Re: Contributing docs for maintaining and creating a Fedora remix Comments

[Aidan Kahrs]

Leslie,
Thank you for the tips. As far as the French editing, I would take that up
with the larger Fedora Docs group. The plan is for the TigerOS team to make
the initial contribution but we cannot commit to long term maintenance as
we are all students and have high turnover within the team.
Thank you.
Sincerely,

Aidan Kahrs
[e-mail]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 8:55 PM Leslie S Satenstein 
wrote:
> I forgot to mention the fine difference between "finished" and "completed"
>
> Finished means dead, disposable, no further action.
> Completed, means, ready for the next stage
>
> Regards
> Leslie*
>
> *Leslie Satenstein*
> *Montréal Québec, Canada*
>
> *From:* Aidan Kahrs 
> *To:* For participants of the Documentation Project <
> [e-mail]>
> *Cc:* Leslie S Satenstein 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Contributing docs for maintaining and creating a Fedora
> remix Comments
>
> Leslie,
> Thank you for the suggestions on phrasing. We will certainly consider them
> and are open to pull requests once the final version has been published.
> Thank you.
> Sincerely,
>
> Aidan Kahrs
> [e-mail]
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 1:04 PM Brian (bex) Exelbierd 
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Leslie S Satenstein <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Brian
> Is it possible for me to get a "text document or libreoffice word
> document?"
>
> The link
> https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/remix-building/blob/master/f/remix-ci.adoc
> leads to an AsciiDoc formatted text document.  Asciidoc is described at
> asciidoctor.org and is the current preferred documentation format.
>
> The author starts by saying using Jenkins.
>
> What is Jenkins and where can I get it or information about it. Not stated
> in the draft.
>
> Jenkins is a CI system.  It is reasonable that readers of this document
> would know this. https://jenkins.io/
>
> Example of correction:
>
> The choice of CentOS was to maximize support time and stay within the RHEL
> family.
> The choice of using CentOS was to maximize support time and to stay within
> the RHEL family.
> I would have written
>
> The decision to use CentOS was to maximize support time and to stay within
> the RHEL family.
>
> I did write you earlier about doing some editing and writing. I would be
> glad to work with authors to proof their writing.
>
> I am sure they would appreciate it.
>
> I presume you can accept updates after go-live.
>
> I don't see why they wouldn't.  I know they would prefer PRs via pagure.io
> .
>
> regards,
>
> bex
>
> Regards
> Leslie*
>
> *Leslie Satenstein*
> *Montréal Québec, Canada*
>
> *From:* Brian (bex) Exelbierd 
> *To:* Development discussions related to Fedora <
> [e-mail]>
> *Cc:* For participants of the Documentation Project <
> [e-mail]>; "[e-mail]" 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:56 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Contributing docs for maintaining and creating a Fedora
> remix
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Neal Gompa  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd
>  wrote:
> > +devel list to attract feedback from other folks in releng or working on
> > other remixes and spins
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Aidan Kahrs  wrote:
> > > Hello.
> > > I know this thread has been kinda quiet the last few days. I wanted to
>
> put
> > > out an update that the draft documentation is finished. I have gotten
>
> input
> > > from my team. I would now like input from people within the docs effort
> > > before I say it is ready to publish.
> > >
> > > The draft docs can be found at
> > > https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/ remix-building/blob/master/f/
>
> remix-ci.adoc
> https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/remix-building/blob/master/f/remix-ci.adoc
> > One comment:
> >
> > 14: Why is this server required to be a CentOS server?  I have no problem
> > with CentOS but we should explain that choice in the context of a Fedora
> > Remix.
>
> My experience is that it _should not_ be anything but a Fedora system.
> It should be at least be the target Fedora version or higher. Ideally,
> you always run the target version's livemedia-creator+Anaconda, which
> is why Koji uses mock to set up the environment and then run it inside
> of there.
>
> In addition, it's a very bad idea to recommend using "createrepo"
> instead of "createrepo_c", due to the former not supporting most of
> Fedora's newer RPM features and potentially weird things happening
> there.
>
> If you're using livecd-creator, you can get away with a lot more,
> since you're no longer sensitive to Anaconda's fragilities and the
> build engine is DNF.
>
> I believe we may be talking about different servers.  The page seems to
> indicate the CentOS server is used to serve the bits.
>
> regards,
>
> bex
>
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