[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Fwd: New version of The Electric VLSI Design System
by Aanjhan R
FYI.
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From: Steven Rubin <strubin(a)staticfreesoft.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Subject: New version of The Electric VLSI Design System
To: discuss-gnu-electric(a)gnu.org
Cc: info-gnu(a)gnu.org, electricvlsi(a)googlegroups.com
I am pleased to announce that version 8.08 of the Electric VLSI
Design System is now available.
This release includes many improvements and bug fixes. Notable
improvements include a faster ERC well check and a new fill generator.
Visit us at www.staticfreesoft.com for downloads and documentation.
As always, the source code is free.
Happy designing!
-Steven Rubin
P.S. A new feature on the Static Free Software website is a map
showing the location of all Electric users in the world:
http://www.staticfreesoft.com/electricLocations.html
Find yourself and see who is near you. I welcome all comments and
updates to this page.
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[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: Urgent: Fedora Electronic Lab + Educational SW
by Chitlesh GOORAH
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin <danishka(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Chitlesh,
>
> How are you?
> Next week I have two workshops for school teachers and it mainly for
> non-tech and windows based school teachers . Basically I will give them a
> hands on training for how to install Fedora, updates, and relevant
> educational packages.
>
> More over I will do few more workshops for the next year as well.
>
> Can you do me a favor?
>
> I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
> As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
> Could you make a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational sofwares.
> Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.
>
> I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
> Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
> Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational software.
>
> * Why I can't do it myself?
> Here I have a poor ADSL connectivity.
> So, running a script and downloading hole stuff for trial and error is much
> difficult.
>
> So, pls help me. I really want to spread FEL with other Fedora stuff. :)
>
> Waiting for a positive response.
>
> Best Regards,
> Danishka
>
Dear Danishka,
I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.
If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
educational software.
Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
yum install any electronic software.
Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
- I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
- the use of educational software is vast and targets various
categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.
Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
for such a spin through this email.
Thereby I invite you to join our Fedora Ambassador Project and be one
of our Fedora Ambassadors. You can also meet other Fedora Ambassadors
in your region who might help you as well for your events.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
Kind regards,
Chitlesh
14 years, 11 months
[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] LEGAL:Distributing SystemC
by Chitlesh GOORAH
Dear SystemC-forum and developers,
Before I explain what the problem with Systemc's license is , let me
first introduce my intentions.
I am a community member of Fedora project.
https://fedoraproject.org/
My contribution to this _non profit_ organisation is to make the
deployment of opensource EDA tools easier, under the Fedora Electronic
Lab umbrella.
http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL
We are not in competition with other EDA vendors.
Thereby I was packaging SystemC for Fedora. However, after consulting
Red Hat Lawyers, Systemc's license is not valid to include it into
Fedora's repositories.
There is a third-party repository for fedora (not supported by the
fedora project) : rpmfusion which deals with such licensing issues.
http://rpmfusion.org/
I have spent many days trying to fix SystemC for gcc4, use dynamic
libraries instead of static, ... etc.
But the contributors behind the non-profit rpmfusion and I are worried
about the distribution of Systemc.
We have been in contact with Red Hat Lawyers to give us some advice on
this matter. You will find below their recommendations. With this
email, I am asking SystemC developers to please modify SystemC license
in such a way that it makes distribution easier.
Recently, Cadence and Mentors announced OVM is available under the
Apache 2 license. Can Synopsys do the same with SystemC ? or at least
a license which facilitates distribution.
You will have all my work done (patches) on integrating SystemC in
Fedora/Red Hat based linux operating systems. If SystemC's license is
updated as I wish, I will work with SELinux developers to fix the
memory flags that SELinux is blocking.
My request in this email is to facilitate the tasks of everyone :-
- me as a non-profit distributor
- any fedora user will have SystemC well integrated in the linux
distribution and he/she doesn't have to spend days compiling Systemc.
- SystemC developers will have all my patches.
However, if Systemc's developers reject my request, I will not
distribute Systemc and abide to the legal terms.
