epel-devel August 2007

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Log from todays (200700808) EPEL SIG Meeting
by Thorsten Leemhuis 08 Aug '07

08 Aug '07

00:00:16 < knurd> | Meeting ping dgilmore, Jeff_S, knurd, mmcgrath, nirik, stahnma, quaid and everyone interested in EPEL -- EPEL meeting in #fedora-meeting now! 00:00:16 --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL Sig meeting -- Meeting rules at http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Schedule/MeetingGuidelines -- Init process 00:00:22 < mmcgrath> | pong 00:01:00 * | dgilmore is here 00:01:01 < knurd> | quaid is traveling 00:01:05 --> | frozty_sa (frozt01100101) has joined #fedora-meeting 00:01:38 < knurd> | hmmm 00:01:40 < knurd> | that's not much 00:01:50 < knurd> | we maybe should do more stuff on the list 00:01:56 < knurd> | and less in the meeting 00:02:08 < mmcgrath> | or move meetings to every other week? 00:02:22 < knurd> | seems we don't get all hte importatn or interested people into the meeting 00:02:44 < knurd> | so maybe doing them only every two week and instead finish some stuff on the list might be easier for everyone 00:02:49 < knurd> | just a thought 00:02:52 < knurd> | mmcgrath, yeah 00:03:21 * | dgilmore like fortnightly meetings 00:03:57 --> | silug (S. Ill. Linux UG - http://www.silug.org/) has joined #fedora-meeting 00:04:11 < knurd> | and mailing lists don't have timezone-problems ;-) 00:04:25 < knurd> | I'll think about it some more and write to the list about it 00:04:25 < mmcgrath> | Thats true 00:04:53 < knurd> | anyway, let's do a quick meeting even with three people from the steering committee 00:05:01 --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL Meeting|new push scripts for pushing to testing, adjust mock configs to use testing -- dgilmore 00:05:08 < knurd> | dgilmore, and progress? 00:06:08 < dgilmore> | knurd: not had a chance yet. i need pinging on it one night 00:06:09 --> | alexxed (purple) has joined #fedora-meeting 00:06:24 < dgilmore> | right now im concentrating on enabling secondary archs 00:06:32 < knurd> | dgilmore, I#d offer to help, but I don#t really know how things are working together 00:06:41 --> | sereinity_ (Sereinity) has joined #fedora-meeting 00:06:55 < dgilmore> | knurd: it should take about 30 mins or so work. 00:06:57 < knurd> | but I could update the builders if that is any help (and if I have access to the config files) 00:07:06 < dgilmore> | mostly i need reminding when i can do the work 00:07:08 <-- | sereinity has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:07:27 < dgilmore> | i cant do it during the day here 00:07:28 < knurd> | dgilmore, shall I ping you one every two days? 00:07:42 --- | sereinity_ is now known as sereinity 00:07:45 < knurd> | (no, I don#t take that serious) 00:07:52 < dgilmore> | knurd: if you can ping me first thing in the morning there would help 00:08:01 < knurd> | dgilmore, k, I'll try 00:08:03 < mmcgrath> | :) 00:08:07 < knurd> | dgilmore, thx for your help 00:08:38 < knurd> | mmcgrath, dgilmore, do we want to discuss "yum in EPEL4" or "branch for EPEL if Fedora maintainer does not react"? 00:09:07 < knurd> | or anything else? 00:09:21 --> | XulChris (Christopher Stone) has joined #fedora-meeting 00:09:41 < dgilmore> | knurd: we agreed on the Branch for EPEL issue last week 00:10:02 < knurd> | ohh, we did? 00:10:08 < dgilmore> | yum i think we should put it in make sure its less than CentOS version and not ship a yum.conf file 00:10:09 < knurd> | I thought the plan was to continue on the list 00:10:24 < knurd> | dgilmore and I raised some concerns 00:10:27 < dgilmore> | knurd: no we agreed to what i posted and what is in the wiki 00:10:36 < dgilmore> | with a revisit if we need to 00:10:44 < mmcgrath> | I think that was a miscommunication between the meeting and the list, I was under the impression it was settled as well. 00:10:47 < dgilmore> | knurd: i missed your concerns 00:11:02 < knurd> | dgilmore, send it to the list two days ago 00:11:24 < knurd> | dgilmore, well, take a look at it and tell me what you think 00:11:29 < knurd> | it's not that important 00:11:46 < knurd> | and can wait a bit more 00:11:55 < knurd> | so, shall we close the meeting for today? 