Flisol Tickets

[Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado]

Given the Flisol is coming, and there are many open tickets from different
countries looking for a sponsoring or a swag request, to save time, please
vote in the next tickets:

https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/387
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/388
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/389
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/390
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/391
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/392
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/393
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/394
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/395

Cheers.-

[Athos Ribeiro]

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 06:59:10PM +0000, Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado wrote:
>  Given the Flisol is coming, and there are many open tickets from
> different
>  countries looking for a sponsoring or a swag request, to save time, please
>  vote in the next tickets:
>  
>  https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/387
>  https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/388
>  https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/389
>  https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/390
>  https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/391
>  https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/392
>  https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/393
>  https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/394
>  https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/395 
Aren't we suppose to vote all of them in the meeting according to our
own rules? I am a bit confused with it all, since I see a lot of people
voting on tickets when our protocol tells us to vote in the meetings...
I already proposed writing a draft changing those rules so we can
actually vote in pagure issues (and am writing a draft for that atm),
but things feel messy atm...

-- 
Athos Ribeiro

http://www.ime.usp.br/~athoscr

[Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado]

Our protocol is not to vote in the meetings, it's a custom, as I said in
the last meeting, I think... If we want to set something in the community
we have to write it and share with our fellows, I feel that nine tickets
will not be voted tomorrow, given we have only an hour to do it.

Obviously waiting for your draft will be a great resource to set new rules
in a process that as we have discussed a lot, it's a bit outdated. So don't
feel messy, just do \ that you said you will do.


El vie., 31 de mar. de 2017 a la(s) 14:03, Athos Ribeiro <
athoscribeiro(a)gmail.com&gt; escribió:

>  On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 06:59:10PM +0000, Eduardo Javier Echeverria
>  Alvarado wrote:
>  > Given the Flisol is coming, and there are many open tickets from
>  different
>  > countries looking for a sponsoring or a swag request, to save time,
>  please
>  > vote in the next tickets:
>  >
>  > https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/387
>  > https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/388
>  > https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/389
>  > https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/390
>  > https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/391
>  > https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/392
>  > https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/393
>  > https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/394
>  > https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/395
>
>  Aren't we suppose to vote all of them in the meeting according to our
>  own rules? I am a bit confused with it all, since I see a lot of people
>  voting on tickets when our protocol tells us to vote in the meetings...
>  I already proposed writing a draft changing those rules so we can
>  actually vote in pagure issues (and am writing a draft for that atm),
>  but things feel messy atm...
>
>  --
>  Athos Ribeiro
>
>  http://www.ime.usp.br/~athoscr
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[Athos Ribeiro]

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 07:10:37PM +0000, Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado wrote:
>  Our protocol is not to vote in the meetings, it's a custom, as I
> said in
>  the last meeting, I think... If we want to set something in the community
>  we have to write it and share with our fellows, I feel that nine tickets
>  will not be voted tomorrow, given we have only an hour to do it. 
As I undertood, it is a protocol in LATAM
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Reimbursement

I do agree with you: We do not have time to vote all of those, but we
are still not following our own rules and I was just pointing it out.

Note that there is another (weird?) guide in the same page saying that
the tresurer or any famsco member in LATAM can approve tickets <= $499.
In this case, it would make more sense to get Itamar, Fred (is he still
in famsco?) or Neville to approve all those tickets and we would be
sticking to our own guidelines.

>  
>  Obviously waiting for your draft will be a great resource to set new rules
>  in a process that as we have discussed a lot, it's a bit outdated. So don't
>  feel messy, just do \ that you said you will do. 
Yes, any help is wanted here. Will provide a 1st draft tonight.

Note that this just emphasizes the need to review our processes.

-- 
Athos Ribeiro

http://www.ime.usp.br/~athoscr

[William Moreno]

William Moreno Reyes
http://about.me/williamjmorenor

2017-03-31 13:27 GMT-06:00 Athos Ribeiro <athoscribeiro(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 07:10:37PM +0000, Eduardo Javier Echeverria
>  Alvarado wrote:
>  > Our protocol is not to vote in the meetings, it's a custom, as I said in
>  > the last meeting, I think... If we want to set something in the community
>  > we have to write it and share with our fellows, I feel that nine tickets
>  > will not be voted tomorrow, given we have only an hour to do it.
>
>  As I undertood, it is a protocol in LATAM
>  See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Reimbursement
>
>  I do agree with you: We do not have time to vote all of those, but we
>  are still not following our own rules and I was just pointing it out.
>
>  Note that there is another (weird?) guide in the same page saying that
>  the tresurer or any famsco member in LATAM can approve tickets <= $499.
>  In this case, it would make more sense to get Itamar, Fred (is he still
>  in famsco?) or Neville to approve all those tickets and we would be
>  sticking to our own guidelines.
>
>  >
>  > Obviously waiting for your draft will be a great resource to set new
>  rules
>  > in a process that as we have discussed a lot, it's a bit outdated. So
>  don't
>  > feel messy, just do \ that you said you will do.
>
>  Yes, any help is wanted here. Will provide a 1st draft tonight.
>
>  Note that this just emphasizes the need to review our processes.
>
>
>  
I do agree than we need to formalize the procedures with the Latam budget,
the rule than we respect a lot is: we need 3 votes from ambassadors of
different countries, those ambassadors must not participe in the event that
is asking for resources from the budget.

[Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado]

   1. LATAM Ambassadors meetings are held every Saturday, please
   participate for the next meeting and get your request approved.

The rules don't say; the ambassadors will vote in the meeting.

If you ask me, I will respect all the steps minus that. Voting for a ticket
or a meeting is a vote and helps to the ambassadors and contributors that
could not attend the meeting, vote for it with context

We need to meet for discussing these new rules. Also, you're free of not
vote on the ticket and vote in the meeting.

Yes the treasurer can approve tickets, but it's always better to vote for
the ticket itself

El vie., 31 de mar. de 2017 a la(s) 14:39, William Moreno <
williamjmorenor(a)gmail.com&gt; escribió:

>  William Moreno Reyes
>  http://about.me/williamjmorenor
>
>  2017-03-31 13:27 GMT-06:00 Athos Ribeiro <athoscribeiro(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>
>  On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 07:10:37PM +0000, Eduardo Javier Echeverria
>  Alvarado wrote:
>  > Our protocol is not to vote in the meetings, it's a custom, as I said in
>  > the last meeting, I think... If we want to set something in the community
>  > we have to write it and share with our fellows, I feel that nine tickets
>  > will not be voted tomorrow, given we have only an hour to do it.
>
>  As I undertood, it is a protocol in LATAM
>  See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Reimbursement
>
>  I do agree with you: We do not have time to vote all of those, but we
>  are still not following our own rules and I was just pointing it out.
>
>  Note that there is another (weird?) guide in the same page saying that
>  the tresurer or any famsco member in LATAM can approve tickets <= $499.
>  In this case, it would make more sense to get Itamar, Fred (is he still
>  in famsco?) or Neville to approve all those tickets and we would be
>  sticking to our own guidelines.
>
>  >
>  > Obviously waiting for your draft will be a great resource to set new
>  rules
>  > in a process that as we have discussed a lot, it's a bit outdated. So
>  don't
>  > feel messy, just do \ that you said you will do.
>
>  Yes, any help is wanted here. Will provide a 1st draft tonight.
>
>  Note that this just emphasizes the need to review our processes.
>
>
>
>  I do agree than we need to formalize the procedures with the Latam budget,
>  the rule than we respect a lot is: we need 3 votes from ambassadors of
>  different countries, those ambassadors must not participe in the event that
>  is asking for resources from the budget.
>
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[Athos Ribeiro]

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 08:23:24PM +0000, Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado wrote:
>     1. LATAM Ambassadors meetings are held every Saturday, please
>     participate for the next meeting and get your request approved.
>  
>  The rules don't say; the ambassadors will vote in the meeting.
>   
I am talking about the part that says:

"$500-1999 USD = The request requires approval from the appropriate
regional community (APAC, EMEA, LATAM, or NA) At least five (5)
individual Fedora Ambassadors from (3) different countries votes
required at LATAM FAm __Weekly meeting__"

Note that for values < $500, we have:

"Though voting is not required for funding requests below 500 USD, it's
the way it's usually done in LATAM what promotes community participation
by listening to the opinion of other contributors."

I just found out that all the other regions approve their tickets in
meetings as well...

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Reimbursement
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAMNA_Reimbursement_Guidelines

FAMNA does not say it explicitly in the page above but someone just
confirmed that in IRC.

Itamar just suggested that for a specific amount, we could have the
ticket approved in the pagure issue itself. What do you think?

-- 
Athos Ribeiro

http://www.ime.usp.br/~athoscr

[Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado]

Are you asking Itamar or to all the list?

El vie., 31 de mar. de 2017 a la(s) 15:35, Athos Ribeiro <
athoscribeiro(a)gmail.com&gt; escribió:

>  On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 08:23:24PM +0000, Eduardo Javier Echeverria
>  Alvarado wrote:
>  >    1. LATAM Ambassadors meetings are held every Saturday, please
>  >    participate for the next meeting and get your request approved.
>  >
>  > The rules don't say; the ambassadors will vote in the meeting.
>  >
>
>  I am talking about the part that says:
>
>  "$500-1999 USD = The request requires approval from the appropriate
>  regional community (APAC, EMEA, LATAM, or NA) At least five (5)
>  individual Fedora Ambassadors from (3) different countries votes
>  required at LATAM FAm __Weekly meeting__"
>
>  Note that for values < $500, we have:
>
>  "Though voting is not required for funding requests below 500 USD, it's
>  the way it's usually done in LATAM what promotes community participation
>  by listening to the opinion of other contributors."
>
>  I just found out that all the other regions approve their tickets in
>  meetings as well...
>
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Reimbursement
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAMNA_Reimbursement_Guidelines
>
>  FAMNA does not say it explicitly in the page above but someone just
>  confirmed that in IRC.
>
>  Itamar just suggested that for a specific amount, we could have the
>  ticket approved in the pagure issue itself. What do you think?
>
>  --
>  Athos Ribeiro
>
>  http://www.ime.usp.br/~athoscr
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