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[fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #90: Kansas Lava
by fedora-badges 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

#90: Kansas Lava ---------------------------------------------------+------------------------ Reporter: shakthimaan | Owner: shakthimaan Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: Hardware, verification, formal, logic | ---------------------------------------------------+------------------------ Package Kansas Lava: http://www.ittc.ku.edu/csdl/fpg/KansasLava This is expected to have better writeVhdl features, than Chalmers Lava 2000. Release expected last week of 2009. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/90> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #32: package Fritzing (draft spec included)
by fedora-badges 18 Dec '11

18 Dec '11

#32: package Fritzing (draft spec included) ------------------------+--------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 12 'Constantine' Component: PCB Layout | Version: 12 Keywords: | ------------------------+--------------------------------------------------- Fritzing will also interest the Education Spin. It is rather impressive though for a new EDA software. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/32> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #73: GTK GUI for Digital Gate Compiler
by fedora-badges 03 Dec '11

03 Dec '11

#73: GTK GUI for Digital Gate Compiler -------------------------------------------+-------------------------------- Reporter: shakthimaan | Owner: shakthimaan Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 12 'Constantine' Component: Starter task | Version: devel Keywords: GTK+, GUI, C, newbie, starter | -------------------------------------------+-------------------------------- = problem = dgc_gui.c in Digital Gate Compiler (DGC) uses old GTK+ API. = analysis = dgc_gui.c in Digital Gate Compiler (dgc-0.98) doesn't compile cleanly. = enhancement recommendation = Anyone interested in GTK+, C programming can re-write the GUI from scratch. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/73> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #60: Package GSS Tcad
by fedora-badges 03 Dec '11

03 Dec '11

#60: Package GSS Tcad ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Keywords: | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Request for addition of GSS Tcad package GSS is a commercial quality TCAD software which enables two-dimensional numerical simulation of semiconductor device with well-known drift- diffusion and hydrodynamic method. Commercial competition Silvaco Atlas Synopsys Taurus Medici Synopsys Sentaurus Device Webpage of GSS http://gss-tcad.sourceforge.net/ -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/60> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #80: Emacs DocBook XML mode
by fedora-badges 12 Jul '11

12 Jul '11

#80: Emacs DocBook XML mode ---------------------------------+------------------------------------------ Reporter: shakthimaan | Owner: sagarun* Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: Documentation | Version: devel Keywords: Emacs, docbook, XML | ---------------------------------+------------------------------------------ = bug description = Emacs DocBook XML mode is useful for preparing documents with DocBook style. = fix recommendation = Package the sources: http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbookxml/ -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/80> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #20: package myHDL
by fedora-badges 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

#20: package myHDL ----------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 12 Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: | ----------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Upstream was contacted to encourage them to package myHDL for FEL. Upstream responded by saying he will ask his community. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/20> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #91: Package ForSyDe
by fedora-badges 24 Mar '11

24 Mar '11

#91: Package ForSyDe -----------------------------------------------------+---------------------- Reporter: shakthimaan | Owner: shakthimaan Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: formal method, hardware design, haskell | -----------------------------------------------------+---------------------- Package ForSyDe (Haskell) by Prof. Ingo Sander from kth.se. http://hackage.haskell.org/package/ForSyDe http://www.ict.kth.se/forsyde/ -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/91> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #74: ¿Possible inclusion of Arduino IDE in FEL?
by fedora-badges 09 Oct '10

