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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #37: Package SystemCASS is a SystemC simulator , ( 15 times faster than OSCI's simulator (SystemC 2.1.v1).
by fedora-badges 07 Dec '09

07 Dec '09

#37: Package SystemCASS is a SystemC simulator ,( 15 times faster than OSCI's simulator (SystemC 2.1.v1). -------------------------------------------+-------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 12 'Constantine' Component: Electronic System Level (ESL) | Version: devel Keywords: | -------------------------------------------+-------------------------------- To package SystemCASS is a SystemC simulator cycle accurate, bit accurate. This simulator is 15 times faster than OSCI's simulator (SystemC 2.1.v1). https://www-asim.lip6.fr/trac/systemcass/ -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/37> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] gnucap snapshots instead of 0.35 stable
by Chitlesh GOORAH 07 Dec '09

07 Dec '09

Hello Rakesh, I would like to ask you whether you can update gnucap package from the 0.35 stable to the latest snapshots please ? Sure, this should first hit testing repositories. The latest snapshot contains a lot of enhancement for true mixed-mode simulation. Since Al Davis (upstream) is working behind systemc implementation on these snapshots, it will help us evaluate whether we can either spend it is worth to spend some time behind either sampalib - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/34 systemcass - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/37 knowing the fact that we can't package systemc for fedora due to licensing issues. Kind regards, Chitlesh -- Chitlesh GOORAH http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #87: Package eclipse-sdcc - Eclipse plugin for sdcc
by fedora-badges 06 Dec '09

06 Dec '09

#87: Package eclipse-sdcc - Eclipse plugin for sdcc -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: konrad(a)tylerc.org Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 14 Component: embedded design | Version: devel Keywords: sdcc, embedded | -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- = phenomenon = Missing eclipse plugin for sdcc = background analysis = The eclipseSDCC project aims to provide full support for the open source Small Device C Compiler (SDCC) from within the eclipse/CDT development environment. This allows embedded 'C' applications for 8051 and Z80 devices to be developed using the fully featured eclipse IDE. EclipseSDCC supports CDT managed make projects. In managed make projects CDT manages the build process by creating and maintaining the underlaying makefiles. CDT keeps track of source dependencies and can automatically rebuild the target when needed. = implementation recommendation = sdcc is already provided on fedora. Since Conrad Meyer has recently taken over sdcc packaging from Trond Danielsen. He was kindly asked whether he is interested in packaging eclipse-sdcc as well. Still waiting for an answer. Package eclipse-sdcc http://eclipse-sdcc.sourceforge.net/ -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/87> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #76: Work with upstream to update vhdl-mode in Emacs
by fedora-badges 06 Dec '09

06 Dec '09

#76: Work with upstream to update vhdl-mode in Emacs --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: shakthimaan Type: upstream | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: Starter task | Version: devel Keywords: | --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- = phenomenon = vhdl-mode's mode version coming with emacs 23.1 is old. http://www.iis.ee.ethz.ch/~zimmi/emacs/vhdl-mode.html = recommendation = Needs someone to work with upstream so that they update vhdl-mode in the upstream's sources. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/76> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] User documentation (was Re:Dead Upstream what should we do ?)
by Chitlesh GOORAH 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Just want to discuss this further as our list of packages is growing day-by-day: Yes userguides are currently one of your weaknesses. Let's create another thread for this as we definitely got to find a suitable solution for the long term. > 1. Whatever documentation made for a particular software can be pushed > upstream, so we keep track of only one set of sources. We will do > documentation in LaTeX or DocBook, so we abstract content with > presentation, and it will greatly help us in the long run. +1 documentation should be pushed to upstream I would tend to opt for LaTex as most of our upstream developers like to keep their documentation in text format. Having that said, what should we do for other tools which upstream ships loads of documentation in OOo formats e.g kicad-doc ? As we know Latex gives one the opportunity to create documents in any type of format e.g pdf, dvi, ps ... If we are to ship the same contents in different formats, we should also bundle all the plugins for these formats. In FEL-12, I didn't think about this and by default (on the livedvd) one cannot read .dvi files with evince, because I missed the package evince-dvi on the livedvd (sorry by the way :) ). The more we add such type of dependencies to the livedvd the more * time we have to allocate for the livedvd's testing * time we have to allocate for package reviews * the size the livedvd will be. * the more dependencies they will pull. So here a decision should be made. If it was for me, pdf format is enough. What do you think ? > 2. In Yelp, we can provide links to all relevant installed package > documentation? If that can be done, it will only be linking to the > respective files? or else we will need something similar in the lines > of .desktop files that can simply pin-point to where the doc/, man/, > info/ pages for each software/tool that is shipped, and are > independent of desktop environments. I have no idea if linking to specific files is possible. In the wiki pages I'm editing on https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/wiki/Digital, I'm pointing to these type of commands : $ man XXXXX or $ rpm -qd XXXXXX example in : https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/wiki/Digital/iverilog Pointing to specific files would be great for the user, but hard on us. Each time upstream add/remove docs, the packager will have to update this yelp correctly. > 3. We will also need to provide documentation on suggested workflows > with various tools that are shipped, so people can follow it. This is coupled with your #2. Either we do it in * latex directly and output one big PDF which we can package separately so that it can be shipped on the livedvd and be updated as any other package, ( we could possibly add the release notes and the flyer in that package as well) * or in yelp as in #2. If in #1, we choose latex, I would favour latex here too. What do you think ? "Design flows" is one of FEL's strengths. It would be difficult to push this upstream as many tools of different upstreams will fall in different flows. Hence we have to maintain it ourselves in our git. However we have to ensure it can also easily available so that other distributions can use that "Design flows" doc as reference. Chitlesh