Below are some recommendations to update SystemC's license:
This is specifically commenting on the current version 3.0 of the
SystemC license.
http://www.systemc.org/about/org_docs/license/
The most significant problem is section 2.7, concerning trademarks. I
would suggest both of the following:
(a) Eliminating 2.7 in its entirety. Trademark issues are dealt with
adequately in section 2.5. However, another (redundant) possibility is
to replace the existing 2.7 in its entirety with one sentence:
This Agreement grants no permission to use the marks or logos of OSCI.
(b) Sever Exhibit D completely from the license.
There are other issues that might not rise to the level of
non-free-ness but have been pointed out by the FSF as being
problematic (and in some cases clarification of meaning or purpose
would lead to the conclusion that the clauses in question make the
license non-free). The following suggestions would address these:
(a) Eliminate the following:
PLEASE READ THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT CAREFULLY BEFORE CLICKING ON THE
"ACCEPT" BUTTON, AS BY CLICKING ON THE "ACCEPT" BUTTON YOU ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT YOU HAVE READ, UNDERSTOOD AND AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THIS LICENSE
AGREEMENT AND ALL OF ITS TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
(Note that there's other language that deals with acceptance below this
language.)
(b) In section 2.6, replace the term "proprietary notices" with "legal
notices".
(c) Replace section 5 with the following:
Any Recipient which Distributes any Contribution and/or OSCI Release
in a commercial offering (a "Commercial Distributor") may accept
certain responsibilities with respect to end users, business
partners and the like. While this license is intended to facilitate
the commercial use of Contributions and OSCI Releases, a Commercial
Distributor should do so in a manner which does not create
potential liability for the Contributors. Therefore, each
Commercial Distributor hereby agrees to defend and indemnify every
Contributor ("Indemnified Contributor") against any losses,
damages and costs (collectively "Losses") arising from claims,
lawsuits and other legal actions brought by a third party against the
Indemnified Contributor to the extent they directly result from the
acts or omissions of such Commercial Distributor in connection with
the terms and conditions under which the Commercial Distributor offered
such Contributions and OSCI releases in a commercial product
offering. The obligations in this Section 5 do not apply to any
claims or Losses relating to any actual or alleged intellectual
property infringement. In order to qualify, an Indemnified
Contributor must: a) promptly notify the Commercial
Distributor in writing of such claim, and b) allow the
Commercial Distributor to control, and cooperate with the Commercial
Distributor in, the defense and any related settlement negotiations.
The Indemnified Contributor may participate in the defense of any such
claim at its own expense.
For example, a Recipient might include a Contribution in a commercial
product offering, Product X. That Contributor is then a Commercial
Distributor. If that Commercial Distributor then makes performance
claims, or offers warranties, support or indemnity related to
Product X, those performance claims, offers and other terms
are such Commercial Distributor's responsibility
alone. Under this Section 5, the Commercial Distributor would have to
defend claims against the Contributors directly arising out of those
performance claims, offers, and other terms, and if a court requires
any Contributor to pay any damages as a result, the Commercial
Distributor must pay those damages.
Alternatively, and preferably, eliminate section 5 altogether.
Kind regards,
Chitlesh
14 years, 11 months
[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] SystemC License issue
by Chitlesh GOORAH
Hello there,
While systemc's review (rpmfusion) is nearly over and a lot of work
has been done, we are now worried about its license.
You will find the license here:
http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/systemC/License.pdf
Section 5 states:
A Recipient who Distributes the Program (a "Distributor") may accept certain
responsibilities with respect to end users, business partners and the
like. While this
license is intended to facilitate the commercial use of the Program, a
Distributor shall
Distribute the Program in a manner which does not create potential liability for
Contributors. Therefore each Distributor hereby agrees to defend and
indemnify every
Contributor ("Indemnified Contributor") against any losses, damages and costs
(collectively "Losses") arising from claims, lawsuits and other legal
actions brought by a
third party against the Indemnified Contributor to the extent caused
by the acts or
omissions of such Distributor, including but not limited to the terms
and conditions under
which Distributor offered the Program, in connection with its
Distribution of the Program.