09 Oct '10

#74: ¿Possible inclusion of Arduino IDE in FEL? -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Reporter: q2dg | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 12 'Constantine' Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: Arduino IDE | -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Hello everybody. If you don´t know it, Arduino (http://www.arduino.cc) is an open-source electronics prototyping platform based on flexible, easy-to-use hardware and software. It can sense the environment by receiving input from a variety of sensors and can affect its surroundings by controlling lights, motors, and other actuators. The microcontroller on the board is programmed using the Arduino programming language (based on GPL Wiring -http://www.wiring.org.co-) and the Arduino development environment (based on GPL/LGPL Processing -http://www.processing.org-). Arduino projects can be stand-alone or they can communicate with software on running on a computer. The boards can be built by hand or purchased preassembled; the software can be downloaded for free. The hardware reference designs (CAD files) are available under an open-source license, you are free to adapt them to your needs (you can see http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Hardware and http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Policy) I think it would be very nice is Fedora could incorporate Arduino IDE out- of-the-box. You can download it from http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Software, and you can see dependencies requirements at http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Learning/Linux (specific intructions for Fedora 11 are written at http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Linux/Fedora) If you want, you can gather more information from the official web. -Board reference: http://arduino.cc/en/Reference/Board -Language reference: http://arduino.cc/en/Reference/HomePage -Language reference (extended): http://arduino.cc/en/Reference/Extended -Code examples: http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/HomePage -Extra Libraries: http://arduino.cc/en/Reference/Libraries -Other resources: http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/Links -Projects of the community: http://www.arduino.cc/playground/ -For developing Arduino in deep: http://www.arduino.cc/en/Hacking/HomePage -Forum: http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl Thanks a lot! -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/74> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #85: nesC compiler
by fedora-badges 14 Aug '10

14 Aug '10

#85: nesC compiler --------------------------------------------------------+------------------- Reporter: shakthimaan | Owner: shakthimaan* Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: embedded design | Version: devel Keywords: TinyOS, embedded, compiler, sensor network | --------------------------------------------------------+------------------- nesC compiler is used by TinyOS. Package nesC! http://sourceforge.net/projects/nescc/ -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/85> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #59: package teal
by fedora-badges 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

#59: package teal --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Keywords: | --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- http://sourceforge.net/projects/teal/ TEAL - C++ multithreaded library to verfiy verilog designs -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/59> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #62: package cgnslib (gss dependency) spec included
by fedora-badges 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

#62: package cgnslib (gss dependency) spec included ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Keywords: | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ http://cgns.sourceforge.net/ dependency for gss tcad. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/62> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #61: Package GSS-TechSim
by fedora-badges 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

#61: Package GSS-TechSim ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Keywords: | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Request for addition of a Process Simulation package GSS-TechSim GSS-TechSim and it can be used for the simulation of: 1.Thermal Diffusion 2.Thermal Oxidation 3.Ion Implantation 4.High-k Material Commercial Competition Silvaco Athena Webpage of GSS-TechSim http://gss-tcad.sourceforge.net/techsim.html -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/61> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #51: chalmers-lava2000
by fedora-badges 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

#51: chalmers-lava2000 -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Reporter: shakthimaan | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 12 'Constantine' Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: | -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Package chalmers-lava2000, a Hardware Description Library written in Haskell. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/chalmers- lava2000 -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/51> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #71: package hct : The HDL Complexity Tool is a simple tool to provide measurement data.
by fedora-badges 18 Jun '10

18 Jun '10

#71: package hct : The HDL Complexity Tool is a simple tool to provide measurement data. --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Keywords: | --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- http://hct.sourceforge.net/index.html The goal of the HCT is to generate scores that represent the complexity of the constituent modules of large IC design projects – i.e. SOCs. The design's complexity scores are useful to verification teams so as to efficiently focus resources based on the dynamic complexity profile of a design. The scores are a useful tool to guide HDL designer's refactoring efforts. This data provides an efficient way to "come up to speed", by pointing you to the most important modules of a legacy design. Importantly, the complexity scores allow managers to estimate schedules and resources in a more robust and effective way than any one standard metric can provide (SLOC for example). -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/71> Fedora Electronic Lab <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab> Design, Simulate and Program electronics.

