Does readme-live-image get included in some Fedora package?

[Bruno Wolff III]

The live base kickstart file used to build live cd images tries to copy in
/usr/share/doc/HTML/readme-live-image/en_US/readme-live-image-en_US.txt which
presumably used to be installed on Fedora systems as part of some package
that was normally installed.

Currently a warning is generated and the documentation doesn't get added to
the live image. (This is bug 546909.)

I am trying to figure out what the correct fix is. If readme-live-image doesn't
end up in any packages now (it definitely seems to be getting updated as
part of the Fedora Docs effort), then I'll just get rid of the code that
tries to include it. If it is packaged, I'm hoping to hear of the package
so I can get it added as a dependency to livecd-tools and refer to the
current location that it would be stored in.

I was hoping someone from the docs team might be able to help me out with this.

Thanks.

[John J. McDonough]

On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 16:29 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>  The live base kickstart file used to build live cd images tries to
> copy in
>  /usr/share/doc/HTML/readme-live-image/en_US/readme-live-image-en_US.txt which
>  presumably used to be installed on Fedora systems as part of some package
>  that was normally installed.
>  
>  Currently a warning is generated and the documentation doesn't get added to
>  the live image. (This is bug 546909.)
>  
>  I am trying to figure out what the correct fix is. If readme-live-image doesn't
>  end up in any packages now (it definitely seems to be getting updated as
>  part of the Fedora Docs effort), then I'll just get rid of the code that
>  tries to include it. If it is packaged, I'm hoping to hear of the package
>  so I can get it added as a dependency to livecd-tools and refer to the
>  current location that it would be stored in.
>  
>  I was hoping someone from the docs team might be able to help me out with this.
>  
>  Thanks. 
Bruno

Readme-live-image was one of a number of documents which were removed
because they were hidden away and had no apparent way to find them.  We
further assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that a user needing
readme-live-image didn't yet have Fedora installed and thus wouldn't be
reading it from the installation but rather online.  Once you are
actually running the live image it seemed a little late to be telling
you how to make it, and it seemed that the odds of actually finding it
were pretty low.

Once upon a time (pre-FC6 maybe?) this document and several others were
in the root directory of the installation CD where there was a chance
they might be read pre-installation.  Back at that time the document was
also not available at docs.fedoraproject.org.

We don't object to packaging the document, we just didn't see the point.
If there is a need to have that available in a package, we would be
happy to make it so.

--McD

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 19:04:28 -0400,
  "John J. McDonough" <wb8rcr(a)arrl.net&gt; wrote:
>  
>  We don't object to packaging the document, we just didn't see the point. 
That seems reasonable to me. I'll remove the attempt to copy it from the
live base ks file. That will take care of the issue.

Thanks.

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 06:08:49PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>  On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 19:04:28 -0400,
>    "John J. McDonough" <wb8rcr(a)arrl.net&gt; wrote:
>  > 
>  > We don't object to packaging the document, we just didn't see the point.
>  
>  That seems reasonable to me. I'll remove the attempt to copy it from the
>  live base ks file. That will take care of the issue.
>  
>  Thanks. 
Is there any desire to genericize and maintain this documentation as
part of the livecd-tools themselves?  Is the documentation itself
useful to a user who receives the live media?


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[Bruno Wolff III]

On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 09:59:26 -0400,
  "Paul W. Frields" <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 06:08:49PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>  > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 19:04:28 -0400,
>  >   "John J. McDonough" <wb8rcr(a)arrl.net&gt; wrote:
>  > > 
>  > > We don't object to packaging the document, we just didn't see the
> point.
>  > 
>  > That seems reasonable to me. I'll remove the attempt to copy it from the
>  > live base ks file. That will take care of the issue.
>  > 
>  > Thanks.
>  
>  Is there any desire to genericize and maintain this documentation as
>  part of the livecd-tools themselves?  Is the documentation itself
>  useful to a user who receives the live media? 
I'm probably not the best person to ask about that. I was mostly interested
in fixing the compose error. In the short term removing the cp seems to
be the reasonable course as there isn't any file to copy. If that changed
we could cartainly put a replacement back.

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 09:59:26 -0400,
  "Paul W. Frields" <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 06:08:49PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>  > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 19:04:28 -0400,
>  >   "John J. McDonough" <wb8rcr(a)arrl.net&gt; wrote:
>  > > 
>  > > We don't object to packaging the document, we just didn't see the
> point.
>  > 
>  > That seems reasonable to me. I'll remove the attempt to copy it from the
>  > live base ks file. That will take care of the issue.
>  > 
>  > Thanks.
>  
>  Is there any desire to genericize and maintain this documentation as
>  part of the livecd-tools themselves?  Is the documentation itself
>  useful to a user who receives the live media? 
I did add this to the standing Spins SIG agenda, so that the question will
eventually get asked of the right people. I noted this thread, so that
we know to come back to docs if it is decided that it would be a good
thing to do.