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #83: Package TinyOS
by fedora-badges 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

#83: Package TinyOS --------------------------------------------+------------------------------- Reporter: shakthimaan | Owner: shakthimaan* Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: embedded design | Version: devel Keywords: Embedded, OS, wireless, sensor | --------------------------------------------+------------------------------- Package TinyOS, a Free/Open Source OS for embedded wireless sensor networks. It is released under BSD license. http://www.tinyos.net/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TinyOS -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/83> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #82: Package logisim
by fedora-badges 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

#82: Package logisim --------------------+------------------------------------------------------- Reporter: scottt | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: | --------------------+------------------------------------------------------- http://ozark.hendrix.edu/~burch/logisim/ * Description: Logisim is an educational tool for designing and simulating digital logic circuits and can be used (and is used) to design and simulate entire CPUs for educational purposes. Currently used by students at [http://ozark.hendrix.edu/~burch/logisim/usage.html colleges and universities around the world] in many types of classes, ranging from a brief unit on logic in general-education computer science surveys, to computer organization courses, to full-semester courses on computer architecture. * License: GPLv2+ * Requires: Java 1.4 or later (The prebuilt jar does run using Fedora's openjdk) * NOTE: the source code is distributed in an unusual way and is included in the "src/" directory of the same prebuilt jar file -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/82> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] FEL request: opencores and user demos
by Chitlesh GOORAH 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

Hello there, As many of you already know that the FEL[1] team wants to ensure that opensource tools can be used for the real life, we would appreciate some help in terms of such documentation. If you are familiar with tools like iverilog and ghdl, you can help us show the world what opensource EDA tools and opensource design flows can achieve. I welcome you to take one of the _completed_ opencores[2] projects and try to simulate it with ghdl or iverilog. Detail your procedures on https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/wiki/Demos/opencores/CHOSENP… You can also upload your screenshots to that wiki page. To edit on that wiki page, please login with your FAS[4] username. However if you encounter a bug with ghdl or iverilog during that process, please file a bug to [3]. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/wiki/Demos/opencores Your help will be greatly appreciated. Kind regards: Chitlesh Goorah on the behalf of the Fedora Electronic Lab team Other interesting urls which might interest you: * Openmoko hardware development on Fedora: http://chitlesh.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/openmoko-hardware-development-on-f… * Gallery http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/gallery2/main.php [1]: website: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/ [2]: http://opencores.com/ [3]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/frontpage.cgi [4]: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] PACKAGERS HEADS UP :release notes 13 and separate .sty for layout
by Chitlesh GOORAH 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

Hello there, On the request of Peter Cliford of gEDA, I've separated the layout of the release notes 13 from the contents : https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/browser/release-notes/F-13 1) The customized pseudo package is releasenotes.sty. I'm not a latex guru. It is now free from graphics except the logo. If anyone can improve it so that it becomes portable he/she is welcome :) The colour of the layout can be customized. 2) I would appreciate if packagers can update this FEL13ReleaseNotes.tex accordingly when they are updating their packages. Thank you. Chitlesh PS: While discussing with PeterC, I thought about asking our upstream to adopt this latex package so that it would be like a brand of the opensouce EDA developers (of course without the fel logo). This came to me, since lately more corporates are opensourcing one or two of their tools, but they are claiming to their customers that they are the leader in opensource software. I feel it as an insult for our upstreams who are working hard to fix bugs and add new features during their free time. So a generic brand of the opensource EDA developers would remind users that there are a bunch of people who are investing their time too for opensource EDA. what do you think ? is it feasible ? Chitlesh -- Chitlesh GOORAH Fedora Electronic Lab Architect http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] Dead Upstream what should we do ?
by Chitlesh GOORAH 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

Hello there, Shakthi has recently encountered a situation where I think upstream of his package is pretty non-responsive, that we can call it dead upstream. I went to see on sourceforge to see how many of the EDA tools's development were pretty much dead. I was surprise to see my bright ideas unachieved. So the question is As a community driven and non-profit opensource EDA leader, what should we do ? I would like to hear from you how you would like to contribute to solve this situation. As far as I'm concerned, I would rather want to take over the upstream responsibilities and little by little migrate the code/features to an active upstream of existing opensource EDA software. In other words, improve the existing supported opensource EDA tools. It will also be very interesting for new developers who don't actually know what to contribute to the opensource community. Kind regards, Chitlesh

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