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[fedora-electronic-lab] MCU 8051 IDE
by Tom varghese 14 Jun '10

14 Jun '10

Hi there, MCU 8051 IDE not run on fel 12. I got the following results. $ mcu8051ide --check-libraries MCU 8051 IDE v1.3.3 Checking libraries... 1/9 Checking for library BWidget Library present ... NO ! Version 1.7 ... NO ! 2/9 Checking for library Itcl Library present ... YES Version 3.4 ... YES 3/9 Checking for library Tcl Library present ... YES Version 8.2 ... YES 4/9 Checking for library md5 Library present ... YES Version 2.0 ... YES 5/9 Checking for library crc16 Library present ... YES Version 1.1 ... YES 6/9 Checking for library Tk Library present ... NO ! Version 8.5 ... NO ! 7/9 Checking for library img::png Library present ... NO ! Version 1.3 ... NO ! 8/9 Checking for library tdom Library present ... YES Version 0.8 ... YES 9/9 Checking for library Tclx Library present ... YES Version 8.0 ... YES RESULTS: Number of fails: 3 PROGRAM WILL NOT RUN, please install the missing libraries Please Help. -- Knowledge is free. Free means open source... http://opentechlab.blogspot.com

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[fedora-electronic-lab] DGC GUI (was Re: Introduction)
by Shakthi Kannan 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

Hi, --- On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Sikku <sikandar.sio(a)gmail.com> wrote: | Got familiar with git. Its awesome. Has the request which u mentioned | been granted? \-- Not yet. Still awaiting response from FI. --- | A small correction in the | command u mentioned. | $ rpm2cpio dgc-0.98-3.fc12.src.rpm | cpio -idv \-- Thanks. --- | Which means the GUI has already been written? \-- Yes, but, uses old GTK+ API. You can look into the current source code. --- | Will look into the documentation now. Before that I have to get | familiar with GTK+ which I haven't used it till now. \-- Please go through the latest GTK+ tutorial, and try out the examples. --- | So some enhancements I have to work with? \-- No. Tobias Dichtl enhancements will not be affected by your DGC GUI code. Regards, SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com

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[fedora-electronic-lab] Problems in packaging kicad
by Alain Portal 03 Apr '10

03 Apr '10

Hi, I get some problem in packaging kicad. Linking fails, and I don't know how to solve. There is no problem if I compile without packaging. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2056131 http://dionysos.fedorapeople.org/SPECS/kicad.spec http://dionysos.fedorapeople.org/SRPMS/kicad-2010.03.14-1.rev2462.fc12.src.… Can somebody helps me? Regards, Alain -- La version française des pages de manuel Linux http://manpagesfr.free.fr

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[fedora-electronic-lab] configuring toolchains crashes PIKLAB
by Howard Howell 29 Mar '10

29 Mar '10

Here is the scenario.... If you close the current project, or start piklab with no project, then select configure toolchains, the menu never opens and piklab crashes. Alain knew about the case of starting piklab with no projcet, but I didn't see any mention of the close the existing project and then try to configure tool chains. The message is: We are sorry, Piklab closed unexpectedly. You can help us improve KDE Software by reporting this error, Learn more about bug reporting. Note it is save to close this dialog if you do not want to report this bug. (((( several line feeds)))) Details Executable: piklab PID: 4157 Signal:11 (segmentation fault) Unfortunately I don't seem to have the requisite symbol information so the bug report won't finish, nor can I get valgrind to produce anything useful. The toolchain settings are probably going to make some change in the project file, So my first guess is that with no project file open, there is an attempt to write to an empty file. I am going to research this, but I thought that some one here may have already isolated the bug to a specific area in the software. If that is the case, the (hopefully simple) solution is to open a default project file, so that setups can be reported to it, and during project creation, the system wizard will prompt if you want to use that file. Or maybe simpler is just to load that file and modify it by the project wizard. I will reply either to this message or whoever follows up with what I find. Regards, Les H

