Correct Eduardo,
We need have a plan and ambassadors who go to the event has specific
task, no only give talks, we need for people to reclute people but also
reclute software.
For instance:
There is a software or library on Fedora that is used for Nuclear
physics an Argentinian Physics ask to be added to Debian to the
developer and he responded no I don't have time to do do it if you want
to used on Debian it is free software do it. At the end of the day this
Nuclear physics scientist started to use Fedora instead of Debian on
Argentina and now is also asking for Fedora swags. Valentin mention this
to me so I thing is the right way if we have software that is develop on
Brasil, Argentina or any Latam country inside the distribution it will
help get more users and get more developers on our side.
In a way Icaro project has help Fedora to get some users on Argentina
because it is the only distribution who carries it.
So this experience is the proper example of what we need to do on event
like fisl and latinoware where developers show their project.
But we need to come with a plan, who is going to be on the Fedora Both,
from which hours, if some other people volunteer or an user offer us
help take it, we need to be open and recibe people with open arms.
So it is not about who fill up a ticket to go to fisl or latinoware it
is more about what will be the plan there and what we want to
accomplish.
This is not only for fisl and latinoware there are pycons, rubycons on
Argentina, Brasil and Uruguay so we need to start getting into those
events with the same objective.
Many developers works on Ubuntu or Debian but there are not warranties
that their software will end up on those distributions, but if we can
help get their software in Fedora they will probably start using
Fedora.
El mié, 29-10-2014 a las 01:16 -0430, Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado
escribió:
the challenge is go to these events with a prepared agenda for the
expected public. FISL is an event principally full of stands, what is
my POV with respect to this? Doing public workshops at the stands and
not only look forward see the people asking about stickers or
installation disks. This did our friend Valentin in the FISL 2013,
speak with the interested people (in this case, professors), so, what
could be our expected target?. from me could be IT students;
previously contacted trough with the existent organization data. We
have to start to behave like if we sell something (something that not
have price, and it is awesome, free software knowledge) . doing
planning, goals and tracing of all of ours possible contributors.
I repeat take as example to Valentin, he always makes a poll of his
expected public, we have to copy the good ideas of the others.
El 29 de octubre de 2014, 0:49, Daniel Bruno
<dbruno(a)fedoraproject.org> escribió:
IMHO, the metodology of the Ambassadors group, in the specific
case of the Brazilian community, must be recycled. For many
years practically the same approach has been applied to events
where there is involvement of the Fedora Project. I believe
that we must to learn with our own community from other
regions seeing whta is working out there and bring it to our
case in brazilian and latam community.
A way that I see that works well, is to present talks with
good tech level in such way that Fedora is interesting for
those who are looking for just information and excite those
users that potentially can join us as contributor. And it
doesn't work anymore with these talks like "The infra group do
it.. the packager do this... the amabassador does it..", IMO
it is boring, and a waste of the potential of what could be
shown to the public.
I quoted before the case of we learn with the guys from other
regions, because recently I watched two talks that were
interesting, one by Robert Mayr about the impact of
Fedora.Next in the Fedora websites, and other by Denis Gilmore
about Fedora.Next. These talks covers what I said about to
show Fedora interesting for those that have potential to
contribute and for those that just want to learn and adopt new
techonologies.
Best Regards,
2014-10-28 12:55 GMT-04:00 Alejandro Perez
<aeperezt(a)hotmail.com>:
Fisl y Latinoware son los eventos mas grandes en
latinoamerica, en el
cual participa Fedora, en el presupuesto anual de
Fedora Latam los
costos de estos dos eventos representan cerca de 60%
del total, sin
embargo por los reportes enviados al planet creo que
estamos siendo poco
eficientes en lograr objetivos claros de estos dos
eventos.
Hasta el momento en mis años como embajador jamas he
escuchado de un
nuevo embajador, empaquetador, traductor o miembro de
Fedora actual que
se uniera a la causa por que nos vio en estos dos
eventos. Aunque es
importante tener presencia de Fedora en estos eventos,
creo que estamos
haciendo algo mal.
Por conversaciones con personas que han participado en
FISL y Latinoware
(jamas he asistido personalmente) creo que tenemos que
cambiar un poco
el enfoque.
En Fisl y Latinoware participan muchos desarrolladores
de aplicaciones
de Software Libre desarrolladas en Brasil, algunas de
las cuales no
están en Fedora, por lo que seria importante que las
personas que
asisten a Latinoware y FISL no solo estén en el booth
de Fedora pero
también aprovechen la oportunidad para ver cuales de
los software
presentados en el evento que no se encuentre en Fedora
podemos
empaquetar e incluir en Fedora, esto nos ayuda de dos
formas
primero porque conocemos a un desarrollador que en
futuro podría
colaborar con Fedora, segundo porque al tener su
software incluido en
Fedora lo convertirá en un promotor de Fedora al
indicarle a los
usuarios que se encuentra en Fedora y que es fácil de
instalar allí. Al
final tendremos mas software de Latam en Fedora y mas
usuarios que usan
Fedora porque esa aplicación se encuentra en Fedora.
No lo tomen a mal, ir a dar charlas y escuchar algunas
no esta mal, pero
tenemos que ser mas pro activos sobre lo que queremos
lograr.
Este tema lo converse con varios embajadores en FUDCON
Managua y lo dejo
como una propuesta a revisar en la lista y las
reuniones de Latam.
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