Update for F14 release notes

[Paul W. Frields]

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-release-notes-14.1.2-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-release-notes-14.1.2-3.fc15

I built and pushed packages to updates-testing to address the missing
dependency on /bin/touch (the fix is already found in Rawhide, but
didn't make it to the branched F15 before that happened).

There aren't any content changes, so the deltarpm should be quite
small. Testing and karma contributions would be appreciated.

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[Paul W. Frields]

On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 10:25:21AM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-release-notes-14.1.2-2.fc14
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-release-notes-14.1.2-3.fc15
>  
>  I built and pushed packages to updates-testing to address the missing
>  dependency on /bin/touch (the fix is already found in Rawhide, but
>  didn't make it to the branched F15 before that happened).
>  
>  There aren't any content changes, so the deltarpm should be quite
>  small. Testing and karma contributions would be appreciated. 
It's pushed to testing.  To try it out on Fedora 14 or 15:

$ su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update fedora-release-notes'

To report karma, log in on one of the above URLs (using the Login
button) and post your results.

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[Luigi Votta]

On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 10:43 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 10:25:21AM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-release-notes-14.1.2-2.fc14
>  > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-release-notes-14.1.2-3.fc15
>  > 
>  > I built and pushed packages to updates-testing to address the missing
>  > dependency on /bin/touch (the fix is already found in Rawhide, but
>  > didn't make it to the branched F15 before that happened).
>  > 
>  > There aren't any content changes, so the deltarpm should be quite
>  > small. Testing and karma contributions would be appreciated.
>  
>  It's pushed to testing.  To try it out on Fedora 14 or 15:
>  
>  $ su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update fedora-release-notes'
>  
>  To report karma, log in on one of the above URLs (using the Login
>  button) and post your results.
>  
>  --  
Hi Paul 
I've downloaded and installed on F15. No problem encountered (or
perhaps, the link on the dash doesn't load the doc in firefox).
I would give my karma but I don't know what to test ...
Can you give me some hints? :-)

Thank you
Luigi

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[Paul W. Frields]

On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 08:30:21PM +0100, Luigi Votta wrote:
>  On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 10:43 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  > On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 10:25:21AM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-release-notes-14.1.2-2.fc14
>  > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-release-notes-14.1.2-3.fc15
>  > > 
>  > > I built and pushed packages to updates-testing to address the missing
>  > > dependency on /bin/touch (the fix is already found in Rawhide, but
>  > > didn't make it to the branched F15 before that happened).
>  > > 
>  > > There aren't any content changes, so the deltarpm should be quite
>  > > small. Testing and karma contributions would be appreciated.
>  > 
>  > It's pushed to testing.  To try it out on Fedora 14 or 15:
>  > 
>  > $ su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update fedora-release-notes'
>  > 
>  > To report karma, log in on one of the above URLs (using the Login
>  > button) and post your results.
>  > 
>  > -- 
>  Hi Paul 
>  I've downloaded and installed on F15. No problem encountered (or
>  perhaps, the link on the dash doesn't load the doc in firefox).
>  I would give my karma but I don't know what to test ...
>  Can you give me some hints? :-) 
The bug's not tremendously easy to test.  You have to set up a box or
a virtual guest using a very minimal install, plus
fedora-release-notes.  The install has to be so bare that it doesn't
include yum, in fact.  (Which makes me feel kind of silly fixing it,
but whatever.)  The bug is that if someone didn't include the
coreutils package, which contains /bin/touch, then a RPM %post script
error happens when fedora-release-notes is installed.  The package
update fixes this problem, even though the other content doesn't
change.

If you find the package is still usable/readable per normal after the
update, then you can probably vote +1 karma in good conscience.  It
would be nice if some other intrepid soul checked that the bug is
fixed, though! :-)

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[Bruno Wolff III]

On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 15:22:06 -0500,
  "Paul W. Frields" <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  The bug's not tremendously easy to test.  You have to set up a
> box or
>  a virtual guest using a very minimal install, plus
>  fedora-release-notes.  The install has to be so bare that it doesn't
>  include yum, in fact.  (Which makes me feel kind of silly fixing it,
>  but whatever.)  The bug is that if someone didn't include the
>  coreutils package, which contains /bin/touch, then a RPM %post script
>  error happens when fedora-release-notes is installed.  The package
>  update fixes this problem, even though the other content doesn't
>  change. 
This can happen when building live images even when coreutils is in the
package list. fedora-release can get installed before coreutils without
a requires(pre). I don't know whether the script breaking is a big deal or not.
If it is the bug isn't hypothetical. I know I saw the error message when
building some live images.

[Paul W. Frields]

On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 03:19:36PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>  On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 15:22:06 -0500,
>    "Paul W. Frields" <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > The bug's not tremendously easy to test.  You have to set up a box or
>  > a virtual guest using a very minimal install, plus
>  > fedora-release-notes.  The install has to be so bare that it doesn't
>  > include yum, in fact.  (Which makes me feel kind of silly fixing it,
>  > but whatever.)  The bug is that if someone didn't include the
>  > coreutils package, which contains /bin/touch, then a RPM %post script
>  > error happens when fedora-release-notes is installed.  The package
>  > update fixes this problem, even though the other content doesn't
>  > change.
>  
>  This can happen when building live images even when coreutils is in the
>  package list. fedora-release can get installed before coreutils without
>  a requires(pre). I don't know whether the script breaking is a big deal or not.
>  If it is the bug isn't hypothetical. I know I saw the error message when
>  building some live images. 
This is good information Bruno, thanks.  If this were killing live
images regularly, I think we'd know it since fedora-release-notes is
generally included on most of the nightlies.  I believe the /bin/touch
is simply used to ensure the icon cache is updated.  The fact that the
cache still works fine even when the scriptlet fails is probably due
to it running correctly multiple times after coreutils *is* around.

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[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 11:38:58 -0500,
  "Paul W. Frields" <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  This is good information Bruno, thanks.  If this were killing live
>  images regularly, I think we'd know it since fedora-release-notes is
>  generally included on most of the nightlies.  I believe the /bin/touch
>  is simply used to ensure the icon cache is updated.  The fact that the
>  cache still works fine even when the scriptlet fails is probably due
>  to it running correctly multiple times after coreutils *is* around. 
Yes. fedora-release-notes is not the only package to have had this issue.
This kind of error is actually how I got sucked into officially maintaining
the games spin. I saw these errors when doing custom games spin builds and
asked about them and people said I should take over support of the games spin.
I filed a number of bugs for these as I ran across them. Even if they end
up not breaking the build, they do cause confusion when people see error
reports and don't know whether or not they are safe to ignore.

It's an easy bug to miss as you generally only see them when building live
spins and not even always for those.