[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: Urgent: Fedora Electronic Lab + Educational SW

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin <danishka(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi Chitlesh,
>
>  How are you?
>  Next week I have two workshops for school teachers and it mainly for
>  non-tech and windows based school teachers . Basically I will give them a
>  hands on training for how to install Fedora, updates, and relevant
>  educational packages.
>
>  More over I will do few more workshops  for the next year as well.
>
>  Can you do me a favor?
>
>  I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
>  As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
>  Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational sofwares.
>  Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.
>
>  I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
>  Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
>  Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational software.
>
>  * Why I can't do it myself?
>  Here I have a poor ADSL connectivity.
>  So, running a script and downloading hole stuff for trial and error is much
>  difficult.
>
>  So, pls help me. I really want to spread FEL with other Fedora stuff. :)
>
>  Waiting for  a positive response.
>
>  Best Regards,
>  Danishka
>  
Dear Danishka,

I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.

If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
educational software.
Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
yum install any electronic software.

Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
- I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
- the use of educational software is vast and targets various
categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.

Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
for such a spin through this email.

Thereby I invite you to join our Fedora Ambassador Project and be one
of our Fedora Ambassadors. You can also meet other Fedora Ambassadors
in your region who might help you as well for your events.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors

Kind regards,
Chitlesh

[Sebastian Dziallas]

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
>  On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin
> <danishka(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > Hi Chitlesh,
> >
> > How are you?
> > Next week I have two workshops for school teachers and it mainly for
> > non-tech and windows based school teachers . Basically I will give them a
> > hands on training for how to install Fedora, updates, and relevant
> > educational packages.
> >
> > More over I will do few more workshops  for the next year as well.
> >
> > Can you do me a favor?
> >
> > I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
> > As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
> > Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational sofwares.
> > Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.
> >
> > I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
> > Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
> > Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational software.
> >
> > * Why I can't do it myself?
> > Here I have a poor ADSL connectivity.
> > So, running a script and downloading hole stuff for trial and error is much
> > difficult.
> >
> > So, pls help me. I really want to spread FEL with other Fedora stuff. :)
> >
> > Waiting for  a positive response.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Danishka
> >
>  
>  Dear Danishka,
>  
>  I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.
>  
>  If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
>  educational software.
>  Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
>  yum install any electronic software.
>  
>  Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
>  FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
>  - I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
>  - the use of educational software is vast and targets various
>  categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
>  them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
>  Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
>  list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin. 
Ping! Hi there :)

Well, we've an education spin, as well as a special interest group [1] 
for educational stuff.

But, er... I need to admit, the spin which you can currently grab from 
spins.fedoraproject.org only includes mathematical applications. If you 
want to get further information, you might want to look at the feature 
page here [3].

Unfortunately, it became quite calm around the Edu SIG, but I'm still 
hoping that this doesn't need to be the end.

For example, you could add your name to the wiki and we can try to get 
something off the ground :). Our last meeting on IRC also happened some 
time ago - if you're interested in joining, I'd be happy to welcome you!

I've been working on some Sugar & OLPC stuff recently, but I believe a 
spin with educational or scientific apps is still heavily needed. Maybe 
we should also expand our goals: Just focusing on mathematical 
applications might have been not the best idea. Maybe we could also 
cooperate with other groups in Fedora (with educational or scientific 
goals) concerning the creation of a spin.

But I still feel that without feedback or ideas from other people, it's 
somehow hard to get something started. Like Chitlesh said, a list of the 
software you want use would be great.

>  Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
>  workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
>  while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
>  for such a spin through this email. 
This might be a solution, too. But nevertheless, I think feedback or 
ideas concerning a possible spin would be very helpful!

>  Thereby I invite you to join our Fedora Ambassador Project and be
> one
>  of our Fedora Ambassadors. You can also meet other Fedora Ambassadors
>  in your region who might help you as well for your events.
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
>  
>  Kind regards,
>  Chitlesh 
By the way: You might also want to join our mailing list [3].
And please don't hesitate to contact me directly ;).

