Re: FAD proposal improvement request
by Anthony Mogrovejo
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El 25 may. 2017 5:50 p. m., "yrazes" <yrazes(a)gmail.com> escribió:
Ok Alejandro, Bex and Lucena.
I have seen recently the link that Alex just gave me
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Cusco2017
It seems that everything is already arranged, including topics and costs.
In that case I do not see why I have to arrange a FAD in USIL.
Can I add my name on it to participate on July?
Thanks,
Julita
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis <
alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all, I think is a good moment to clarify some things.
>
> I looked some FAD pages and it's true that these activities hasn't a
> promotional component (talks or workshops) but in this proposal I included
> a small part of talks to interact with users and students. The second
> purpose is to have the possibility of negotiations with a dean or academic
> coordinator to get a free or cheap venue for the ambassadors work and talks
> to users.
>
> The talks hours are smaller than the other activities that are important.
>
> El jue., 25 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 15:06, Brian Exelbierd <bex(a)pobox.com>
> escribió:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 25, 2017, at 09:38 PM, alejandro perez wrote:
>>
>> Hi Julita,
>>
>> Normally FAD's do not have a promotion event. There has been two times
>> where FAD budgets where requested and deny because they contain some
>> promotional event or time. That is why I want to make sure you understand
>> the limitation on FAD. It is not up to me to decide if the event will be
>> approve, therefore my intention is to consider the possibility of no
>> promotional event.
>>
>>
>> I don't don't know this history, but wearing my council hat, I can't see
>> why a promotion component would lead to automatic denial.
>>
>> However, I would want to understand how this compent was good for LATAM
>> or the country or the city. I'd want to know how it ties to the mission, if
>> appropriate. I'd want to know how it will be followed up or prepared for to
>> ensure positive impact.
>>
>>
>> However, my biggest concern would be that it be clear this promotion
>> won't prevent the rest of the FAD from accomplishing its goals.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> bex
>>
>>
>> How ever you can do packaging workshops or translation sprint (as
>> example) with people that are already familiar with Fedora and want to
>> become contributors.
>>
>> This may work better with the FAD proposal, specially if you have some
>> people prepare for that.
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>
>> *Fecha*: Thu, 25 May 2017 14:12:03 -0500
>> *Asunto*: [Embajadores-fedora-latam] Re: FAD proposal improvement request
>> *Para*: Latin American Fedora Ambassadors <embajadores-fedor
>> <Latin%20American%20Fedora%20Ambassadors%20%3cembajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org%3e>
>> a-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> <Latin%20American%20Fedora%20Ambassadors%20%3cembajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org%3e>
>> >
>> Reply-to: Latin American Fedora Ambassadors <
>> embajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
>> *De*: yrazes <yrazes(a)gmail.com <yrazes%20%3cyrazes(a)gmail.com%3e>>
>> Hi Alejandro
>>
>> What I followed so far (please correct me in case I am wrong), is that I
>> could arrange in Lima a place with facilities as labs with good Internet
>> connection, searching hotels and restaurants for at least 7 ambassadors
>> from LATAM (I do not know exactly who is invited yet).
>>
>> I am also aware about the purspose of the meeting: to state some
>> procedures face to face in order to have a better Fedora community.
>>
>> I mentioned the coliseum as part of the event (two hours for the first
>> day) because as you know I do per year at least five or six events to
>> promote Fedora and still people in Lima, we have a low percentage of
>> knowledge about Linux. And, because I can not go everywhere all the time to
>> do more workshops (because I also need to work), I did a free online
>> tutorial of Fedora to everyone in Backtrackacademy. [01]
>>
>>
>> I "though" that it could be great if I have the honour to have all of you
>> in Lima (Ambassadors with expertise in Fedora) I could do one public event
>> day with all of you as speakers and trainers that can teach my local
>> people to do real contributions as packaging, translations, wiki
>> manteiners, among other activities.
>>
>> The coliseum could be useful for the first two hours (for install
>> activities to everyone in Lima who is intersted in having Fedora).
>> Please believe me, if this activity is so simple for most of us, for
>> newbies is a challenge in case they have Wifi problems and other technician
>> issue that I know can happen.
>>
>> The second day (this plan is still in my head) we can do more private
>> meetings to set up (with a better view from the previous day) the actions
>> and plans to have a better community.
>>
>> I know that before I have you online in my events but it is not the same
>> to have a face to face training or talk to somebody in person.
>> In this sense, I will always appreciate the labor of Neville, because he
>> is always available anytime to response with a online talk to my people in
>> Lima.
>>
>>
>> Please let me know if Fedora still want me to do that event in USIL,
>> Lima, Peru in July to present a formal plan to the authorities.