00:12:15 < dgilmore> | knurd: sorry i wasnt clear the Fedora maintainer becomes comainter in EPEL 00:12:28 < dgilmore> | so the EPEL maintainer remains primary maintainer for EPEL 00:12:33 < knurd> | yeah, maybe I just got something wrong 00:12:41 < knurd> | ahh, okay; 00:13:05 < knurd> | was that just me beeing stupid or could/should the wording be improved? 00:13:12 < knurd> | if the latter: just do it 00:13:55 < dgilmore> | I assumed by Fedora Maintainer becomes Comaintainer that it was clear. 00:13:58 < knurd> | (no need to approve each and every detail in a meeting) 00:14:03 < dgilmore> | perhaps thats a language thing 00:14:07 < knurd> | dgilmore, I'll take another look 00:14:10 < knurd> | dgilmore, yeah, likely 00:14:13 < knurd> | anyway 00:14:18 * | knurd will close the meeting in 60 00:14:48 < knurd> | dgilmore, mmcgrath, I assume closing is fine for you? 00:14:51 * | knurd will close the meeting in 30 00:14:56 < dgilmore> | knurd: thats fine 00:15:02 < mmcgrath> | knurd: yeah, there's just not much going on that have decisions to be made I guess :) 00:15:10 < knurd> | yeah 00:15:13 * | knurd will close the meeting in 10 00:15:37 * | knurd will close the meeting in n 00:15:37 --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL Meeting -- Free discussion around EPEL 00:15:37 < knurd> | -- MARK -- Meeting end 00:15:41 --> | Jeff_S (Jeff) has joined #fedora-meeting 00:15:50 < mmcgrath> | buhahahah 00:15:58 < mmcgrath> | knurd: thanks for hosting the meeting 00:15:58 --- | knurd has changed the topic to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule 00:16:06 < knurd> | dgilmore, mmcgrath thx 00:16:07 < mmcgrath> | Jeff_S: this amused me - 00:16:08 < Jeff_S> | grr 00:16:12 < mmcgrath> | 11:16 < knurd> -- MARK -- Meeting end 00:16:12 < mmcgrath> | 11:16 -!- Jeff_S has joined #fedora-meeting 00:16:13 < knurd> | mmcgrath, that was a quick one 00:16:17 --> | JSchmitt (Jochen Schmitt) has joined #fedora-meeting 00:16:19 < knurd> | hehe 00:16:23 < Jeff_S> | sorry guys, it's been a busy morning :( 00:16:25 < mmcgrath> | It was literally a second or two difference :) 00:16:27 < mmcgrath> | Jeff_S: no worries 00:16:36 < knurd> | Jeff_S, np 00:16:45 < knurd> | Jeff_S, we just discussed a bit to do more on the list 00:16:54 < Jeff_S> | ok 00:17:09 * | Jeff_S has very good or very bad timing depending on how you look at it ;) 00:17:09 < knurd> | dgilmore, mentioned "yum i think we should put it in make sure its less than CentOS version and not ship a yum.conf file" 00:17:27 < knurd> | Jeff_S, would that " not ship a yum.conf file" work? 00:18:15 < Jeff_S> | hmmm... maybe? :) I think that perhaps shipping it with an empty file with only a comment regarding "this is from EPEL, it won't work with RHEL unless you make some changes, blah blah" 00:18:31 < Jeff_S> | but we can discuss on list since I missed the meeting... 00:18:37 < knurd> | Jeff_S, could you just try so we know? 00:18:53 < Jeff_S> | well, I don't have any RHEL boxes, but I could try on centos 00:19:11 < knurd> | Jeff_S, should be good enough I'd say 00:19:13 < Jeff_S> | anyone have a RHEL box they would let me screw up? 00:19:35 * | knurd has no RHEL4 boxes 00:20:08 < Jeff_S> | no problem, I'll test it out on centos and see what happens

