Hello
Just to inform that this semester I work Saturdays all day at UNI.
I could not be able to attend meetings lately for this reason.
Best,
Julita
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:08 PM, Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado <
echevemaster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for changing the name of the event to be more adapted to the
event
goal, please create a ticket (if does not exists) for discussing the topic
in the Saturday's meeting,
El jue., 1 de jun. de 2017 a la(s) 22:02, Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis <
alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com> escribió:
> Good evening everyone, to avoid the problem of cities where you can carry
> out the FAD I created a new wiki page at the following URL
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Latam_2017 . I added the cheaper
> costs of Julita and the costs of Cusco to have everything together.
>
> I changed to chilean representative to Eduard Lucena (X3mboy:
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:X3mboy) because he is very active
> and works in many groups in the community.
>
> Finally I will update the goals and the agenda tomorrow, I hope to get
> positive feedback in the saturday meeting.
>
> Best regards.
>
>
> Alex Oviedo
>
> El jue., 1 de jun. de 2017 a la(s) 21:34, yrazes <yrazes(a)gmail.com>
> escribió:
>
>> OK Neville!
>> I sent in the proposal the costs to airport - PUCP, hotels, taxis and
>> menus.
>> Please tell me what else is needed.
>> It is OK for me ;)
>> Julita
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Neville Cross <yn1v(a)taygon.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Julita
>>>
>>> I love the energy that you show toward Fedora Project. I can relate to
>>> your position as a power user (but you know much than me), there are
>>> areas that require further specialization to be a collaborator. Like to
>>> be a packager it is need to know several things beside be good at a
>>> programming language. things like git, specs, licenses and also the
>>> procedures within the project. I have been there helping you with
>>> whatever I can. But this time I feel that you are pushing your event
>>> under the name of FAD and you are not paying attention to the fact that
>>> FADs are to solve a problem witin Fedora. Several people have mentioned
>>> that FAD are not public events. So, please help us a bit. You can do
>>> both things but not at the same time. You can make a FAD and you can
>>> make a public event, but you can not have both at the same time.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Neville
>>>
>>> On Tue, 30 May 2017 16:58:32 -0500
>>> yrazes <yrazes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > Anytime I propose a new event or idea for Fedora, I get a -1 on
>>> > Saturday meetings all the time, because Alex always asks for a wiki.
>>> >
>>> > For this FAD in Peru I was not included at all since the very
>>> > beginning, so I though that preparing a proposal for Lima was a
>>> > different project because Cusco was so expensive.
>>> >
>>> > I belong Fedora since 2012, I only attended two Ambassador events,
>>> > Fudcon Cusco 2013 and Fudcon Puno 2016 and I did not see real
>>> > contribution of people to the project during these events.
>>> > In both events, we had Ambassadors with strong expertise and lot of
>>> > interested people that would have lead workshops (in my point of
>>> > view) to train ourselves or propose better ways to work.
>>> >
>>> > What I do in my events are installations and user interaction with
>>> > Fedora such as using the terminal to run basic admin commands.
>>> >
>>> > I dared to express my wish in the FAD Lima 2017 proposal for training
>>> > people one day because I have young enthusiastic students engaged with
>>> > Linux in Lima that I can not mentor in a proper way since I did not
>>> > do a real contribution to the Fedora project. I need the help of you
>>> > LATAM, and with the experience, I can later start the Fedora Lima
>>> > Challenge (in case you approve it).
>>> > My local team is aware of this FAD Lima 2017 proposal because I do not
>>> > things alone.
>>> >
>>> > Besides sending options that include the users focus day, I did sent
>>> > other there more options without them, that you might take.
>>> > In case you want to remove my proposal wiki, is up to you too.
>>> > In case you still need a place for FAD in Lima or wherever is going
>>> > to be, you have my support.
>>> >
>>> > Communication is very important in communities and more since we have
>>> > different cultures. As GNU/Linux leader in Lima, I want to do positive
>>> > things, please do not misunderstood my disclaim.
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Julita
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado
<
>>> > echevemaster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > El dom., 28 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 19:41, Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis
>>> > > < alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com> escribió:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Hello Julita, I wrote you: "send me the costs and I put
these into
>>> > >> the proposal" I didn't say in any time that you should
create a
>>> > >> new page.
