended questions will provide us with more information. As I said on the wiki, most people are more likely to fill something out if they never have to take their hand off the mouse. I really like the idea though. When in doubt, choose both! I think I'll add an "optional" more data field beside/under each question.
> On 12/03/2012 05:26 PM, brad.b82 wrote:
> > I would like to start working on a Migration Guide for New Users. To
> > get to that point, we need to know what issues the new users are
> > facing. To answer that, I came up with a quick New User Questionnaire
> > to collect information. Please take a look at it and bring up your
> > own ideas and suggestions.
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/New_User_Questionnaire
> A migration guide is a good idea. What do you want to focus on - the
> GNOME desktop environment and general tools or something else? You might
> want to talk to pkovar. He is doing some stuff related to GNOME and
> would probably be thrilled to hear from you.
> Your questions are very good. the only improvement I can see is in
> phrasing. I would probably use open questions instead of or in
> combination with Yes/No questions to get more detailed information:
> "What do you do when you want to find and install a program but do not
> know the exact name for? (For example, a program that helps you use your
> digital camera)? "
> "Are you able to find a replacement for the common programs you are
> accustomed to using? How do you go about it?"