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Plan for todays (20070808) EPEL SIG meeting
by Thorsten Leemhuis 08 Aug '07

08 Aug '07

(late as well; sorry) Hi all, find below the list of topics that are planed to come up in the next EPEL SIG meeting which is scheduled for today, Wednesday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.org. /topic EPEL Meeting|EPEL announcement happened -- are we satisfied with how everything worked out? /topic EPEL Meeting|branch for EPEL if Fedora maintainer does not react -- dgilmore /topic EPEL Meeting|new push scripts for pushing to testing, adjust mock configs to use testing -- dgilmore /topic EPEL Meeting|yum for EPEL4 -- Jeff_S /topic EPEL Meeting|new meeting time? -- all (see also http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/NewMeetingTime ) You want something to be discussed? Send a note to the list in reply to this mail and I'll add it to the schedule (I can't promise we will get to it tomorrow, but we'll most likely will if we don't run out of time). You can also propose topics at the end of the meeting itself. If your name/nick is on above list please give a update. That way all the interested parties know what up ahead of the meeting; that will avoid long delays and "status update monologues in the meeting. Thanks! CU knurd

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EPEL report week 31 2007
by Thorsten Leemhuis 08 Aug '07

08 Aug '07

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Reports/Week31 (sorry, a bit late this time; was quite busy at work and a family visit) = Weekly EPEL Summary = Week 31/2007 == Most important happenings == * Noting major == EPEL SIG Meeting == === Attending === >From the Steering Committee: * dgilmore (DennisGilmore) * nirik (KevinFenzi) (vacation) * mmcgrath (MikeMcGrath) * quaid (KarstenWade) Missing from the Steering Committee: * Jeff_S (Jeff Sheltren) * knurd (ThorstenLeemhuis) * stahnma (MichaelStahnke) Others that participated the meeting: warren, rsc === Summary === * what did everyone think of how things have gone since the announcement? * we probably should have a link on the front page of fp.o and fp.o/wiki; or perhaps a epel.fedoraproject.org cname? * some discussions about collecting and publishing statistics * branch for EPEL if Fedora maintainer does not react * more discussions on the list * new push scripts for pushing to testing, adjust mock configs to use * dgilmore will take care of it * security will need manual handling; nirik is willing to help * EPEL announcement happened -- what next? * nirik> | more packages, more maintainers, more users. ;) * nirik> | if we could move to koji at some point and bodhi that would be good... dgilmore> | needs to be done but requires coders * dgilmore> | does anyone have ideas on how to get more packages in EPEL? nirik> | I have some more I am going to do, but haven't had time... hopefully soon I will get munin in and possibly will look at Xfce (matching the centos extra versions so we don't conflict if possible) === Full Log === https://www.redhat.com/archives/epel-devel-list/2007-August/msg00014.html == Stats == === General === Number of EPEL Contributors 6 We welcome 6 new contributors: chris_AT_chrisgrau.com james.antill_AT_redhat.com jhrozek_AT_redhat.com mccann0011_AT_hotmail.com smilner_AT_redhat.com tmraz_AT_redhat.com === EPEL 5 === Number of source packages: 510 Number of binary packages: 938 There are 26 new Packages: * bacula | Cross platform network backup for Linux, Unix, Mac and Windows * cairomm | Cairomm is the C++ API for the cairo graphics library * cfitsio | Library for manipulating FITS data files * fping | Scriptable, parallelized ping-like utility * freetds | Implementation of the TDS (Tabular DataStream) protocol * gtkmm24 | C++ interface for GTK2 (a GUI library for X) * irssi | Modular text mode IRC client with Perl scripting * iverilog | Icarus Verilog is a verilog compiler and simulator * nail | Enhanced implementation of the mailx command * net6 | A TCP protocol abstraction for library C++ * obby | A library which provides synced document buffers * octave | A high-level language for numerical computations * perl-AnyData | Easy access to data in many formats * perl-Apache-LogRegex | Parse a line from an Apache logfile into a hash * perl-Cache-Mmap | Shared data cache using memory mapped files * perl-Class-Accessor | Automated accessor generation * perl-Class-Data-Inheritable | Inheritable, overridable class data * perl-Clone | Recursively copy perl datatypes * perl-CPAN-DistnameInfo | CPAN::DistnameInfo Perl module * perl-MIME-Types | MIME types module for Perl * perl-Module-CoreList | Perl core modules indexed by perl versions * perl-Test-Tester | Ease testing test modules built with Test::Builder * perl-UNIVERSAL-require | Require() modules from a variable * perl-XML-XPath | XPath parser and evaluator for Perl * timidity++ | A software wavetable MIDI synthesizer. * wxGTK | GTK2 port of the wxWidgets GUI library === EPEL 4 === Number of source packages: 313 Number of binary packages: 621 There are 18 new Packages: * cfitsio | Library for manipulating FITS data files * fping | Scriptable, parallelized ping-like utility * freetds | Implementation of the TDS (Tabular DataStream) protocol * irssi | Modular text mode IRC client with Perl scripting * iverilog | Icarus Verilog is a verilog compiler and simulator * nail | Enhanced implementation of the mailx command * perl-AnyData | Easy access to data in many formats * perl-Apache-LogRegex | Parse a line from an Apache logfile into a hash * perl-Cache-Mmap | Shared data cache using memory mapped files * perl-Class-Accessor | Automated accessor generation * perl-Class-Data-Inheritable | Inheritable, overridable class data * perl-Clone | Recursively copy perl datatypes * perl-CPAN-DistnameInfo | CPAN::DistnameInfo Perl module * perl-Test-Tester | Ease testing test modules built with Test::Builder * perl-UNIVERSAL-require | Require() modules from a variable * perl-XML-XPath | XPath parser and evaluator for Perl * svnmailer | Tool to post subversion repository commit information * timidity++ | A software wavetable MIDI synthesizer. ---- ["CategoryEPELReports"]

