Asking again, can we update the wiki login page?

[Ian Kelling]

My last email got no reply.

Elaborating on why I sent it: Debian, arch, ubuntu, wikipedia,
etc, all have links from their login page to register for the
wiki and fix a forgotten password. Fedora doesn't. It obviously
should. Instead, we have a link to a very long article which
contains links a link to a different registration page, which is
easy to miss, and it gives the impression that you should
spend 30 minutes reading very boring page before contributing
to the wiki.

I do not have the wiki permissions to fix this. To fix it,
give me permissions, or someone who has them should edit
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Loginprompt to include
this: [[/NewAccount| Create a new Fedora Account]] and this
[https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/resetpass Forgot
Password?]

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno gio, 29/10/2015 alle 01.04 -0700, Ian Kelling ha scritto:
>  My last email got no reply. 
Hello Ian,

>  
>  Elaborating on why I sent it: Debian, arch, ubuntu, wikipedia,
>  etc, all have links from their login page to register for the
>  wiki and fix a forgotten password. Fedora doesn't. It obviously
>  should. Instead, we have a link to a very long article which
>  contains links a link to a different registration page, which is
>  easy to miss, and it gives the impression that you should
>  spend 30 minutes reading very boring page before contributing
>  to the wiki. 
You have to log in the wiki with your FAS account, I don't see any
issue about this. Am I wrong?

>  
>  I do not have the wiki permissions to fix this. To fix it,
>  give me permissions, or someone who has them should edit
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Loginprompt to include
>  this: [[/NewAccount| Create a new Fedora Account]] and this
>  [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/resetpass Forgot
>  Password?] 
This is a link to a FAS page, nothing more. If you log in with your FAS
account, you'll be able to edit it.

Is there anything I missed?

See you.

Gabri.

[Pete Travis]

On 10/29/2015 03:04 AM, Ian Kelling wrote:
>  My last email got no reply.
>
>  Elaborating on why I sent it: Debian, arch, ubuntu, wikipedia,
>  etc, all have links from their login page to register for the
>  wiki and fix a forgotten password. Fedora doesn't. It obviously
>  should. Instead, we have a link to a very long article which
>  contains links a link to a different registration page, which is
>  easy to miss, and it gives the impression that you should
>  spend 30 minutes reading very boring page before contributing
>  to the wiki.
>
>  I do not have the wiki permissions to fix this. To fix it,
>  give me permissions, or someone who has them should edit
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Loginprompt to include
>  this: [[/NewAccount| Create a new Fedora Account]] and this
>  [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/resetpass Forgot
>  Password?] 
Good call, I like it.  I don't have edit permissions on that page,
either.  This problem needs more Ians on it!

-- Pete

[Gabriele Trombini]

Il giorno gio, 29/10/2015 alle 08.04 -0500, Pete Travis ha scritto:
>  On 10/29/2015 03:04 AM, Ian Kelling wrote:
>  > My last email got no reply.
>  > 
>  > Elaborating on why I sent it: Debian, arch, ubuntu, wikipedia,
>  > etc, all have links from their login page to register for the
>  > wiki and fix a forgotten password. Fedora doesn't. It obviously
>  > should. Instead, we have a link to a very long article which
>  > contains links a link to a different registration page, which is
>  > easy to miss, and it gives the impression that you should
>  > spend 30 minutes reading very boring page before contributing
>  > to the wiki.
>  > 
>  > I do not have the wiki permissions to fix this. To fix it,
>  > give me permissions, or someone who has them should edit
>  > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Loginprompt to include
>  > this: [[/NewAccount| Create a new Fedora Account]] and this
>  > [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/resetpass Forgot
>  > Password?]
>  
>  Good call, I like it.  I don't have edit permissions on that page,
>  either.  This problem needs more Ians on it!
>  
>  -- Pete 
Yes true,
my fault, I didn't try to write in. 
That's what I was missing..

See you.

Gabri

[Neville A. Cross]

On Thu, 2015-10-29 at 08:04 -0500, Pete Travis wrote:
>  On 10/29/2015 03:04 AM, Ian Kelling wrote:
>  > My last email got no reply.
>  > 
>  > Elaborating on why I sent it: Debian, arch, ubuntu, wikipedia,
>  > etc, all have links from their login page to register for the
>  > wiki and fix a forgotten password. Fedora doesn't. It obviously
>  > should. Instead, we have a link to a very long article which
>  > contains links a link to a different registration page, which is
>  > easy to miss, and it gives the impression that you should
>  > spend 30 minutes reading very boring page before contributing
>  > to the wiki.
>  > 
>  > I do not have the wiki permissions to fix this. To fix it,
>  > give me permissions, or someone who has them should edit
>  > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Loginprompt to include
>  > this: [[/NewAccount| Create a new Fedora Account]] and this
>  > [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/resetpass Forgot
>  > Password?]
>  
>  Good call, I like it.  I don't have edit permissions on that page,
>  either.  This problem needs more Ians on it!
>  
>  -- Pete 

I like it too. As we use a centralized authentication system named FAS,
if you need to recover your pass, you should be redirected to FAS where
you actually are going to get reset your pass instead of reading how to
get there. 

Neville

[Ryan Lerch]

On 10/30/2015 03:06 AM, Neville A. Cross wrote:
>  On Thu, 2015-10-29 at 08:04 -0500, Pete Travis wrote:
> > On 10/29/2015 03:04 AM, Ian Kelling wrote:
> >> My last email got no reply.
> >>
> >> Elaborating on why I sent it: Debian, arch, ubuntu, wikipedia,
> >> etc, all have links from their login page to register for the
> >> wiki and fix a forgotten password. Fedora doesn't. It obviously
> >> should. Instead, we have a link to a very long article which
> >> contains links a link to a different registration page, which is
> >> easy to miss, and it gives the impression that you should
> >> spend 30 minutes reading very boring page before contributing
> >> to the wiki.
> >>
> >> I do not have the wiki permissions to fix this. To fix it,
> >> give me permissions, or someone who has them should edit
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Loginprompt to include
> >> this: [[/NewAccount| Create a new Fedora Account]] and this
> >> [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/resetpass Forgot
> >> Password?]
> > Good call, I like it.  I don't have edit permissions on that page,
> > either.  This problem needs more Ians on it!
> >
> > -- Pete
>
>  I like it too. As we use a centralized authentication system named FAS,
>  if you need to recover your pass, you should be redirected to FAS where
>  you actually are going to get reset your pass instead of reading how to
>  get there.
>
>  Neville
>  
+1 for updating that text to be something more useful

the websites team should be able to help you (either by getting the 
perms, or putting you in contact with someone that has them)

you can file a ticket for them here:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/

cheers,
ryanlerch