>>> > >
>>> > > Please, work together, this is the first thing you as a team have
>>> > > to do. Learn to don't say "I" and say more
"We" it's a good
>>> > > exercise even if you are the only person of a team, this does
>>> > > people feeling involved.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I am the initial promoter of this proposal and I'm looking
for
>>> > >> improve and grow the community, since I showed it to the
council
>>> > >> and famsco I am looking for a consensus between the ambassadors
to
>>> > >> improve the objectives and agenda but it seems that you intend
to
>>> > >> impose your criteria creating a new page without asking to
others
>>> > >> changing the schedule and other aspects as justification,
purpose,
>>> > >> goals, etc.
>>> > >
>>> > > I agree with Alex at this point, we want leadership in the people,
>>> > > not people attracting attention.
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Finally, as Alejandro and echevemaster says, the main idea for
>>> > >> this FAD is work in fedora related tasks and offer solutions,
I
>>> > >> put few talks to help to get free venue within universities or
>>> > >> other places but no as users centric event.
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > > If you guys want to include a user component, you can do the same
>>> > > that Nicaragua did for invite people to Fudcon, visit some
>>> > > universities explaining how it works Fedora community and why is
>>> > > interesting belonging it. but please avoid become it in the main
>>> > > goal of the event -
>>> > >>
>>> > >> El dom., 28 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 19:27, Anthony Mogrovejo
<
>>> > >> tony001983(a)gmail.com> escribió:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> +1@echevemaster
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> El 28 may. 2017 7:01 p. m., "Eduardo Javier Echeverria
Alvarado"
>>> > >>> < echevemaster(a)gmail.com> escribió:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> El sáb., 27 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 22:19, yrazes
>>> > >>> <yrazes(a)gmail.com> escribió:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> Hello LATAM and bex:
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I have facilities to celebrate the event in two
private
>>> > >>>> universities in Lima such as PUCP and USIL.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Thanks for that.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> Based on the prices that you can see on the wiki, I
think the
>>> > >>>> best possibility is PUCP.
>>> > >>>> I dared to include outdoor activities to my guests and
also a
>>> > >>>> public event to train new possible contributors in
Lima
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> This is not a user event, this is a Fedora Activity Day, we
don't
>>> > >>> will have talks neither workshops, we will work in fedora
related
>>> > >>> tasks and offer solutions, so, please don't invite
people outside
>>> > >>> to the FAD. We need be focused.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> In case the majority of people do not agree, I also
present 3
>>> > >>>> more options because I know that I have to reduce
prices for FAD.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Cusco2017
>>> > >>>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Lima2017
>>> > >>> Please remove one of the wiki pages, this could be lead to
>>> > >>> misunderstandings
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Lima2017
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Please feel free to comment and tell me how to make it
better to
>>> > >>>> everyone.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Thanks for offering yourself for be one of the FAD
organisers
>>> > >>> along with
>>> > >>>> Alex y Tonet, I'm sure you guys will do great, just
join efforts
>>> > >>>> and keep the communication to be on the same page.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> Thanks,
>>> > >>>> Julita
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:00 PM, yrazes
<yrazes(a)gmail.com>
>>> > >>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>> OK I will send the proposal for Lima to be the
organizer of FAD
>>> > >>>>> Lima 2017.
>>> > >>>>> It is OK that Tonet could be the Peru
representative.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Regards,
>>> > >>>>> Julita
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Alex Irmel Oviedo
Solis <
>>> > >>>>> alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> Good night, Yulytas, the actual proposal for
Cusco is
>>> > >>>>>> expensive, the council and famsco recomend
evaluate the
>>> > >>>>>> posibility to change the place to Lima (the
airfares can be
>>> > >>>>>> cheaper but the hotel and food will be more
expensive than
>>> > >>>>>> Cusco) for that reason We need your help to get
the prices to
>>> > >>>>>> do this evaluation.
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> About your second question, We need a one
representative by
>>> > >>>>>> country, specially an influential and active
ambassador. I
>>> > >>>>>> choosed to Tonet because he is an active
ambassador, organized
>>> > >>>>>> a FUDCon and has more badges in Peru. You can
participate like
>>> > >>>>>> observer, I will participate as helper only.
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> Regards
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> El jue., 25 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 18:02,
Anthony Mogrovejo
>>> > >>>>>> < tony001983(a)gmail.com> escribió:
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> -1
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> El 25 may. 2017 5:50 p. m.,
"yrazes" <yrazes(a)gmail.com>
>>> > >>>>>>> escribió:
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> Ok Alejandro, Bex and Lucena.