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[fedora-electronic-lab] piklab
by Howard Howell 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Hi, everyone, I have PikLab loaded, and the latest subversion as of a week ago. I have also loaded Kdevelop. What started me down this path is the issue where piklab can find the gpasm, gpsim and gputils executables, but responds with the message "gp***" not recognized in the configure toolchains dialog. If you click the search button, it brings up a message box which shows: Command for executable detection: gpasm -v Version string: gpasm-0.13.7 beta My guess is that the word beta on the end of the version string is confusing the comparison used in the program. Alain has tried to make a fix on this but was unsuccessful. So, I obtained the subversion copy, loaded Kdevelop and attempted to open the project. The project was not populated. My various attempts to populate the project with the files have all failed. I am unaccustomed to programs of this structure. I have used C and C++ before, and while not a power user in terms of systems programming, I do write a lot of code. However this user interface, while probably simple to all of you has me baffled. If someone could write up the procedure they use to bring up the debugger, it would be very helpful, and I will return my work to upstream. Some of the projects I have done include program translation utilities, simulation translation to program data for test systems and other utilities as well as more than 100 test programs on main frame IC testers running a variety of languages and operating systems. And while the coding is intense in these programs, they are essentially tightly bound, runtime sensitive and so a loose coupling is not optional. I have forgotten much about loosely coupled programming, but not everything. I am also a very quick learner once I get my initial hurdles cleared so I can experiment and develop techniques. Regards, Les Howell

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[fedora-electronic-lab] Mohammed Sikandar has invited you to Dropbox
by Dropbox 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

We're excited to let you know that Mohammed Sikandar has invited you to Dropbox! Mohammed Sikandar has been using Dropbox to sync and share files online and across computers, and thought you might want it too. Visit http://www.dropbox.com/link/20.cUBhhMKoia/NjExOTI1ODgyNw to get started. - The Dropbox Team ____________________________________________________ To stop receiving invites from Dropbox, please go to http://www.dropbox.com/bl/e58cf98a028e/fedora-electronic-lab-list%40redhat.…

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[fedora-electronic-lab] How to search archives?
by Robert Peruzzi 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

How do I search archives for solutions to my common problem before posting it? The one list of dated archives I found had no convenient way to search all of them. Just in case somebody is kind enough to re-answer my original common problem, here it is: I have tried several ways to install Fedora Electronic Lab (FEL), all of them unsuccessfully, and am seeking a procedure or recipe to do so: * About a year ago I installed Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) onto an external disk drive, hoping to find something like FEL. Last Autumn an email arrived, announcing FEL. I was busy on a contract and didn't get to try it until this month. * I downloaded FEL into my RHEL environment and got a desktop icon with a "?" and can't figure out how to execute it. * My expertise is in circuit design, and obviously not in operating systems. I only know UNIX and Linux well enough to get to the CAD tools and do file editing/managing and c-programming, perl etc. So a lot of the acronyms and terminology I see in the documentation and discussions go right over my head. Thanks very much for your patient help. Cheers, Bob P.

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[fedora-electronic-lab] Piklab
by Howard Howell 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

Continuing to work on Piklab and Ktechlab, I have gone back to piklab for now and discovered the following: 1. When you configure the toolchains, piklab looks in the exec path for gpasm and gplib and apparently ignores the environment, because when gputils installs the library manager and assembler are loaded in the /usr/bin directory and found via path from the command line. 2. I added a symbolic link to the /usr/share/libexec/sdcc directory (the search path for the executables used by piklab) to both gpasm and gplib, they show up as: "gpsim" not recognized "gplib" not recognized But pressing the find button for gpasm shows a textbox with the following in it: Command for executable detection: /usr/libexec/sdcc/gpasm -v Version string: gpasm-0.13.7 beta Pressing the button for gplib shows: Command for executable detection: /usr/libexec/sdcc/gplib -v Version string: gplib-0.13.7 beta So thinking the beta deal is bad and probably causing the problem, I did "yum info *gputils*" and got: Installed Packages Name : gputils Arch : i686 Version : 0.13.7 Release : 2.fc12 Size : 16 M Repo : installed >From repo : fedora Summary : Development utilities for Microchip (TM) PIC (TM) microcontrollers URL : http://gputils.sourceforge.net License : GPLv2+ Description: This is a collection of development tools for Microchip (TM) PIC : (TM) microcontrollers. : : This is ALPHA software: there may be serious bugs in it, and it's : nowhere near complete. gputils currently only implements a subset : of the features available with Microchip's tools. See the : documentation for an up-to-date list of what gputils can do. At this point, I believe there is a disconnect between the Piklab software and the current state of gputils in the upstream. Does anyone have anything to add to this or any suggestions of where to go from here? Should I bugzilla this? Regards, Les H

