[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] herb : alliance patches, icons, desktop files and little tweaks
by Chitlesh GOORAH
Hello there,
this email is cross-posted on
- fedora electronic lab mailing list - to inform the community about
herb, an alliance fork
- herb mailing list - to propose some patches, icons, desktop files
and little tweaks
I was introduced to herb yesterday at FOSDEM by one of its developers.
I support the initiative since alliance development has stalled for
more than a year. However I would appreciate TCL/Tk support instead of
GTK/QT for the reasons I've mentioned in:
https://www-asim.lip6.fr/wws/arc/alliance-users/2009-02/msg00006.html
Like I propose to Mukund, here are all my patches:
http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/alliance/devel/
You will also find some icons and desktop files for the kde/gnome menu
structured by gEDA's developer PeterB/C "electronics-menu" (which is
default on fedora). I still need to find some time to push it to
freedesktop developers as their specifications does not give
electronics engineering applications its real value, but considers
those tools as "education".
With the following spec file, I create alliance rpms. The alliance
values are sourced automatically.
http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/alliance/devel/alliance.spec?vie...
I'm planning in the near future, but before F-11 release, to create a
one/two page flyer for _all_ opensource EDA tools.
Kind regards,
Chitlesh
15 years, 2 months
[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: [Alliance-users] Question about gcp
by Chitlesh GOORAH
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Mukund Sivaraman <muks(a)banu.com> wrote:
>> I see your project is targeting GTK libraries to replace Motif, don't
>> you think Qt is now a better choice with the future Qt LGPL release ?
>
> Most of the code is in C, and are console tools and libraries. We think
> that these can be helped by using glib in them. glib's utilities,
> logging facility, language bindings, etc. can all be easily added in
> the existing code.
>
> Two of us are GNOME developers and hence are very familiar with the
> GTK+ stack. So naturally we want to use GTK+ for the GUI tools. Both
> GTK+ and Qt satisfy the requirements very well. The licensing is not a
> factor in our choice as we are changing Herb's license to only be
> GPLv3.
Hello Mukund and Christophe,
Being a KDE4 user and most of my friends are gnomers, I would
recommend Tcl/Tk for the following reasons:
- new users from the digital asic designers are already familiar with
Tcl - coming from proprietary software
- more chances to get contributors in, as writing plugins becomes easier
- the users of herb/alliance are not software developers, thereby if
it is a Qt/GTK based app, it will be a bit hard to build a community
around herb as users are not software developers
- (this is very important to the opensource EDA community) : more
compatibilities with other Tcl/Tk based apps such as magic,
irsim,netgen, xcircuit,...
The latter is important because currently herb/alliance is more
digital oriented and having already a handful of tcl/tk based analog
tools from opencircuitdesign and Graham Petley's standard cells, I
believeTCL/Tk is the right choice to follow as in the future, there
will be more chances to have more mixed signal simulation with
opensource EDA tools. The developer of Ngspice is planning to write a
TCL/TK based frontend for ngspice and if herb uses Tcl/Tk, we will be
able to ensure several design flows with opensource EDA tools. Knowing
as well the fact that Tkgate provides verilog support with a simple
tcl/tk based app, it would be nice to have easy and quick scripting
interface to both design and simulation.
I'll respect your choice of gtk, however I believe this decision should :
- be based on what the advantages are for the designer.
- not be about ones' favourite API
It is important to have a community around herb if we all want herb
development to continue for at least 5 years.
Kind regards,
Chitlesh
15 years, 2 months
[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Installation problem, X windows quits
by marcus escobosa
It seems that X windows quits during the install process on Parallels VM 3
running on my mac notebook which uses an Intel GMA950 video system. I can
get to a command line however. Is there a way to configure X windows to use
a more generic driver? I have never had a problem installing or running
Linux before, and I regularly use Fedora 3 and Centos 5.
I get the blue login screen with the earthsun picture (?), but can only do a
console login. Other logins result in a X server restart.
Does anyone know what file to modify to use a generic video driver?
Thanks
--
Marcus Escobosa
marcusescobosa(a)gmail.com
15 years, 2 months
[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Mutiboot DVD
by himanshu lad
Hi guys I have been trying to create multiboot DVD with FEL 32 and 64 bit
versions on the same disk. I have googled a lot.The instuctions given there
work fine for Ubuntu and knoppix but not for Fedora discs. The init file in
initrd0.img doesnot seem to make sense to me,can anyone help
*WARNING: Cannot find root file system?*
***
**Create symlink /dev/root and then exit this shell to continue the boot
sequence.**
**bash: **
*
**
**
The directory structure of dvd is
/boot->isolinux->isolinux.bin
/boot->isolinux->isolinux.cfg
/boot->FEL_10_32->(isolinux directory contents of original iso)
/FEL_10_32->LiveOS
I have attached the iso linux configuration file
Thanks
Himanshu Lad
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15 years, 2 months
