Correct Eduardo,
We need have a plan and ambassadors who go to the event has specific task, no only give talks, we need for people to reclute people but also reclute software.
For instance:
There is a software or library on Fedora that is used for Nuclear physics an Argentinian Physics ask to be added to Debian to the developer and he responded no I don't have time to do do it if you want to used on Debian it is free software do it. At the end of the day this Nuclear physics scientist started to use Fedora instead of Debian on Argentina and now is also asking for Fedora swags. Valentin mention this to me so I thing is the right way if we have software that is develop on Brasil, Argentina or any Latam country inside the distribution it will help get more users and get more developers on our side.
In a way Icaro project has help Fedora to get some users on Argentina because it is the only distribution who carries it.
So this experience is the proper example of what we need to do on event like fisl and latinoware where developers show their project.
But we need to come with a plan, who is going to be on the Fedora Both, from which hours, if some other people volunteer or an user offer us help take it, we need to be open and recibe people with open arms.
So it is not about who fill up a ticket to go to fisl or latinoware it is more about what will be the plan there and what we want to accomplish.
This is not only for fisl and latinoware there are pycons, rubycons on Argentina, Brasil and Uruguay so we need to start getting into those events with the same objective.
Many developers works on Ubuntu or Debian but there are not warranties that their software will end up on those distributions, but if we can help get their software in Fedora they will probably start using Fedora.
El mié, 29-10-2014 a las 01:16 -0430, Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado escribió:
the challenge is go to these events with a prepared agenda for the expected public. FISL is an event principally full of stands, what is my POV with respect to this? Doing public workshops at the stands and not only look forward see the people asking about stickers or installation disks. This did our friend Valentin in the FISL 2013, speak with the interested people (in this case, professors), so, what could be our expected target?. from me could be IT students; previously contacted trough with the existent organization data. We have to start to behave like if we sell something (something that not have price, and it is awesome, free software knowledge) . doing planning, goals and tracing of all of ours possible contributors.
I repeat take as example to Valentin, he always makes a poll of his expected public, we have to copy the good ideas of the others.
El 29 de octubre de 2014, 0:49, Daniel Bruno dbruno@fedoraproject.org escribió: IMHO, the metodology of the Ambassadors group, in the specific case of the Brazilian community, must be recycled. For many years practically the same approach has been applied to events where there is involvement of the Fedora Project. I believe that we must to learn with our own community from other regions seeing whta is working out there and bring it to our case in brazilian and latam community.
A way that I see that works well, is to present talks with good tech level in such way that Fedora is interesting for those who are looking for just information and excite those users that potentially can join us as contributor. And it doesn't work anymore with these talks like "The infra group do it.. the packager do this... the amabassador does it..", IMO it is boring, and a waste of the potential of what could be shown to the public. I quoted before the case of we learn with the guys from other regions, because recently I watched two talks that were interesting, one by Robert Mayr about the impact of Fedora.Next in the Fedora websites, and other by Denis Gilmore about Fedora.Next. These talks covers what I said about to show Fedora interesting for those that have potential to contribute and for those that just want to learn and adopt new techonologies. Best Regards, 2014-10-28 12:55 GMT-04:00 Alejandro Perez <aeperezt@hotmail.com>: Fisl y Latinoware son los eventos mas grandes en latinoamerica, en el cual participa Fedora, en el presupuesto anual de Fedora Latam los costos de estos dos eventos representan cerca de 60% del total, sin embargo por los reportes enviados al planet creo que estamos siendo poco eficientes en lograr objetivos claros de estos dos eventos. Hasta el momento en mis años como embajador jamas he escuchado de un nuevo embajador, empaquetador, traductor o miembro de Fedora actual que se uniera a la causa por que nos vio en estos dos eventos. Aunque es importante tener presencia de Fedora en estos eventos, creo que estamos haciendo algo mal. Por conversaciones con personas que han participado en FISL y Latinoware (jamas he asistido personalmente) creo que tenemos que cambiar un poco el enfoque. En Fisl y Latinoware participan muchos desarrolladores de aplicaciones de Software Libre desarrolladas en Brasil, algunas de las cuales no están en Fedora, por lo que seria importante que las personas que asisten a Latinoware y FISL no solo estén en el booth de Fedora pero también aprovechen la oportunidad para ver cuales de los software presentados en el evento que no se encuentre en Fedora podemos empaquetar e incluir en Fedora, esto nos ayuda de dos formas primero porque conocemos a un desarrollador que en futuro podría colaborar con Fedora, segundo porque al tener su software incluido en Fedora lo convertirá en un promotor de Fedora al indicarle a los usuarios que se encuentra en Fedora y que es fácil de instalar allí. Al final tendremos mas software de Latam en Fedora y mas usuarios que usan Fedora porque esa aplicación se encuentra en Fedora. No lo tomen a mal, ir a dar charlas y escuchar algunas no esta mal, pero tenemos que ser mas pro activos sobre lo que queremos lograr. Este tema lo converse con varios embajadores en FUDCON Managua y lo dejo como una propuesta a revisar en la lista y las reuniones de Latam. _______________________________________________ Embajadores-fedora-latam mailing list Embajadores-fedora-latam@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/embajadores-fedora-latam -- Daniel Bruno http://danielbruno.eti.br Mentor of Fedora Ambassadors on Latin America Fedora Latin America Infrastructure Team _______________________________________________ Embajadores-fedora-latam mailing list Embajadores-fedora-latam@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/embajadores-fedora-latam
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