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packages that conflict with centos?
by Patrice Dumas 08 Aug '07

08 Aug '07

Hello, There isn't many of them, but yum and related packages are in Centos and not in RHEL-4 (unless I am wrong). Should they be packaged in EPEL or not? And in the general, what to do in such cases? -- Pat

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relations with other repos in practice
by Patrice Dumas 07 Aug '07

07 Aug '07

Hello, I am about to import most of my packages in EPEL. Some are in other repos (dag, dries). For the packages I have looked at (acpitool, gnochm), there is no specific need for coordination (no different name, split...). I can contact the people maintaining the packages in other repos, but do youhave an idea on what should be coordinated? One thing I see is the release. It seems to me that the repos should play nice and avoid updating over other repo packages. So maybe we could have rules like avoid upgrading dag repo by making sure that the release in epel is lower? Any idea about this issue, and any idea about other area where coordination is needed? What is the status of the agreement betwen repos? -- Pat

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el-5 builds failing?
by Tom Callaway 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

http://buildsys.fedoraproject.org/logs/fedora-5-epel/35485-xsupplicant-1.2.… Are the EL-5 builders ok? I'm getting the above failure when I try to build. EL-4 works fine. ~spot

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add to wish list: ucarp
by Florin Andrei 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

Can't edit the Wiki. Please add ucarp to the wish list. # rpm -qi ucarp Name : ucarp Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.2 Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 7.fc7 Build Date: Mon 05 Feb 2007 05:10:02 AM PST Install Date: Thu 02 Aug 2007 06:51:01 PM PDT Build Host: hammer2.fedora.redhat.com Group : System Environment/Daemons Source RPM: ucarp-1.2-7.fc7.src.rpm Size : 67359 License: BSD Signature : DSA/SHA1, Mon 21 May 2007 11:18:05 AM PDT, Key ID b44269d04f2a6fd2 Packager : Fedora Project <http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla> URL : http://www.ucarp.org/ Summary : Common Address Redundancy Protocol (CARP) for Unix Description : UCARP allows a couple of hosts to share common virtual IP addresses in order to provide automatic failover. It is a portable userland implementation of the secure and patent-free Common Address Redundancy Protocol (CARP, OpenBSD's alternative to the patents-bloated VRRP). Strong points of the CARP protocol are: very low overhead, cryptographically signed messages, interoperability between different operating systems and no need for any dedicated extra network link between redundant hosts. Thanks, -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/