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[fedora-electronic-lab] SWG Spins discussion and follow-up actions
by Matt Domsch 04 Mar '10

04 Mar '10

FYI, these were the notes from last Monday's Board Strategic Working Group meeting, where your responses to the Board's questions were noted and discussed. From this, there are several specific actions we would like to see taken: # the problems hampering Spins due to long GNOME dependency chain requirements has a ticket open for FESCo to discuss. https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/345 # hosting space for Spins for direct http downloads will be made available by Infrastructure. Each spin should file a request for space with infrastructure. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR # being able to offer AutoQA individual Spins should get involved with QA Team to ensure their needs are addressed as well as those of the rest of the Project. This is highly dependent on Spins owners contributing to the QA methodologies and even direct test efforts - QA is already feeling overwhelmed, and we need to scale this process out across more volunteers. # banners on get.fp.o -> spins.fp.o https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/16 People with web site building experience are asked to participate in the websites team to remove "waiting on someone who can" as a possible bottleneck. I thank you all for your valuable input and continuing contributions to Fedora. Thanks, Matt ----- Forwarded message from John Poelstra <poelstra(a)redhat.com> ----- Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:17:37 -0800 From: John Poelstra <poelstra(a)redhat.com> To: advisory-board(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Board SWG Meeting 2010-03-01 Recap User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100120 Fedora/3.0.1-1.fc12 Thunderbird/3.0.1 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_strategic_working_group_2010-0… == Roll Call == * Attendees: John Poelstra, Paul Frields, Chris Tyler, Mike McGrath, Colin Walters, Matt Domsch * Notes from last meeting: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_strategic_working_group_2010-0… == Spins Work == * Background: ** Matt and Colin have been collecting feedback to questions asked ** https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Walters/SpinsSigsRemixes_TargetAudience ** https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Walters/SpinsSigsRemixes_ChangeDistribu… ** http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/spins/2010-February/000996.html ** https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mdomsch/SWG_Spins * Each spin producing group does believe they can and should define a target audience * John: would it help clarify our message to refer to the live gnome desktop as the ''default offering'' rather than referring to it as a spin? ** Paul: Spins were initially conceived as a range of things the community can produce that are alternatives to what we feel must be created, or add-ons that narrowly focus on special use cases * Matt: Rel-eng sits in the middle of the spin creation process right now -- a couple communication breakdowns have happened over time, sometimes spin producers didn't know their spin was being built ** Matt: semi-OT -- at some point need to reconsider the question of who builds the spins. Does it always have to be Release Engineering? ** Paul: more narrowly aimed spins (FEL, Games, ...) seem to nail their use cases quite well * Top of mind problem seems to be some dependency chains (system-config-keyboard), whether or not that is the most serious problem or not isn't clear * '''PAIN POINT IDENTIFIED''': Dependency chain requirements cause alternate desktop spins to still pull in a large portion of the GNOME stack. ** '''NEXT STEPS''': Mike will file ticket with FESCo requesting they look at dependency chain requirements. This could be a Fedora Engineering Services task. ** Colin willing to look at helping with dependency chain issues ** ''TICKET''': https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/345 * '''NON PAIN POINT''': Spins SIG does feel that resolution processes have been working well when they're needed. * Resources: ** Infrastructure now has the ability to host additional content, including spins. This has been a long time incoming, and needs to be implemented and announced, but the capacity is there now. ** Ambassadors who want to pass out specific spins can make requests for monetary resources to CommArch, to be evaluated in the scope of media requests and budget. *** The Board is not taking a stance on what medias should be produced for any particular event. * Not sure what to do with feedback from survey work that showed that some people don't want the board to help or ask questions about how they can help === Next Steps & Positive Outcomes === # dependency chain requirements #* https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/345 # hosting space for Spins #* Each spin should file a request for space with infrastructure # (tentative) being able to offer AutoQA #* individual Spins should get involved with QA Team to ensure their needs are addressed as well as those of the rest of the Project. # banners on get.fp.o #* https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/16 # Update wiki pages for information collected == Default Offering == * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Current_default_offering * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Different_default_offering * Give feedback to Paul by tomorrow, 2010-03-02 * Paul will send to Board for approval on 2010-03-02 == Topics and plan for next meeting == * John/Chris will take up topic of "What is a target audience?" * Meet next week, 2010-03-08 at 20:00 UTC (3:00pm EST/12:00pm PST) _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board ----- End forwarded message -----