--Sebastian

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EducationMathSpin
[3] http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-education-list

[Danishka Navin]

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>  Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin <danishka(a)gmail.com&gt; 
> > wrote:
> >> Hi Chitlesh,
> >>
> >> How are you?
> >> Next week I have two workshops for school teachers and it mainly for
> >> non-tech and windows based school teachers . Basically I will give 
> >> them a
> >> hands on training for how to install Fedora, updates, and relevant
> >> educational packages.
> >>
> >> More over I will do few more workshops  for the next year as well.
> >>
> >> Can you do me a favor?
> >>
> >> I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
> >> As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
> >> Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational sofwares.
> >> Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.
> >>
> >> I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
> >> Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
> >> Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational software.
> >>
> >> * Why I can't do it myself?
> >> Here I have a poor ADSL connectivity.
> >> So, running a script and downloading hole stuff for trial and error 
> >> is much
> >> difficult.
> >>
> >> So, pls help me. I really want to spread FEL with other Fedora 
> >> stuff. :)
> >>
> >> Waiting for  a positive response.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Danishka
> >>
> >
> > Dear Danishka,
> >
> > I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.
> >
> > If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
> > educational software.
> > Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
> > yum install any electronic software.
> >
> > Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
> > FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
> > - I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
> > - the use of educational software is vast and targets various
> > categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
> > them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
> > Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
> > list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.
>
>  Ping! Hi there :)
>
>  Well, we've an education spin, as well as a special interest group [1] 
>  for educational stuff. 
I have joined to the team
>  But, er... I need to admit, the spin which you can currently grab from 
>  spins.fedoraproject.org only includes mathematical applications. If 
>  you want to get further information, you might want to look at the 
>  feature page here [3].
>
>  Unfortunately, it became quite calm around the Edu SIG, but I'm still 
>  hoping that this doesn't need to be the end.
>
>  For example, you could add your name to the wiki and we can try to get 
>  something off the ground :). Our last meeting on IRC also happened 
>  some time ago - if you're interested in joining, I'd be happy to 
>  welcome you!
>
>  I've been working on some Sugar & OLPC stuff recently, but I believe a 
>  spin with educational or scientific apps is still heavily needed. 
>  Maybe we should also expand our goals: Just focusing on mathematical 
>  applications might have been not the best idea. Maybe we could also 
>  cooperate with other groups in Fedora (with educational or scientific 
>  goals) concerning the creation of a spin.
>
>  But I still feel that without feedback or ideas from other people, 
>  it's somehow hard to get something started. Like Chitlesh said, a list 
>  of the software you want use would be great.
>
> > Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
> > workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
> > while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
> > for such a spin through this email.
>
>  This might be a solution, too. But nevertheless, I think feedback or 
>  ideas concerning a possible spin would be very helpful! 
Hi Sebastian,

My target is adding possible software's which covers  all (but possible) 
school education subjects.

Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts, 
Electronics, etc
for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.
> > Thereby I invite you to join our Fedora Ambassador Project and be one
> > of our Fedora Ambassadors. You can also meet other Fedora Ambassadors
> > in your region who might help you as well for your events.
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Chitlesh
>
>  By the way: You might also want to join our mailing list [3]. 
Yes, I did :)
>  And please don't hesitate to contact me directly ;). 
Sure!
>  --Sebastian
>
>  [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education
>  [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EducationMathSpin
>  [3] http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-education-list
>

[Sebastian Dziallas]

Danishka Navin wrote:
>  Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> > Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin <danishka(a)gmail.com&gt; 
> >> wrote: 
[...] snip!
> >>> I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
> >>> As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
> >>> Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational sofwares.
> >>> Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.
> >>>
> >>> I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
> >>> Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
> >>> Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational software.
[...] snip!
> >>
> >> Dear Danishka,
> >>
> >> I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.
> >>
> >> If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
> >> educational software.
> >> Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
> >> yum install any electronic software.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
> >> FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
> >> - I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
> >> - the use of educational software is vast and targets various
> >> categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
> >> them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
> >> Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
> >> list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.
> >
> > Ping! Hi there :)
> >
> > Well, we've an education spin, as well as a special interest group [1] 
> > for educational stuff.
>  I have joined to the team 
Welcome and thanks for joining! :)

