[Bug 595695] New: Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.

Summary: Direct links to RNs broken.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

           Summary: Direct links to RNs broken.
           Product: Fedora Documentation
           Version: devel
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: medium
          Priority: low
         Component: docs-requests
        AssignedTo: eric(a)christensenplace.us
        ReportedBy: eric(a)christensenplace.us
         QAContact: fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com
                CC: stickster(a)gmail.com, kwade(a)redhat.com
    Classification: Fedora


Description of problem:
* Previously, the release notes were located at
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/
* Their location has changed to release specific URLs.
* A link to the release notes is provided in fedora-bookmarks.
* fedora-bookmarks are imported by the browser only on *first launch* so as to
not overwrite user modifications.

The new bookmarks layout causes two problems:
1. Nobody filed a fedora-bookmarks bug so Fedora 13 (and anyone on F-11 or F-12
etc) will default to going to http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/
which is a 404. Since the bookmarks can only be imported on first launch, we
cannot push an update to fix this if the user has launched the browser (which
is extremely likely).
2. Even if I were to fix the bookmarks page to point directly to a specific
release version (which again would take effect only if someone would yum update
before launching Firefox), then if anyone updated to F-14, the bookmark would
not change and would still point to e.g. F-13.

So, I do not think that we should put version specific information into our
bookmarks URLs. To solve both of the above problems, I believe we should try to
do some User-Agent detection and redirection. Fedora browsers have an RPM NVR
attached to them.

For example:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; es-ES; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100517
Fedora/3.6.4-1.fc13 Firefox/3.6.4

This tells us that the user's installed language is es-ES and it's a Fedora
browser, specifically running F-13. We should then redirect queries to
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/ to
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/es-ES/Fedora/13/html/Release_Notes/index.html

If we cannot figure any information out about the Fedora release or language
(or there are no relnotes in that language), I propose the default redirect
should be to the en-US version of the latest Fedora release notes.

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the QA contact for the bug.

[Bug 595695] Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

--- Comment #1 from Eric Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us&gt; 2010-05-25 07:55:50
EDT ---
Above ticket moved from https://fedorahosted.org/docs/ticket/1.

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the QA contact for the bug.

[Bug 595695] Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

Eric Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us&gt; changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |r.landmann(a)redhat.com
               Flag|                            |needinfo?(r.landmann@redhat
                   |                            |.com)

--- Comment #2 from Eric Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us&gt; 2010-07-06 23:20:14
EDT ---
Rudi: Has this been remedied, now?

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the QA contact for the bug.

[Bug 595695] Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

Ruediger Landmann <rlandman(a)redhat.com&gt; changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |MODIFIED
               Flag|needinfo?(r.landmann@redhat |
                   |.com)                       |

--- Comment #3 from Ruediger Landmann <rlandman(a)redhat.com&gt; 2010-07-06 23:44:09 EDT
---
Redirects are in place to take requests for generic titles and redirect them to
the English HTML versions of the F13 documents, so:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/

redirects to 

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/13/html/Release_Notes/

Since every version of the Release Notes is accessible from every documentation
page now, I think this is basically fixed.

To complete the fix, I think we should remove the server-side redirects sooner
rather than later so that the website's own logic can redirect visitors to
documentation in their own languages.

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the QA contact for the bug.

[Bug 595695] Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

--- Comment #4 from Eric Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us&gt; 2010-07-07 08:32:48
EDT ---
Does the current website have such logic to do the redirect based on language?

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the QA contact for the bug.

[Bug 595695] Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

--- Comment #5 from Ruediger Landmann <rlandman(a)redhat.com&gt; 2010-07-07 18:35:11 EDT
---
(In reply to comment #4)
>  Does the current website have such logic to do the redirect based on
> language?     
Yes! That's been in place right from the start. It's the reason why we needed
to implement the links to untranslated versions of the docs, since visitors
with their locale set to (for example) Spanish were getting redirected to the
Spanish menu and then not realising that books that had not been translated
even existed at all.

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the QA contact for the bug.

[Bug 595695] Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

Eric Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us&gt; changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
               Flag|                            |needinfo?(r.landmann@redhat
                   |                            |.com)

--- Comment #6 from Eric Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us&gt; 2010-07-08 10:35:26
EDT ---
Okay, so we are now ready to start removing the redirects?

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the QA contact for the bug.

[Bug 595695] Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

Eric Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us&gt; changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
         AssignedTo|eric(a)christensenplace.us    |r.landmann(a)redhat.com

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the QA contact for the bug.

[Bug 595695] Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

Eric Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us&gt; changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
               Flag|                            |needinfo?(r.landmann@redhat
                   |                            |.com)

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the QA contact for the bug.

[Bug 595695] Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|stickster(a)gmail.com         |

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the QA contact for the bug.

[Bug 595695] Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt; changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|kwade(a)redhat.com            |

--- Comment #7 from Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt; 2011-12-13 22:49:20 EST ---
Removing myself for these bug components as I'm either no longer involved in
that aspect of the project, or no longer care to watch this particular bug.
Sorry if you are caught in a maelstrom of bug changes as a result!

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the QA contact for the bug.

[Bug 595695] Direct links to RNs broken.

[Red Hat Bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595695

Eric Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us&gt; changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|MODIFIED                    |CLOSED
         Resolution|---                         |CURRENTRELEASE
              Flags|needinfo?(r.landmann@redhat |
                   |.com)                       |
              Flags|needinfo?(r.landmann@redhat |
                   |.com)                       |
        Last Closed|                            |2012-08-31 16:10:35

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the QA Contact for the bug.