>>> > >>>>>>> I have seen recently the link that Alex
just gave me
>>> > >>>>>>>
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Cusco2017
>>> > >>>>>>> It seems that everything is already
arranged, including
>>> > >>>>>>> topics and costs.
>>> > >>>>>>> In that case I do not see why I have to
arrange a FAD in USIL.
>>> > >>>>>>> Can I add my name on it to participate on
July?
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
>>> > >>>>>>> Julita
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Alex Irmel
Oviedo Solis <
>>> > >>>>>>> alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> Hello all, I think is a good moment to
clarify some things.
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> I looked some FAD pages and it's
true that these activities
>>> > >>>>>>>> hasn't a promotional component
(talks or workshops) but in
>>> > >>>>>>>> this proposal I included a small part
of talks to interact
>>> > >>>>>>>> with users and students. The second
purpose is to have the
>>> > >>>>>>>> possibility of negotiations with a dean
or academic
>>> > >>>>>>>> coordinator to get a free or cheap
venue for the ambassadors
>>> > >>>>>>>> work and talks to users.
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> The talks hours are smaller than the
other activities that
>>> > >>>>>>>> are important.
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> El jue., 25 de may. de 2017 a la(s)
15:06, Brian Exelbierd
>>> > >>>>>>>> < bex(a)pobox.com> escribió:
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 25, 2017, at 09:38 PM,
alejandro perez wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Julita,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Normally FAD's do not have a
promotion event. There has
>>> > >>>>>>>>> been two times where FAD budgets
where requested and deny
>>> > >>>>>>>>> because they contain some
promotional event or time. That
>>> > >>>>>>>>> is why I want to make sure you
understand the limitation on
>>> > >>>>>>>>> FAD. It is not up to me to decide
if the event will be
>>> > >>>>>>>>> approve, therefore my intention is
to consider the
>>> > >>>>>>>>> possibility of no promotional
event.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> I don't don't know this
history, but wearing my council
>>> > >>>>>>>>> hat, I can't see why a
promotion component would lead to
>>> > >>>>>>>>> automatic denial.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> However, I would want to understand
how this compent was
>>> > >>>>>>>>> good for LATAM or the country or
the city. I'd want to know
>>> > >>>>>>>>> how it ties to the mission, if
appropriate. I'd want to
>>> > >>>>>>>>> know how it will be followed up or
prepared for to ensure
>>> > >>>>>>>>> positive impact.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> However, my biggest concern would
be that it be clear this
>>> > >>>>>>>>> promotion won't prevent the
rest of the FAD from
>>> > >>>>>>>>> accomplishing its goals.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> bex
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> How ever you can do packaging
workshops or translation
>>> > >>>>>>>>> sprint (as example) with people
that are already familiar
>>> > >>>>>>>>> with Fedora and want to become
contributors.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> This may work better with the FAD
proposal, specially if
>>> > >>>>>>>>> you have some people prepare for
that.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Fecha*: Thu, 25 May 2017 14:12:03
-0500
>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Asunto*:
[Embajadores-fedora-latam] Re: FAD proposal
>>> > >>>>>>>>> improvement request
>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Para*: Latin American Fedora
Ambassadors <embajadores-fedor
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
<Latin%20American%20Fedora%20Ambassadors%20%
>>> 3cembajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org%3e>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> a-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
<Latin%20American%20Fedora%20Ambassadors%20%
>>> 3cembajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org%3e>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Reply-to: Latin American Fedora
Ambassadors <
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
embajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> *De*: yrazes <yrazes(a)gmail.com
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
<yrazes%20%3cyrazes(a)gmail.com%3e>> Hi Alejandro
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> What I followed so far (please
correct me in case I am
>>> > >>>>>>>>> wrong), is that I could arrange in
Lima a place with
>>> > >>>>>>>>> facilities as labs with good
Internet connection, searching
>>> > >>>>>>>>> hotels and restaurants for at
least 7 ambassadors from
>>> > >>>>>>>>> LATAM (I do not know exactly who is
invited yet).
