On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 18:28:33 +0000 Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado echevemaster@gmail.com wrote:
Historically, t-shirts is a personal equipment and it's not sponsored in any way by Fedora, also t-shirts has been made by EMEA (example: Fedora 19 Schrodinger and Fedora 10 years t-shirts) in special occasions and sent worldwide by mail.
And how people was selected for receiving or not a t-shirt made a lot of friction.
I was browsing, and now EMEA has some clear rules for producing polos for ambassadors. But it seems unrealistic to do the same, as we have a lot of issues with custom and taxes.
My point is not to drop entirely this topic about t-shirts or polos. But to leave for later as it will need some rules and exploration on how we fulfill this.
Mean while, we can focus on thing that are straight forward, and we can produce them in January, best if we close up all payments before January 20th. We need to rush on this and discussing personal items will delay reaching a decision.
With respect to the producing the swag by region would be better choose a central place and from there deliver the swag.
I think that for large items it may be better to produce them closest to the destination. Like roll up banners, better do it decentralized. Shipping will be expensive, and certainly will raise a flag in custom, requiring to pay taxes.
For stickers, will be better to do it centralized. That someone that has a bank account and can deal with reimbursements take care of a large production. This not only about price, it is about quality. There are some quality that may be only available if you order above certain minimal quantity. Think also that the person that take care of this will also need to pay and be reimbursed for shipping to other cities. If you send a small package of stickers for a city, then most likely won't be an issue on customs.
So, I am not telling exactly what to do, but to think what would be better. If you split Brazil in regions, you can reduce shipping but it may be not good for scale production. Within Brazil there is no problem with customs. So, maybe it will make sense to produce stickers at one place.
Most likely will be the same for medias. Not sure what to think about other items like table clothes, that is something in the middle.
But also think, if we produce a large quantity, then we send that over a country border, and it is retained at customs... the recipient would have to do the transaction and pay taxes. So we need to make sure that there is somebody that has time do that, and that we can reimburse him or her. Otherwise it will be lost at custom or somebody will spent some money that we can not reimburse at the moment.
Not telling what to do, but more what we need to think about to decide on this topic.
El lun., 26 de dic. de 2016 a la(s) 13:04, Athos Ribeiro < athoscribeiro@gmail.com> escribió:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 10:36:39AM -0600, Neville A. Cross wrote:
Ha sido lanorma que no se hace materiales personales. Especificamente no se hacen camisas. Las camisas que se han hecho para los colaboradores solo han generado conflicto. Asi que yo no apostaria en que los polos de embajadores van a ejecutarse.
Deberiamos concentrarnos en cosas que si se van a ejecutar.
Do you believe we should remove the t-shirts from the production, then? I would not oppose to that at all, even though I do believe it would be nice to have ambassadors well presented on bigger events like DevConf or FISL :)
-- Athos Ribeiro
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