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RHN software channels & EPEL
by Andrey KLYACHKIN 03 Aug '07

03 Aug '07

Hallo all, how EPEL will deal with so called software channels in RHN? E.g., RHEL4 has channel Red Hat Web Application Stack and it contains httpd-2.0.55 (which replaces standard httpd-2.0.52 from RHEL4) and mysql-connector-odbc-3.51.12 (there is no such package in the standard RHEL4 distribution). Will EPEL packages be built without replacing packages only from standard distribution or also from additional software channels and Red Hat products (such as RHCS, GFS, ...)? -- Sincerely yours, Andrey Klyachkin UNIX Systems Administrator, RaiffeisenBank Austria, Moscow This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately either by telephone or by e-mail and delete this message and any attachment from your system. Correspondence via e-mail is for information purposes only. ZAO Raiffeisenbank Austria neither makes nor accepts legally binding statements by e-mail unless otherwise agreed.

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yum update problem on CentOS 5
by Ron Yorston 03 Aug '07

03 Aug '07

Since I added the EPEL repository to my CentOS 4.5 system I've been having trouble with 'yum update'. It reports: --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: perl-libxml-enno >= 1.02 for package: foomatic --> Processing Dependency: perl(XML::RegExp) for package: perl-XML-DOM --> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package perl-XML-RegExp.noarch 0:0.03-2.el4 set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: perl-libxml-enno >= 1.02 for package: foomatic --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: perl-libxml-enno >= 1.02 is needed by package foomatic I can make it work either by disabling the EPEL repo (yum --disablerepo=epel update) or by specifying explicitly what needs to be updated (yum update tetex). But I shouldn't have to. Apparently perl-XML-DOM (from EPEL) obsoletes perl-libxml-enno <= 1.02, but CentOS has perl-libxml-enno-1.02-31 which is required by foomatic. Result misery. Ron

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el-4 confusion, misstatement on Wiki?
by Karsten Wade 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

Is this inaccurate/old? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/GuidelinesAndPolicies#head-8d21749b79a31… If so, what do we want to say instead? - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

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Plan for tomorrows (20070801) EPEL SIG meeting
by Thorsten Leemhuis 01 Aug '07

01 Aug '07

Hi all, find below the list of topics that are planed to come up in the next EPEL SIG meeting which is scheduled for tomorrow, Wednesday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.org. EPEL announcement happened -- are we satisfied with how everything worked out? branch for EPEL if Fedora maintainer does not react -- dgilmore new push scripts for pushing to testing, adjust mock configs to use testing -- dgilmore EPEL announcement happened -- what next? You want something to be discussed? Send a note to the list in reply to this mail and I'll add it to the schedule (I can't promise we will get to it tomorrow, but we'll most likely will if we don't run out of time). You can also propose topics at the end of the meeting itself. If your name/nick is on above list please give a update. That way all the interested parties know what up ahead of the meeting; that will avoid long delays and "status update monologues in the meeting. Thanks! CU knurd

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Log from EPEL Meeting (20070801)
by Dennis Gilmore 01 Aug '07

