fresh leader

[Karsten Wade]

Thanks all for your thoughtful responses about leadership for this
project.

From that discussion I saw a reasonable consensus that was both good
and fair.  We just approved that consensus in the Docs meeting.

For the remainder of Fedora 11 release, I'm asking Eric Christensen
(Sparks) to step up as leader for the Fedora Documentation Project.
In essence, I am appointing him as a replacement, with the full
approval of all the people who usually show up to meetings and
discuss/approve stuff.

After Fedora 11 releases, we'll have a general election in this
project.  We can decide between now and then exactly what we are doing
-- electing one person, a council, for how long are the terms, etc.
Anyone who doesn't care about this stuff can just ignore those
threads. (Seriously.)

Rotating leadership more frequently is a good idea for this project.
We can give more of you a chance to get the experience and shape Docs
with your enthusiasm.

IMO, we've never had a stronger and more passionate group of
contributors in Docs.  This is a perfect time for new leadership to
emerge and take over.  So many are capable and interested in making
this project better and more successful.

As I said before, I'm not going anywhere; I'm just doing what is long
overdue so I can be more productive as a Docs contributor and this
project can improve through the art of change. :)

- Karsten
-- 
Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener
http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
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[Eric Christensen]

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Thank you, Karsten, for thinking I have what it takes to lead this most
excellent group.  Now I guess we'll see if I actually do!

I know I'll be asking not only Karsten and Paul for assistance but also
every member of this project.  We have some work ahead of us that needs
our attention:

* Release notes[1]
* New CMS to bring up and provide training/documentation for the rest of
Fedora
* The many guides that are in progress
* The wiki gardening
* Various projects on the task table[2]

Of the above projects I'm asking Ryan Lerch (ryanlerch) and John
McDonough (jjmcd) to head up the Release Notes and Ian Weller
(ianweller) to continue his leadership of the wiki.

Thanks for everyone's hard work.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats
[2]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings#Task...


Thanks,
Eric Christensen
Fedora Docs Project

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Karsten Wade wrote:
>  Thanks all for your thoughtful responses about leadership for this
>  project.
>  
>  From that discussion I saw a reasonable consensus that was both good
>  and fair.  We just approved that consensus in the Docs meeting.
>  
>  For the remainder of Fedora 11 release, I'm asking Eric Christensen
>  (Sparks) to step up as leader for the Fedora Documentation Project.
>  In essence, I am appointing him as a replacement, with the full
>  approval of all the people who usually show up to meetings and
>  discuss/approve stuff.
>  
>  After Fedora 11 releases, we'll have a general election in this
>  project.  We can decide between now and then exactly what we are doing
>  -- electing one person, a council, for how long are the terms, etc.
>  Anyone who doesn't care about this stuff can just ignore those
>  threads. (Seriously.)
>  
>  Rotating leadership more frequently is a good idea for this project.
>  We can give more of you a chance to get the experience and shape Docs
>  with your enthusiasm.
>  
>  IMO, we've never had a stronger and more passionate group of
>  contributors in Docs.  This is a perfect time for new leadership to
>  emerge and take over.  So many are capable and interested in making
>  this project better and more successful.
>  
>  As I said before, I'm not going anywhere; I'm just doing what is long
>  overdue so I can be more productive as a Docs contributor and this
>  project can improve through the art of change. :)
>  
>  - Karsten
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Rampoing up for F11

[John J. McDonough]

Eric, this is really directed at you and Ryan, but I thought the response 
might be worthwhile for other beat writers.

I suspect it is past time to start clearing out the F10 release notes from 
the wiki and ramping up for F11.  But there are some questions that occur:

1) First, obviously, it is really time?

2) Paul mentioned an update release of F10 Release Notes.  Should we be 
planning that?  Did it sneak by me?  Are we going to pass on it this time?

3) In some places (especially Devel Tools) we had lots of transclusions 
which gave Paul all kind of fits.  For F11, many of those fragments don't 
even look like they will be needed.  As we flatten the files, should we just 
rename the old entries to, for example, Archive:Docs/Beats/Devel/Tools/Emacs

4) I gather alpha RNs are really only major, major changes.  I see few/none 
of those on my beats, BUT, there are some changes that are a really big deal 
to those affected.  How should we make those calls?

Hey, nobody said it would be easy.

--McD

Rampoing up for F11

[Eric Christensen]

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John J. McDonough wrote:
>  1) First, obviously, it is really time? 
Yes, it's time to
get rolling on F11.

>  2) Paul mentioned an update release of F10 Release Notes.  Should we
> be
>  planning that?  Did it sneak by me?  Are we going to pass on it this time? 
Maybe. 
I missed that comment.  I'm not sure when we would do an update.
 I think we should be concentrating on getting F11 ready to go but if we
have anything to update F10's notes then lets do it.

>  3) In some places (especially Devel Tools) we had lots of
> transclusions
>  which gave Paul all kind of fits.  For F11, many of those fragments
>  don't even look like they will be needed.  As we flatten the files,
>  should we just rename the old entries to, for example,
>  Archive:Docs/Beats/Devel/Tools/Emacs 
I thought I flattened all the files (might not
have changed the links in
the table).  If you don't need it just throw it in Archive:.

>  4) I gather alpha RNs are really only major, major changes.  I see
>  few/none of those on my beats, BUT, there are some changes that are a
>  really big deal to those affected.  How should we make those calls? 
Go with your
gut.  When in doubt write them up.  We can edit them out in
the end product if necessary but I'd rather have to cut stuff rather
than not have it.

>  
>  Hey, nobody said it would be easy. 
As I'm finding out as well.  I think Ryan
will be a big help in this
area, though.
>  
>  --McD
>   
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[Basil Mohamed Gohar]

On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 17:46 -0500, Eric Christensen wrote:
>  Thank you, Karsten, for thinking I have what it takes to lead this
> most
>  excellent group.  Now I guess we'll see if I actually do!
>  
>  I know I'll be asking not only Karsten and Paul for assistance but also
>  every member of this project.  We have some work ahead of us that needs
>  our attention:
>  
>  * Release notes[1]
>  * New CMS to bring up and provide training/documentation for the rest of
>  Fedora
>  * The many guides that are in progress
>  * The wiki gardening
>  * Various projects on the task table[2]
>  
>  Of the above projects I'm asking Ryan Lerch (ryanlerch) and John
>  McDonough (jjmcd) to head up the Release Notes and Ian Weller
>  (ianweller) to continue his leadership of the wiki.
>  
>  Thanks for everyone's hard work.
>  
>  [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats
>  [2]
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings#Task...
>  
>  
>  Thanks,
>  Eric Christensen
>  Fedora Docs Project 
 ^ Leader, 

My sincerest condolences, Eric.  ;)

I've been a leader for a few community projects before, and being
chosen, elected, or appointed for such a task is nothing to be
congratulated for.  It's not a privilege bestowed upon you, but rather,
a trust placed in your care.

However, I extend to you the hand of support where & whenever I can, and
I hope that the others involved in the Docs project & Fedora at large do
the same.  I am confident in the decision of Karsten and the others that
selected you and that they did the right thing, and with the previous
leader now at your service aside the rest of us, the transition should
be quite painless.

Best wishes to a prosperous run as the leader of the Fedora
Documentation Project!
 
________________________________________________________________________

Basil Mohamed Gohar
abu_hurayrah(a)hidayahonline.org
www.basilgohar.com