> > But, er... I need to admit, the spin which you can currently grab
> from 
> > spins.fedoraproject.org only includes mathematical applications. If 
> > you want to get further information, you might want to look at the 
> > feature page here [3].
> >
> > Unfortunately, it became quite calm around the Edu SIG, but I'm still 
> > hoping that this doesn't need to be the end.
> >
> > For example, you could add your name to the wiki and we can try to get 
> > something off the ground :). Our last meeting on IRC also happened 
> > some time ago - if you're interested in joining, I'd be happy to 
> > welcome you!
> >
> > I've been working on some Sugar & OLPC stuff recently, but I believe a 
> > spin with educational or scientific apps is still heavily needed. 
> > Maybe we should also expand our goals: Just focusing on mathematical 
> > applications might have been not the best idea. Maybe we could also 
> > cooperate with other groups in Fedora (with educational or scientific 
> > goals) concerning the creation of a spin.
> >
> > But I still feel that without feedback or ideas from other people, 
> > it's somehow hard to get something started. Like Chitlesh said, a list 
> > of the software you want use would be great.
> >
> >> Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
> >> workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
> >> while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
> >> for such a spin through this email.
> >
> > This might be a solution, too. But nevertheless, I think feedback or 
> > ideas concerning a possible spin would be very helpful!
>  
>  Hi Sebastian,
>  
>  My target is adding possible software's which covers  all (but possible) 
>  school education subjects.
>  
>  Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts, 
>  Electronics, etc
>  for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them. 
Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should also 
evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it doesn't 
really make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry programs, 
right?

Maybe we should just have a quick meeting on IRC, if you want to. How 
about this Monday, 1800 UTC on #fedora-edu on Freenode? If this time 
doesn't work for you or somebody else here around, please let me know!

Rex? What do you think? And others: Of course, you're invited to join!

--Sebastian

> >> Thereby I invite you to join our Fedora Ambassador Project
> and be one
> >> of our Fedora Ambassadors. You can also meet other Fedora Ambassadors
> >> in your region who might help you as well for your events.
> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Chitlesh
> >
> > By the way: You might also want to join our mailing list [3].
>  Yes, I did :)
> > And please don't hesitate to contact me directly ;).
>  
>  Sure!
> >
> > --Sebastian
> >
> > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education
> > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EducationMathSpin
> > [3] http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-education-list

[Danishka Navin]

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>  Danishka Navin wrote:
> > Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> >> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin 
> >>> <danishka(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  [...] snip!
> >>>> I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
> >>>> As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
> >>>> Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational 
> >>>> sofwares.
> >>>> Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
> >>>> Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
> >>>> Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational 
> >>>> software.
>  [...] snip!
> >>>
> >>> Dear Danishka,
> >>>
> >>> I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.
> >>>
> >>> If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
> >>> educational software.
> >>> Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
> >>> yum install any electronic software.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
> >>> FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
> >>> - I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
> >>> - the use of educational software is vast and targets various
> >>> categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
> >>> them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
> >>> Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
> >>> list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.
> >>
> >> Ping! Hi there :)
> >>
> >> Well, we've an education spin, as well as a special interest group 
> >> [1] for educational stuff.
> > I have joined to the team
>
>  Welcome and thanks for joining! :)
>
> >> But, er... I need to admit, the spin which you can currently grab 
> >> from spins.fedoraproject.org only includes mathematical 
> >> applications. If you want to get further information, you might want 
> >> to look at the feature page here [3].
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, it became quite calm around the Edu SIG, but I'm 
> >> still hoping that this doesn't need to be the end.
> >>
> >> For example, you could add your name to the wiki and we can try to 
> >> get something off the ground :). Our last meeting on IRC also 
> >> happened some time ago - if you're interested in joining, I'd be 
> >> happy to welcome you!
> >>
> >> I've been working on some Sugar & OLPC stuff recently, but I believe 
> >> a spin with educational or scientific apps is still heavily needed. 
> >> Maybe we should also expand our goals: Just focusing on mathematical 
> >> applications might have been not the best idea. Maybe we could also 
> >> cooperate with other groups in Fedora (with educational or 
> >> scientific goals) concerning the creation of a spin.
> >>
> >> But I still feel that without feedback or ideas from other people, 
> >> it's somehow hard to get something started. Like Chitlesh said, a 
> >> list of the software you want use would be great.
> >>
> >>> Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
> >>> workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
> >>> while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
> >>> for such a spin through this email.
> >>
> >> This might be a solution, too. But nevertheless, I think feedback or 
> >> ideas concerning a possible spin would be very helpful!
> >
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > My target is adding possible software's which covers  all (but 
> > possible) school education subjects.
> >
> > Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts, 
> > Electronics, etc
> > for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.
>
>  Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should 
>  also evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it 
>  doesn't really make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry 
>  programs, right?
>  
yes, exactly
>  Maybe we should just have a quick meeting on IRC, if you want to. How
>
>  about this Monday, 1800 UTC on #fedora-edu on Freenode? If this time 
>  doesn't work for you or somebody else here around, please let me know! 
my nick name is 'hanthana'