01 Aug '07

10:01 * nirik looks around for the EPEL meeting. 10:02 * dgilmore is here 10:02 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: Ping 10:02 < mmcgrath> pong 10:03 < _blah_> dgilmore: i'd say upload what you've got to the wiki, and if people want to revise further we can. 10:04 -!- rayvd [i=rayvd(a)arthur.bludgeon.org] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:05 < dgilmore> done 10:05 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: meeting 10:05 < dgilmore> who else are we missing? 10:05 * mmcgrath is sort of here (also working on some infrastructure issues) 10:05 < mmcgrath> quaid: ping? 10:05 < mmcgrath> Jeff_S? 10:06 -!- notting [i=notting@redhat/notting] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:06 -!- Fabi [n=festifn@moinmoin/coreteam/florian] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:06 < dgilmore> Well what did everyone think of how things have gone since the announcement? 10:06 < notting> what sort of uptake do we have? do we have stats? 10:06 < mmcgrath> pretty good actually. 10:07 < warren> Is EPEL's homepage easy to find? 10:07 -!- nirik changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: EPEL Meeting|EPEL announcement happened -- are we satisfied with how everything worked out? 10:07 -!- giallu [n=giallu(a)81-174-26-126.static.ngi.it] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:07 * f13 peeks in 10:07 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: I saw a couple of articles done about epel 10:07 * _blah_ pushes f13 back to work on f8test1 10:07 < nirik> yeah, stats on repo usage would be nice... not sure how to gather those tho...like fedora I suppose? 10:08 * quaid is here, had to do some stuff that ran over 10:08 < dgilmore> warren: we probably should have a link on the front page of fp.o and fp.o/wiki 10:08 < mmcgrath> http://www.linux.com/feature/118304 10:08 < nirik> or perhaps a epel.fedoraproject.org cname? 10:08 < warren> redirect at least 10:08 < warren> too bad epel.org is taken 10:09 < dgilmore> nirik: that also 10:09 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: Red Hat's new Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux (EPEL) repository might be an excellent place to go fishing. 10:09 < dgilmore> i dont much like that 10:10 < rsc> is there a chance for epel.redhat.com? 10:10 < dgilmore> its Fedora's not Red Hat's 10:10 < warren> rsc, better to brand it with Fedora 10:10 < dgilmore> rsc: i dont want to go down that route 10:10 < rsc> dgilmore, warren: Accepted. 10:12 < nirik> who updates http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics ? mspevack ? perhaps we could add a epel section there and add the same stats for it? 10:12 < nirik> or do we collect the same data? 10:12 < warren> EPEL users are technically different from Fedora 10:12 < mmcgrath> nirik: we could collect that data, do we want epel in general or both epel-5 and epel-4? 10:12 < warren> maybe we could add them both together 10:13 < nirik> it might be nice to see both epel4 and epel5... but I dont know how hard it is to generate those stats... 10:13 < mmcgrath> nirik: those numbers actually come from - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&rra_id=all&loca… 10:13 < nirik> ah, from smolt? 10:13 < mmcgrath> nirik: its not hard but I think I'm the only one who understands it. 10:13 < mmcgrath> well, some from smolt, some from grabbing ip's from the logs. 10:14 < nirik> yeah, we don't have smolt data, but uniq ips would be nice to know... better than nothing... 10:14 < dgilmore> anyone have anything else to add? 10:15 < nirik> (although, I suppose smolt could be built for epel4/epel5 barring missing dependencies, etc) 10:15 < mmcgrath> nirik: actually its already in epel5 :) 10:15 < dgilmore> nirik: its in epel5 10:15 < nirik> cool. I should install it and run it on my 5 machines. ;) 10:15 < mmcgrath> nirik: you should :) 10:16 < nirik> might be worth a mailing list post/blog mentioning that to let people know its out there for epel5. 10:16 -!- daMaestro [n=jon@fedora/damaestro] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:16 < nirik> anyhow, nothing else on this topic for me. 10:16 < mmcgrath> <nod> 10:16 < mmcgrath> nothing else here. I think its gone well. 10:16 -!- alexxed [n=alex(a)dyn-89.136.44.20.tm.upcnet.ro] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:16 -!- k0k [n=k0k@fedora/k0k] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:16 < _blah_> mmcgrath: are all dependencies resolved now that things have been moved to testing? 10:16 * nirik sees 15 centos5 and 10 rhel5 entries in smolt. 10:17 -!- dgilmore changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: EPEL Meeting| branch for EPEL if Fedora maintainer does not react -- dgilmore 10:17 < mmcgrath> _blah_: I think some are left (though its not many, last check it was 3 and the owners were notified). 