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> I am also aware about the purspose
of the meeting: to state
>>> > >>>>>>>>> some procedures face to face in
order to have a better
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Fedora community.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> I mentioned the coliseum as part of
the event (two hours
>>> > >>>>>>>>> for the first day) because as you
know I do per year at
>>> > >>>>>>>>> least five or six events to promote
Fedora and still people
>>> > >>>>>>>>> in Lima, we have a low percentage
of knowledge about Linux.
>>> > >>>>>>>>> And, because I can not go
everywhere all the time to do
>>> > >>>>>>>>> more workshops (because I also need
to work), I did a free
>>> > >>>>>>>>> online tutorial of Fedora to
everyone in Backtrackacademy.
>>> > >>>>>>>>> [01]
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> I "though" that it could
be great if I have the honour to
>>> > >>>>>>>>> have all of you in Lima
(Ambassadors with expertise in
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Fedora) I could do one public event
day with all of you as
>>> > >>>>>>>>> speakers and trainers that can
teach my local people to do
>>> > >>>>>>>>> real contributions as packaging,
translations, wiki
>>> > >>>>>>>>> manteiners, among other
activities.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> The coliseum could be useful for
the first two hours (for
>>> > >>>>>>>>> install activities to everyone in
Lima who is intersted in
>>> > >>>>>>>>> having Fedora). Please believe me,
if this activity is so
>>> > >>>>>>>>> simple for most of us, for newbies
is a challenge in case
>>> > >>>>>>>>> they have Wifi problems and other
technician issue that I
>>> > >>>>>>>>> know can happen.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> The second day (this plan is still
in my head) we can do
>>> > >>>>>>>>> more private meetings to set up
(with a better view from
>>> > >>>>>>>>> the previous day) the actions and
plans to have a better
>>> > >>>>>>>>> community.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> I know that before I have you
online in my events but it is
>>> > >>>>>>>>> not the same to have a face to face
training or talk to
>>> > >>>>>>>>> somebody in person. In this sense,
I will always appreciate
>>> > >>>>>>>>> the labor of Neville, because he is
always available
>>> > >>>>>>>>> anytime to response with a online
talk to my people in Lima.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Please let me know if Fedora still
want me to do that event
>>> > >>>>>>>>> in USIL, Lima, Peru in July to
present a formal plan to the
>>> > >>>>>>>>> authorities.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best,
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Julita
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> [01]
http://backtrackacademy.com/curso/iniciando-gnu-linux
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:35 PM,
alejandro perez <
>>> > >>>>>>>>> aeperezt(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Julita,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Keep in mind this is a FAD it is
dedicated to Fedora
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Contributors (or interested
parties) , to get together and
>>> > >>>>>>>>> produce some results, not a
promotional event, because of
>>> > >>>>>>>>> that it will be some sort of close
meeting, event do out
>>> > >>>>>>>>> side people are welcome cannot be a
massive event with
>>> > >>>>>>>>> talks.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Fecha*: Tue, 23 May 2017 15:07:56
-0500
>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Asunto*:
[Embajadores-fedora-latam] Re: FAD proposal
>>> > >>>>>>>>> improvement request
>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Para*: Latin American Fedora
Ambassadors <
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
embajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
<Latin%20American%20Fedora%20Ambassadors%20%
>>> 3cembajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org%3e>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Reply-to: Latin American Fedora
Ambassadors <
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
embajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> *De*: yrazes <yrazes(a)gmail.com
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
<yrazes%20%3cyrazes(a)gmail.com%3e>> Hello Brian and
>>> > >>>>>>>>> ambassadors!
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> I work in USIL, it is a private
university and because all
>>> > >>>>>>>>> the events I do, I have some
contacts.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> I have talk with the authorities at
USIL to get a coliseum,
>>> > >>>>>>>>> labs and auditorium.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
http://www.usil.edu.pe/sedes/universidad-san-ignacio-
>>> > >>>>>>>>> loyola-campus-la-molina
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> I need dates and I also arranging a
plan to follow since
>>> > >>>>>>>>> installation until Fedora
workshops.