The obligations in this section do not apply to any claims or Losses
relating to any
actual or alleged intellectual property infringement of the Program.
In order to qualify,
an Indemnified Contributor must: (a) promptly notify the Distributor
in writing of such
claim, and (b) allow the Distributor to control, and cooperate with
the Distributor in, the
defense and any related settlement negotiations. The Indemnified Contributor may
participate in the defense of any such claim at its own expense.
Can anyone clarify whether it is valid for rpmfusion ? fedora/RH Legal
has tagged SystemC's license as non-free.
regards,
Chitlesh
14 years, 11 months
[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Fwd: Student Projects using Electric
by Aanjhan R
Nice info below :-)
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From: pallav <pallavgupta(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Subject: Student Projects using Electric
To: Electric VLSI Editor <electricvlsi(a)googlegroups.com>
My junior undergraduate students in ECE 3450 (Digital Electronics) and
I have used Electric for the first time.
They have been very happy with this tool (as have I) and have immense
praise for it (ease of use, allowing them to see 3D structures, nice
IRSIM simulator, etc). As a result, each one of them has successfully
laid out relatively complex circuits using Electric on their own. If
interested, please visit
http://pandim.ece.villanova.edu/index.php/teaching-mainmenu-44/20-fall-20...
to see their projects. Twelve weeks ago, few of them knew what a
transistor was or what CMOS is all about. Electric has played a very
significant role in their education. Many are now eager to learn more
about VLSI design.
If there are any instructors or non-undergraduate students (sorry)
here who would like the source files for the projects to use in their
own courses (tutorials, labs, etc)/learning, I'll be happy to share
them with you. Feel free to contact me.
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[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Interests
by Aniruddha
Dear Sir;
I am thinking of learning as I work with you, from the table of contents in
FEL webpage I could make out "PCB Layout and Circuit Design, Micro
Controller (µC) Programming
And Embedded Systems Development" could be interesting. I would request you
to judge my skills as I am a novice.
Thanks In Advance
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Aniruddha wrote:
> Should I therefore keep update processes running in future? I would also
> like to be any help I could do for this society, although I am not an
linux
> literate, or programmer.
Hello,
I need some help to verify whether the documentation and examples of
the FEL apps are uptodate.
Tell me, what field of electronics you are interested in ?
ASIC, embedded PCB ..?
Depending on your interest you could help me verify the examples. If
some examples are not working for some reasons, you will have to
report it here in this mailing list or in bugzilla.
Afterwards, I'll update the packages as appropriate and upstream will
be notified. Does this sound interesting for you ?
Kind regards,
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[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Fwd: gEDA-announce: Press release: gEDA Project and Linux Fund partner to boost gEDA/PCB usability
by Chitlesh GOORAH
Some good news from Stuart: (in case you missed it)
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From: Stuart Brorson < hidden >
Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Subject: gEDA-announce: Press release: gEDA Project and Linux Fund
partner to boost gEDA/PCB usability
Good news for gEDA users!
Please read the below press release, of interest to all gEDA users.
It has gone out to a variety of EE news sources, as well as mainstream
press release sites.
Cheers,
Stuart
December 15th, 2008
gEDA Project and Linux Fund partner to boost gEDA/PCB usability
Help bring open source circuit board design into the mainstream.
The gEDA Project is pleased to announce that it has partnered with Linux Fund
in a fundraising effort targeted to expedite development of gEDA's flagship
PCB layout program "PCB". Within this partnership, expert gEDA/PCB developer
DJ Delorie has agreed to implement a set of enhancements designed to upgrade
PCB's usability and utility for electronics designers, making it an attractive
open source alternative to commercial PCB design tools. With this project,
gEDA/PCB joins the VectorSection DWG interpreter project as part of Linux
Fund's growing open engineering and hardware initiative.