10:17 < _blah_> dgilmore: i like the version you mailed and put into the wiki. 10:17 < mmcgrath> I think it was 2 in rhel4 and 1 in rhel5 10:17 < dgilmore> sorry it took so long i sent my proposal just before the meeting 10:17 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: I think your suggestion is very reasonable. 10:18 < nirik> dgilmore: +1 from me on your proposal. We can modify later if we need to. 10:18 < _blah_> for the record a link to the current version in the wiki is: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/GuidelinesAndPolicies#head-00c9e731bb7bc… 10:18 < dgilmore> If there are no objections we will take that as accepted 10:19 -!- bpepple|lt [n=bpepple|(a)adsl-75-42-209-184.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 10:20 -!- alexxed [n=alex(a)dyn-89.136.44.20.tm.upcnet.ro] has left #fedora-meeting [] 10:20 < nirik> shall we move on? 10:20 < dgilmore> I think so 10:20 -!- dgilmore changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: new push scripts for pushing to testing, adjust mock configs to use 10:20 -!- bpepple [n=bpepple(a)adsl-75-42-209-184.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:20 < dgilmore> i still need to do this 10:21 < dgilmore> I will do it tonight 10:21 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: can you remind me if i dont please 10:21 < nirik> so for security (if any) we are going to manually move packages as needed? 10:21 < mmcgrath> will do 10:21 < dgilmore> yes 10:21 < dgilmore> security will need manual handling 10:22 < nirik> sounds good. Let me know if I can assist any with that. 10:22 < dgilmore> will do 10:22 -!- dgilmore changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: EPEL Meeting: EPEL announcement happened -- what next? 10:23 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: good question. 10:23 < mmcgrath> Things are going pretty well. 10:23 < dgilmore> OK what now? 10:23 < nirik> more packages, more maintainers, more users. ;) 10:23 -!- rwmjones [n=rwmjones(a)87.127.66.208] has quit ["Closed connection"] 10:23 < nirik> if we could move to koji at some point and bodhi that would be good... 10:24 < dgilmore> that needs to be done but requires coders 10:24 < nirik> yeah. ;( 10:25 < dgilmore> does anyone have ideas on how to get more packages in EPEL 10:26 < nirik> I have some more I am going to do, but haven't had time... hopefully soon I will get munin in and possibly will look at Xfce (matching the centos extra versions so we don't conflict if possible) 10:27 < dgilmore> i think xfce would be good to have 10:27 < dgilmore> i think silug has yet to build alot of his perl modules due to missing deps 10:27 < mmcgrath> <nod> 10:28 < mmcgrath> There are a lot of things we'd like to branch that deps are missing for 10:28 < nirik> just takes time to make sure things are branched and then work right, etc... 10:29 < dgilmore> yep 10:29 < _blah_> i'd like to see rt3 and bugzilla 3 in there 10:29 < dgilmore> it would be nice for someone to see whats branched and not built 10:30 < nirik> 11 open epel bugs... so we have some users at least. ;) 10:31 < nirik> shall we talk yum for epel4 ? 10:31 -!- rwmjones [n=rwmjones(a)87.127.66.208] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:31 < nirik> and move what next? to the mailing list? 10:33 < dgilmore> i think we should talk about yum on the list 10:34 < dgilmore> I personally think we provide the version thats in CentOS but without a /etc/yum.conf file 10:34 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: do you agree with the 0. in release? 10:36 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: i see the point of it yeah 10:37 < nirik> yeah, it seems fine to me... 10:37 -!- AravindSeshadri [n=AravindS(a)0-11-43-71-59-38.ceat.okstate.edu] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:38 < mmcgrath> I guess we want to ship yum with no yum configs. 10:38 < mmcgrath> maybe a /etc/yum.conf that contains a comment to note that it shouldn't be used. 10:39 < nirik> yeah... 10:42 < dgilmore> yep 10:42 < dgilmore> that seems sane 10:42 < dgilmore> lets put it on the list get buy in from everyone 10:42 -!- dgilmore changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: EPEL Meeting: Free chat 10:42 < dgilmore> anyone have anything to add? 10:42 * mmcgrath has nothing 10:43 * dgilmore will close in 60 10:43 * dgilmore will close in 30 10:43 * dgilmore will close in 20 10:44 * dgilmore will close in 10 10:44 -!- notting [i=notting@redhat/notting] has left #fedora-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] 10:44 < dgilmore> ==== Meeting closed =====

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