[Fedora-electronic-lab] FEL website clarification

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi Chitlesh,

Couple of clarifications required. In the website:
http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/

1. It mentions, "No licenses required and it is free". Sometimes,
customers only ask for 'licensed' software, and Free/Open Source
Software _is_ licensed. Can this be re-phrased to something like
"Licensed software and free to use, modify and distribute"?

2. Can we also mention it as "Free/"Open Source EDA community
provider/builder etc.?

Regards,

SK

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Shakthi Kannan  wrote:
> Hi Chitlesh,
>
> Couple of clarifications required. In the website:
> http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/

The new website is http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/. All the
contents of http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/ are now in
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/. I have to :
- fix all the images so that css overlay feature works on the images
- update the contents with respect to new solutions we provide

once I've fixed these, I'll redirect
http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/ to
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/

If anyone feels that I miss something some features of their tools on
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel#portfolio, please let me know.
> It mentions, "No licenses required and it is free". Sometimes,
>
> customers only ask for 'licensed' software, and Free/Open Source
> Software _is_ licensed. Can this be re-phrased to something like
> "Licensed software and free to use, modify and distribute"?

True. This is indeed a confusion. The reason behind "No license" was
to differentiate between proprietary expensive node license, its
purchase and its configuration and no such thing with FOSS software.

How about changing this
> > > No licenses required and it is free.

into
> > > Free and Opensource licensed and NO purchase of extra licenses is required to activate its features.

?
> Can we also mention it as "Free/"Open Source EDA community
>
> provider/builder etc.?

Ok I will change it tonight.

Kind regards,
Chitlesh

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi,

--- On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH
 wrote:
| Free and Opensource licensed and NO purchase of extra licenses is
required to activate its features.
| ?
--

Yes, sounds good. This should answer their concern regarding licenses.

Thanks!

SK

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Shakthi Kannan <> wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, sounds good. This should answer their concern regarding licenses.

Ok then, I have updated the front page as per your recommendation. Can
you proof read it please ? I've enabled the overlay feature on the
images. Click on the images on the front page to see if it works as
expected at your place too. Afterwards, I'll do the same for the other
pages.

http://spins.fedoraproject.org/

I've also updated the #publication page with respect to Laurent
Charpentier's presentation last week.
@Laurent, can you please proof read your section and tell me if it suits you ?

Cheers,
Chitlesh

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH  wrote:
> I've also updated the #publication page with respect to Laurent
> Charpentier's presentation last week.
> @Laurent, can you please proof read your section and tell me if it suits you ?

It will take about one hour till the servers get synced.

Though I have not yet added new contents about the recent features,
the old FEL website http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/ will now be
redirected to http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/ . Thus now we can
concentrate on this new website.

The sources are accessible as documented here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/ShowUs

Cheers,
Chitlesh

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi,

I have modified CSS from:
http://fedoraproject.org/static/css/fedora.css

so it could be used for FEL Trac. The major change is the size of the
text font. If you would like to try it, please do the following:

1. Install dependencies:

# yum install trac mod_python

2. Get the sample sources:

$ wget http://shakthimaan.fedorapeople.org/SOURCES/trac-december-15-2009.tar.bz2
  $ tar xjvf trac-december-15-2009.tar.bz2

This will extract to a trac/ folder.

3. Run the server:

$ tracd --port 8000 /path/to/trac

You can now check the browser at http://localhost:8000 to see how the
UI looks. Please feel free to make any CSS changes. The main CSS file
is in trac/htdocs/fedora.css. Or, if we want to give this task to the
Fedora Design Team, we can do so too.

Here is a screenshot of how it looks:
http://shakthimaan.fedorapeople.org/pics/fel-trac-december-15-2009-screensho...

SK

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Shakthi Kannan <> wrote:
> You can now check the browser at http://localhost:8000 to see how the
> UI looks. Please feel free to make any CSS changes. The main CSS file
> is in trac/htdocs/fedora.css. Or, if we want to give this task to the
> Fedora Design Team, we can do so too.
>
> Here is a screenshot of how it looks:
> http://shakthimaan.fedorapeople.org/pics/fel-trac-december-15-2009-screensho...

Aah that's way better than the reddish trac.
Great work.

For a long time, I wanted to try themeengine plugin for trac, but
never got the time to set up trac.
http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/RPMS/trac-themeengine-plugin-2.0-1.svn7147....

I was told that the blue-ish colour can be set with it from the admin
interface with the mouse. Can you try it please ?

As for the FEL's website and the trac are the Fedora Website team
responsibility. But the design team contributors are also subscribed
to the websites mailing list.

Chitlesh

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi,

--- On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH
 wrote:
| As for the FEL's website and the trac are the Fedora Website team
| responsibility. But the design team contributors are also subscribed
| to the websites mailing list.
--

Should I go ahead, and make a request to the Fedora Website team to
make changes to the CSS of FEL trac website?

SK

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Shakthi Kannan <> wrote:
> Should I go ahead, and make a request to the Fedora Website team to
> make changes to the CSS of FEL trac website?

Please go ahead. Himanshu and Ricky on #fedora-websites are the key persons.

Had you tried the theme-engine already ?

Chitlesh

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi,

--- On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH
 wrote:
| Please go ahead. Himanshu and Ricky on #fedora-websites are the key persons.
--

Ok. You can follow the ticket from here:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/8

---
| Had you tried the theme-engine already ?
--

Not yet. Let Fedora Website team take lead here, while we can give
them suggestions/feedback.

SK