>>
>> Best,
>> Julita
>>
>> [01] http://backtrackacademy.com/curso/iniciando-gnu-linux
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:35 PM, alejandro perez <aeperezt(a)hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Julita,
>>
>> Keep in mind this is a FAD it is dedicated to Fedora Contributors (or
>> interested parties) , to get together and produce some results, not a
>> promotional event, because of that it will be some sort of close meeting,
>> event do out side people are welcome cannot be a massive event with talks.
>>
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>
>> *Fecha*: Tue, 23 May 2017 15:07:56 -0500
>> *Asunto*: [Embajadores-fedora-latam] Re: FAD proposal improvement request
>> *Para*: Latin American Fedora Ambassadors <embajadores-fedora-latam@list
>> s.fedoraproject.org
>> <Latin%20American%20Fedora%20Ambassadors%20%3cembajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org%3e>
>> >
>> Reply-to: Latin American Fedora Ambassadors <
>> embajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
>> *De*: yrazes <yrazes(a)gmail.com <yrazes%20%3cyrazes(a)gmail.com%3e>>
>> Hello Brian and ambassadors!
>>
>> I work in USIL, it is a private university and because all the events I
>> do, I have some contacts.
>>
>>
>> I have talk with the authorities at USIL to get a coliseum, labs and
>> auditorium.
>> http://www.usil.edu.pe/sedes/universidad-san-ignacio-loyola-
>> campus-la-molina
>>
>> I need dates and I also arranging a plan to follow since installation
>> until Fedora workshops.
>> I am going to check prices around for hotels and food.
>>
>> Please give me at least three days to do it :)
>> Thanks,
>> Julita
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Brian Exelbierd <bex(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 06:14 PM, Eduard Lucena wrote:
>>
>> Hello Brian,
>> Also there is a good discussion about this in the Spanish version of this
>> email. I think this idea is close to happen.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cool. I'm. It suggesting a specific place so anywhere appropriate and
>> easy to fly to is great.
>>
>> As a non-Spanish speaker I don't follow the Spanish discussions :). This
>> is also A-OK :)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> bex
>>
>> Br,
>>
>> 2017-05-22 12:12 GMT-04:00 Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis <
>> alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hello Brian, in the last meeting I requested someone to propose another
>> place inside or outside Peru to get a suitable venue (and assume the
>> logistic, auditorium, hotel, etc), but anybody propose any place but I will
>> to wait until tomorrow night.
>>
>> If you want to change the place, I can talk with ambassadors from Lima
>> (specially with bernardoha) I think he can get a suitable place. The costs
>> will decrease in at least 60 dollars by person.
>> Regards.
>>
>> El lun., 22 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 09:59, Brian Exelbierd <bex(a)pobox.com>
>> escribió:
>>
>> On Sat, May 20, 2017, at 03:30 PM, Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis wrote:
>>
>> Good morning, as some of you know, I was working on a proposal to carry
>> out an organizational FAD in Cusco City, this proposal was reviewed by some
>> people as robyduck and bex then was presented to the council giving a
>> relative positive result, but the proposal needs some improvements
>> specially in the following terms:
>>
>> - Improvement of the agenda and to establish the clear objectives.
>> - Incorporate the ideas of FAMSco regarding the organization of
>> ambassadors and related topics.
>>
>> Regarding the proposal itself, it can be reviewed at the following link:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Cusco2017
>>
>> As can be read, the FAD proposes to solve several problems like
>> organizative, budgetary, strategic and logistical so help us to be more
>> efficient and effective.
>>
>> About the participants, I considered an ambassador for each country that
>> is active and / or influential in their country, so that she/he can
>> replicate (transmit) the agreements of the other collaborators of their
>> countries. If the ambassadors of some country consider that they can be
>> represented by another person we can change their representative :-)
>>
>> About the dates, at first I put for the month of June but not bex hasn't
>> free time to attend the FAD and decided to change for the month of July
>> (13, 14 and 15) because in those days bex has time.
>>
>> About the place, I consulted with the ambassadors of Peru about the place
>> and we chosen Cusco as the venue, if there is any other proposal to change
>> the place (inside or outside of Peru) the interested people must commit to
>> get an suitable place to the meetings, talks and accomodation.
>>
>>
>> With regards to place, I believe Itamar suggested in the FAmSCo meeting
>> that choosing a different city might result in lower costs (especially for
>> airfare). I think Lima was suggested. I agree we need to have someone who
>> is willing to own finding the place to meet in whatever city we choose. I
>> second the call for someone to stand up and champion this if we can save
>> the money reasonably.
>>
>> Overall, this email is well stated and I hope there will be good
>> conversation in LATAM about this.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> bex
>>
>>
>>
>> * In summary, the FAD proposal can be improved in all its aspects,
>> therefore I request support to improve it and to have it approved so that
>> we can improve and grow the community. *
>>
>> PS: Sorry for this big email
>>
>> Greetings and thanks in advance.
>>
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