PCB is a twenty year old application. Originally written in 1990 for the Atari
ST, the program was ported to Unix in 1994. Over the years, it has been
maintained and extended by a series of developers who have added improvements
and new features, including the ability to export Gerber RS-274x files, an
autorouter, and a GTK port. Mr Delorie is currently one of the chief
developers involved with PCB, having become involved with the project in
2002.
DJ Delorie is well known within the open source community as the author of
djgpp, a popular port of the gcc compiler to DOS. He is also a long time user
of PCB, having used the program to design a net-enabled alarm clock which won
second place in Circuit Cellar Magazine's "Microchip embedded control" design
contest in 2007. His commitment to work on PCB usability enhancements in
conjunction with funding from the Linux Fund represents a major step forward
for the gEDA Project, as well as a welcome boost to the open-hardware
movement.
gEDA/PCB upgrade work description:
* Implement forward annotation using action scripts
* GUI modernization
* Enhance ability to create and edit arbitrary layer types
* Develop a new Footprint Editor
* Update Design Rule Checking
About the gEDA Project
The gEDA Project is a community of open-source developers working on creating
tools for electronic design released under the GNU Public License. The project
currently offers a mature suite of free software applications for electronics
design, including schematic capture, attribute management, bill of materials
(BOM) generation, netlisting into over 20 netlist formats, analog and digital
simulation, and printed circuit board (PCB) layout.
Besides the core design tools, the gEDA Project has gathered a community of
other programmers who work on their own tools while sharing the gEDA e-mail
lists, administration, and community support. This extended set of electronics
design applications has become known as the "gEDA Suite".
Visit http://geda.seul.org for more information about the gEDA Project.
About Linux Fund
Linux Fund is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization that provides financial and
supervisory support to the open source software community. Linux Fund raises
funds with its line of rewards credit cards and direct donations, and has
given over half a million dollars to open source projects since its founding
in 1999.
Visit http://www.linuxfund.org for more information about Linux Fund and to
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[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Fwd: NASCUG Call for Contributions: Abstract Deadline January 9, 2009
by Chitlesh GOORAH
FYI.
Systemc is currently under review at rpmfusion. Hopefully, before
Christmas I could get it approved at rpmfusion. A lot of works were
done in order to get a proper package ready.
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Date: Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Subject: NASCUG Call for Contributions: Abstract Deadline January 9, 2009
To: members(a)lists.systemc.org
NASCUG User's Group Meeting
Call for Contributions -- Abstract Deadline January 9
-----------------------------------------------------
The North American SystemC User's Group (NASCUG) accelerates the use
of SystemC for both new and established users by providing venues for
users to contribute, learn, and interact. Following the great success
of our previous meetings, we are calling for contributions for the
upcoming 10th NASCUG meeting, to be held 24 February 2009 in San Jose,
CA USA. This event is co-located with the Design Verification
Conference (DVCon) 2009 (www.dvcon.com).
A central component of the half-day user's group meeting is a number
of 20-minute user experience presentations discussing techniques of
design, modeling, and verification using SystemC.
Topics include, but are not restricted to:
-- Architectural Modeling with SystemC
-- Transaction-Level Modeling
-- Software Co-Design with SystemC
-- Platform Design Using SystemC
-- Verification Techniques Using SystemC
-- Integrating SystemC into the Design Flow
-- SystemC Tool Flows and Methodologies
-- SystemC Language Development
Submission Requirements
-----------------------
The final contribution should be a PowerPoint or PDF slide
presentation with duration of about 20 minutes (for "how-to"
presentations approval may be given for up to 40 minutes).
Presentations are expected to be of current topical interest to
attendees and should consider the following:
-- What is unique to the audience
-- The value/contribution of the technology being presented
-- Level of presentation (beginner, intermediate, advanced)
-- Summary of results for the project
A title and an abstract (of about 200 words) for a user experience
presentation or "how to" presentation can be submitted online at:
www.nascug.org/abstracts.
Important dates:
-- Abstract Deadline: January 9, 2009
-- Notification: January 16, 2009
-- Final Slides Due: February 18, 2009
For up-to-date information:
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