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[fedora-electronic-lab] arm-elf gcc/gdb/binutils packages for FEL?
by Chris Shucksmith 02 Mar '10

02 Mar '10

I use Fedora FEL for the prepackaged gEDA suite. Recently, I needed to compile C code for an embedded ARM processor, the Cortex-M3. While FEL/Fedoras Extra ships with an *arm-gp2x* tool chain, and another for *avr* it does not have an *arm-elf* toolchain. It was fairly easy to modify the avr-gdb.spec, avr-gcc.spec and avr-binutils.spec files found online from the Fedora public build CVS (eg. at http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/avr-gdb/F-11/ ) to work for arm-elf, then build RPMs using rpmbuild. I removed a few avr specific patches, and upgraded binutils version to a later release to produce valid code for the cortex architecture (there were some fixes to the ARM call veneers in the last 12 months). These packages contain an arm-elf-gcc which accepts "-mcpu=cortex-m3 -mthumb" arguments. It seems worthwhile to submit these SPEC files for consideration for the FEL repositories. It would be great next time to have this pre-packaged, working on the assumption FEL might be more appropriate than Fedora Extras to carry them. The SPEC files (and FC11 RPMs) are on my blog at www.shucksmith.co.uk [1]. I would be happy to add them to the FEL CVS and look after keeping the packages building if this is an option. While I have no connection to either the gcc/gdb/binutils developers or FEL, I would still like to try and maintain them. Chris [1] http://www.shucksmith.co.uk/blog/olimexstm32-h103olimexjtagusbminifedoralin…

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[fedora-electronic-lab] GNUSim8085 v1.3.6 Released
by Aanjhan R 02 Mar '10

02 Mar '10

GNUSim8085 development team is pleased to release version 1.3.6 of its 8085 simulator for Linux and Windows platforms. This is the first stable version after moving over to launchpad for our project management. With this release we bring to our users a wide range of new additions. To read the complete release announcement head here [1]. We appreciate your continued support in the form of bug reports (with patches ;)) and general feedback. Feel free to ask questions and get support through Launchpad's Answers interface. You can join our development team here - https://launchpad.net/~gnusim8085-devel . We always have some work. Some key highlights of this release are as follows * The UI is now internationalized. Translations for Arabic, Asturian, Catalan, Esperanto, French, German, Gujarati, Italian, Kannada and Spanish languages are now in place. * Printing support is added. * Improved Windows installer with multi-language interface. * Several UI modifications to enhance user experience. * A dozen bug fixes. [1] https://lists.launchpad.net/gnusim8085-devel/msg00050.html Kindly update your distro packages. -- GNUSim8085 devel team

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