>>> > >>>>>>>>> I am going to check prices around
for hotels and food.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Please give me at least three days
to do it :)
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Julita
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:47 AM,
Brian Exelbierd
>>> > >>>>>>>>> <bex(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 06:14 PM,
Eduard Lucena wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello Brian,
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Also there is a good discussion
about this in the Spanish
>>> > >>>>>>>>> version of this email. I think this
idea is close to happen.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cool. I'm. It suggesting a
specific place so anywhere
>>> > >>>>>>>>> appropriate and easy to fly to is
great.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> As a non-Spanish speaker I
don't follow the Spanish
>>> > >>>>>>>>> discussions :). This is also A-OK
:)
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> bex
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Br,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2017-05-22 12:12 GMT-04:00 Alex
Irmel Oviedo Solis <
>>> > >>>>>>>>> alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com>:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello Brian, in the last meeting I
requested someone to
>>> > >>>>>>>>> propose another place inside or
outside Peru to get a
>>> > >>>>>>>>> suitable venue (and assume the
logistic, auditorium, hotel,
>>> > >>>>>>>>> etc), but anybody propose any place
but I will to wait
>>> > >>>>>>>>> until tomorrow night.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> If you want to change the place, I
can talk with
>>> > >>>>>>>>> ambassadors from Lima (specially
with bernardoha) I think
>>> > >>>>>>>>> he can get a suitable place. The
costs will decrease in at
>>> > >>>>>>>>> least 60 dollars by person.
Regards.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> El lun., 22 de may. de 2017 a la(s)
09:59, Brian Exelbierd
>>> > >>>>>>>>> < bex(a)pobox.com> escribió:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 20, 2017, at 03:30 PM,
Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis
>>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Good morning, as some of you know,
I was working on a
>>> > >>>>>>>>> proposal to carry out an
organizational FAD in Cusco City,
>>> > >>>>>>>>> this proposal was reviewed by some
people as robyduck and
>>> > >>>>>>>>> bex then was presented to the
council giving a relative
>>> > >>>>>>>>> positive result, but the proposal
needs some improvements
>>> > >>>>>>>>> specially in the following terms:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> - Improvement of the agenda and to
establish the clear
>>> > >>>>>>>>> objectives.
>>> > >>>>>>>>> - Incorporate the ideas of FAMSco
regarding the
>>> > >>>>>>>>> organization of ambassadors and
related topics.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regarding the proposal itself, it
can be reviewed at the
>>> > >>>>>>>>> following link:
https://fedoraproject.org/
>>> wiki/FAD:Cusco2017
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> As can be read, the FAD proposes to
solve several problems
>>> > >>>>>>>>> like organizative, budgetary,
strategic and logistical so
>>> > >>>>>>>>> help us to be more efficient and
effective.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> About the participants, I
considered an ambassador for each
>>> > >>>>>>>>> country that is active and / or
influential in their
>>> > >>>>>>>>> country, so that she/he can
replicate (transmit) the
>>> > >>>>>>>>> agreements of the other
collaborators of their countries.
>>> > >>>>>>>>> If the ambassadors of some country
consider that they can
>>> > >>>>>>>>> be represented by another person we
can change their
>>> > >>>>>>>>> representative :-)
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> About the dates, at first I put for
the month of June but
>>> > >>>>>>>>> not bex hasn't free time to
attend the FAD and decided to
>>> > >>>>>>>>> change for the month of July (13,
14 and 15) because in
>>> > >>>>>>>>> those days bex has time.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> About the place, I consulted with
the ambassadors of Peru
>>> > >>>>>>>>> about the place and we chosen Cusco
as the venue, if there
>>> > >>>>>>>>> is any other proposal to change the
place (inside or
>>> > >>>>>>>>> outside of Peru) the interested
people must commit to get
>>> > >>>>>>>>> an suitable place to the meetings,
talks and accomodation.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> With regards to place, I believe
Itamar suggested in the
>>> > >>>>>>>>> FAmSCo meeting that choosing a
different city might result
>>> > >>>>>>>>> in lower costs (especially for
airfare). I think Lima was
>>> > >>>>>>>>> suggested. I agree we need to have
someone who is willing
>>> > >>>>>>>>> to own finding the place to meet in
whatever city we
>>> > >>>>>>>>> choose. I second the call for
someone to stand up and
>>> > >>>>>>>>> champion this if we can save the
money reasonably.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Overall, this email is well stated
and I hope there will be
>>> > >>>>>>>>> good conversation in LATAM about
this.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> regards,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> bex
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> * In summary, the FAD proposal can
be improved in all its
>>> > >>>>>>>>> aspects, therefore I request
support to improve it and to
>>> > >>>>>>>>> have it approved so that we can
improve and grow the
>>> > >>>>>>>>> community. *
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> PS: Sorry for this big email
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