Sorry, Monday I have to travel to Matale via Kandy for my 1st 
two_day_workshop.
Btw, Right now I am online :)

Danishka
>  Rex? What do you think? And others: Of course, you're invited to join!
>
>  --Sebastian
>
> >>> Thereby I invite you to join our Fedora Ambassador Project and be one
> >>> of our Fedora Ambassadors. You can also meet other Fedora Ambassadors
> >>> in your region who might help you as well for your events.
> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Chitlesh
> >>
> >> By the way: You might also want to join our mailing list [3].
> > Yes, I did :)
> >> And please don't hesitate to contact me directly ;).
> >
> > Sure!
> >>
> >> --Sebastian
> >>
> >> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education
> >> [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EducationMathSpin
> >> [3] http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-education-list
>

[Danishka Navin]

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>  Danishka Navin wrote:
> > Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> >> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin 
> >>> <danishka(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  [...] snip!
> >>>> I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
> >>>> As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
> >>>> Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational 
> >>>> sofwares.
> >>>> Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
> >>>> Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
> >>>> Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational 
> >>>> software.
>  [...] snip!
> >>>
> >>> Dear Danishka,
> >>>
> >>> I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.
> >>>
> >>> If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
> >>> educational software.
> >>> Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
> >>> yum install any electronic software.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
> >>> FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
> >>> - I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
> >>> - the use of educational software is vast and targets various
> >>> categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
> >>> them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
> >>> Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
> >>> list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.
> >>
> >> Ping! Hi there :)
> >>
> >> Well, we've an education spin, as well as a special interest group 
> >> [1] for educational stuff.
> > I have joined to the team
>
>  Welcome and thanks for joining! :)
>
> >> But, er... I need to admit, the spin which you can currently grab 
> >> from spins.fedoraproject.org only includes mathematical 
> >> applications. If you want to get further information, you might want 
> >> to look at the feature page here [3].
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, it became quite calm around the Edu SIG, but I'm 
> >> still hoping that this doesn't need to be the end.
> >>
> >> For example, you could add your name to the wiki and we can try to 
> >> get something off the ground :). Our last meeting on IRC also 
> >> happened some time ago - if you're interested in joining, I'd be 
> >> happy to welcome you!
> >>
> >> I've been working on some Sugar & OLPC stuff recently, but I believe 
> >> a spin with educational or scientific apps is still heavily needed. 
> >> Maybe we should also expand our goals: Just focusing on mathematical 
> >> applications might have been not the best idea. Maybe we could also 
> >> cooperate with other groups in Fedora (with educational or 
> >> scientific goals) concerning the creation of a spin.
> >>
> >> But I still feel that without feedback or ideas from other people, 
> >> it's somehow hard to get something started. Like Chitlesh said, a 
> >> list of the software you want use would be great.
> >>
> >>> Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
> >>> workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
> >>> while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
> >>> for such a spin through this email.
> >>
> >> This might be a solution, too. But nevertheless, I think feedback or 
> >> ideas concerning a possible spin would be very helpful!
> >
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > My target is adding possible software's which covers  all (but 
> > possible) school education subjects.
> >
> > Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts, 
> > Electronics, etc
> > for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.
>
>  Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should 
>  also evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it 
>  doesn't really make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry 
>  programs, right?
>  
for the Fedora Edu Spin single geometry program is enough but for a 
'geometry' spin we can add all geometry programs.
That's what Chitlesh doing  for the FEL.
He is selecting all Electronic programs, but we can select only best 
suited program(s).

