CC BY-SA announcement drafts (also: holy crap ian did something!)

[Ian Weller]

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ianweller/Creative_Commons_press_release

These are really crappy. Help make them better. Maybe we should combine
them, I don't know.

-- 
Ian Weller <ian(a)ianweller.org&gt;
  "Why, a four-year-old could understand this report.
   Find me a four-year-old child.
   I can't make head or tail out of it." -- Groucho Marx, "Duck Soup"

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 09/01/2009 03:04 AM, Ian Weller wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ianweller/Creative_Commons_press_release
>  
>  These are really crappy. Help make them better. Maybe we should combine
>  them, I don't know. 
Afaik, we specifically picked the "unported" version rather than the U.S
specific version. Am I wrong?

Rahul

[Richard Fontana]

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:04:21 +0530
Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:

>  On 09/01/2009 03:04 AM, Ian Weller wrote:
>  > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ianweller/Creative_Commons_press_release
>  > 
>  > These are really crappy. Help make them better. Maybe we should
>  > combine them, I don't know.
>  
>  Afaik, we specifically picked the "unported" version rather than the
>  U.S specific version. Am I wrong? 
You are correct, sir.

- RF

[Ian Weller]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 05:44:12PM -0400, Richard Fontana wrote:
>  On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:04:21 +0530
>  Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > On 09/01/2009 03:04 AM, Ian Weller wrote:
>  > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ianweller/Creative_Commons_press_release
>  > > 
>  > > These are really crappy. Help make them better. Maybe we should
>  > > combine them, I don't know.
>  > 
>  > Afaik, we specifically picked the "unported" version rather than the
>  > U.S specific version. Am I wrong?
>  
>  You are correct, sir.
>   
And now, the mantra of the wiki:

"Fix it!" :)

-- Your Wiki Czar

-- 
Ian Weller <ian(a)ianweller.org&gt;
  "Why, a four-year-old could understand this report.
   Find me a four-year-old child.
   I can't make head or tail out of it." -- Groucho Marx, "Duck Soup"

[Karsten Wade]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 04:34:39PM -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ianweller/Creative_Commons_press_release
>  
>  These are really crappy. Help make them better. Maybe we should combine
>  them, I don't know. 
I threw some stuff in to highlight that our content is more than
distro-focused.

Pretty good stuff.  It's short, but why be more?

Marketing might want to add some fluff, which is OK, too.

- Karsten
-- 
Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener
http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
AD0E0C41

[Mel Chua]

On 09/04/2009 07:57 PM, Karsten Wade wrote:
>  On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 04:34:39PM -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ianweller/Creative_Commons_press_release 
>  Marketing might want to add some fluff, which is OK, too. 
Marketing fluff added. ;)

How is this press release getting released, when, and where-to? Sorry I 
haven't been able to keep up with this discussion previously.

Specifically, I added:

* The standard "this is a press release!" headers ("FOR IMMEDIATE 
RELEASE", location/date before the body text)

* A headline (Fedora Project relicenses content to CC-BY-SA)

* A boilerplate snip of org info at the bottom, yanked from 
http://fedoraproject.org/ (do we have a more official one to use for 
press releases? I couldn't find one.)

* A shiny quote from Ian (this just in from IRC)

* A contact info section

* ### at the bottom, which is PRspeak for "end of press release"

(For an example of what a professional press release looks like, see 
http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2009/fedora11.html - you'll 
see all these elements in there.)

It still needs:

* filling in of contact information at the bottom - Marketing folks, how 
we want to handle press releases is probably something we want to figure 
out in general at some point.

* copyediting (I suck at making sure spelling/grammar/etc is 100% 
correct; my quick pass usually gets things to 90-95%)

* more nice quotes, perhaps from Sparks or quaid or stickster - 
something like... "This relicensing effort will enable us to 
$list_of_awesomeness, we'd like to thank $these_people," said $name, 
$impressive-sounding-title. "$shiny_media_soundbite!"

Docs folks, if you want more help with this, can you shoot us a ticket 
(https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/newticket) and summarize this 
email thread in the comments so that we have a bit of context?

--Mel

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 09/05/2009 05:27 AM, Karsten Wade wrote:
>  On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 04:34:39PM -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ianweller/Creative_Commons_press_release
> >
> > These are really crappy. Help make them better. Maybe we should combine
> > them, I don't know.
>  
>  I threw some stuff in to highlight that our content is more than
>  distro-focused.
>  
>  Pretty good stuff.  It's short, but why be more?
>  
>  Marketing might want to add some fluff, which is OK, too. 
Added a couple of sentences on why. I would prefer we explicitly list
what all is being re-licensed:

* Fedora Project Documentation
* Fedora Project wiki

Anything else?

Rahul

[John J. McDonough]

What about throwing in something along the lines of:

"The Fedora Project, which has traditionally had among the best 
documentation around, has recenty been expanding and updating it's 
documentation, including updated Install and User guides, and a new Security 
Guide, plus more.  This is content that others might well make use of.  We 
realized that our older license would not allow this sharing as well as 
CC-bySA.  We understand that if others can improve their documentation by 
borrowing part of ours, the entire community benefits.  This made the 
decision to change to something more compatible an obvious one."

Too long, but we should say something like that.

--McD