[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Now focussing on FEL 11

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

Hello there,

We have discussed previously the entrance of the following packages:
* systemc - license issue
* electric - java issue, sun java is still not an option
* tkgate - local issues upstream doesn't want to fix.

Aanjhan, any news about electric ?
Thibault, any news from tkgate's developer?

As for the "systemc", after much back and forth between, TomCallaway,
Red Hat legal and the OSCI (the
SystemC people), they decided not to make any changes to their
license, due to the cost and time it would take to do so.

TomCallaway has added the OSCI SystemC License to the Fedora Licensing
list as a Bad License, due to its non-free status. Thus systemc will
not go into FEL collection.

Today, Fedoa10 Preview will be released. And at the end of this month,
FEL10 will be officially out, with the release of Fedora 10. I would
like to thank ThibaultNorth and Aanjhan for their enormous help during
the FEL10 development cycle, as I was scarcely around during June and
July.

Though I'm still waiting for my own internet connection from Belgacom,
I would like to invite you all to start focussing on FEL 11. I guess
it will be out in April 2009.

I have invited Jochen Roth (from IBM) to join this mailing list. He
has been introducing Binutils for the SPU on IBM Cell processors on
Fedora 10 and EPEL.

Now, what do you guys would like to include in FEL11 ? Please propose
some key areas of electronic design which you think we should work and
include into fedora ?

Let's say we set one month to discuss what we all wish? Then I'll
schedule a timetable and gather enough human resources to get the job
done in time :)

regards,
Chitlesh

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi,

--- On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH
<chitlesh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
| Let's say we set one month to discuss what we all wish?
\--

I would like to come up with training materials for the various
software that can be used to get students/interested folks into
working with you guys, as well, as try to use it as a means for their
regular course/lab work. Maybe it exists already?

We can take one package at a time from concepts, to simple examples,
to training.

Let me know,

SK

-- 
Shakthi Kannan
http://www.shakthimaan.com

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Shakthi Kannan < email_hidden > wrote:
>  I would like to come up with training materials for the various
>  software that can be used to get students/interested folks into
>  working with you guys, as well, as try to use it as a means for their
>  regular course/lab work. Maybe it exists already?
>
>  We can take one package at a time from concepts, to simple examples,
>  to training.
>
>  Let me know,
>  
Hello,

I flew over your page: http://shakthimaan.com/downloads.html
You already have some interesting materials to start with :) A careful
packaging of those and that of other opensource projects could be a
good start.

I welcome this initiative, but I think _here_, we have to clarify on
"training" and "documentation".

Our tasks as packagers/maintainers of FEL are like a CAD/EDA engineer.
Providing enough _documentation_ about how those tools are used is
also part of the job of any CAD engineer.

But as for _training_, this demands enough technical skills. However I
believe this will be a very good example how to make money with
opensource software :)

Or else better, Fedora Ambassadors(like us) trains students on how to
use those tools (like a crash course) to fund Fedora events around the
country hahaha.

By the way, Shakti, you have done good presentations in the past. Have
you thought about becoming a fedora ambassador ? If yes, I can help
you become one _Very_ soon :)

regards,
Chitlesh

[Aanjhan R]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH <chitlesh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  By the way, Shakti, you have done good presentations in the past.
> Have
>  you thought about becoming a fedora ambassador ? If yes, I can help
>  you become one _Very_ soon :) 
I must say you are too good at pulling Debian guys into fedora. But
Debian/Ubuntu still Rocks :P

Well on a serious note, I guess we can package some of those VHDL
examples and provide them as vhdl-docs or some such? Just an idea out
of the blue. But we can always refine it.

Regards,
Aanjhan

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi Chitlesh,

--- On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH <chitlesh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
| Have
| you thought about becoming a fedora ambassador ?
\--

I am not very keen on titles/designations. Just help around for a
cause. Thanks, anyways!

I use different distros, for different tasks, so not stuck to any one.

SK

-- 
Shakthi Kannan
http://www.shakthimaan.com

[Thibault North]

Le Friday, 10. October 2008 12:35:03 pm Chitlesh GOORAH, vous avez écrit :

> [...]
>  Thibault, any news from tkgate's developer? 
There was an issue about locales, which are not handled like the Fedora rules 
ask for.

I need to look a bit deeper at it, and will maybe need help of someone used to 
it.
The discussion with tkgate's developer ended too quickly because of exams and 
LinuxTag coming.

Cheers,
Thibault