Danishka

>  Maybe we should just have a quick meeting on IRC, if you want to. How
>
>  about this Monday, 1800 UTC on #fedora-edu on Freenode? If this time 
>  doesn't work for you or somebody else here around, please let me know!
>
>  Rex? What do you think? And others: Of course, you're invited to join!
>
>  --Sebastian

[Danishka Navin]

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>  Danishka Navin wrote:
> > Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> >> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin 
> >>> <danishka(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  [...] snip!
> >>>> I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
> >>>> As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
> >>>> Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational 
> >>>> sofwares.
> >>>> Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
> >>>> Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
> >>>> Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational 
> >>>> software.
>  [...] snip!
> >>>
> >>> Dear Danishka,
> >>>
> >>> I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.
> >>>
> >>> If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
> >>> educational software.
> >>> Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
> >>> yum install any electronic software.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
> >>> FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
> >>> - I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
> >>> - the use of educational software is vast and targets various
> >>> categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
> >>> them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
> >>> Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
> >>> list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.
> >>
> >> Ping! Hi there :)
> >>
> >> Well, we've an education spin, as well as a special interest group 
> >> [1] for educational stuff.
> > I have joined to the team
>
>  Welcome and thanks for joining! :)
>
> >> But, er... I need to admit, the spin which you can currently grab 
> >> from spins.fedoraproject.org only includes mathematical 
> >> applications. If you want to get further information, you might want 
> >> to look at the feature page here [3].
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, it became quite calm around the Edu SIG, but I'm 
> >> still hoping that this doesn't need to be the end.
> >>
> >> For example, you could add your name to the wiki and we can try to 
> >> get something off the ground :). Our last meeting on IRC also 
> >> happened some time ago - if you're interested in joining, I'd be 
> >> happy to welcome you!
> >>
> >> I've been working on some Sugar & OLPC stuff recently, but I believe 
> >> a spin with educational or scientific apps is still heavily needed. 
> >> Maybe we should also expand our goals: Just focusing on mathematical 
> >> applications might have been not the best idea. Maybe we could also 
> >> cooperate with other groups in Fedora (with educational or 
> >> scientific goals) concerning the creation of a spin.
> >>
> >> But I still feel that without feedback or ideas from other people, 
> >> it's somehow hard to get something started. Like Chitlesh said, a 
> >> list of the software you want use would be great.
> >>
> >>> Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
> >>> workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
> >>> while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
> >>> for such a spin through this email.
> >>
> >> This might be a solution, too. But nevertheless, I think feedback or 
> >> ideas concerning a possible spin would be very helpful!
> >
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > My target is adding possible software's which covers  all (but 
> > possible) school education subjects.
> >
> > Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts, 
> > Electronics, etc
> > for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.
>
>  Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should 
>  also evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it 
>  doesn't really make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry 
>  programs, right?
>
>  Maybe we should just have a quick meeting on IRC, if you want to. How 
>  about this Monday, 1800 UTC on #fedora-edu on Freenode? If this time 
>  doesn't work for you or somebody else here around, please let me know!  
1800
UTC (local time ~ 2330) is not convenient for me  during next week. 
( I am away from home)
How about  Thursday or Friday at UTC 1200 or 1300?