On Feb 9, 2008 7:22 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora(a)leemhuis.info> wrote:
On 04.02.2008 18:24, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> Any topics for the next meeting?
Xavier seems to do a good in that area. Thx for that Xavier!
> What else can be done?
RHEL5 is now 11 months old iirc, so RHEL6 is still likely more then one
year away. That seems a long time, but on the other hand I suppose that
means we'll have the first beta in about 6-9 months and we need to start
preparing EPEL6 then.
I was thinking it would be about 7-8 months away for RHEL-6 (18 month
release cycle between major releases)... plus the fact that it has
sort of been a 3 release cycle (FC-0, FC-3,FC-6,FC-9?).. but that is
probably useless speculation.
I'd wondering if we should soon start with a preparation for the
preparation by reconsidering to realize a old EPEL idea.
What I want to say is: When EPEL did its baby steps there was the idea
to form a "EPEL task force" (or what did we call it?): a dedicated group
of people interested in EPEL that helps Fedora owners when they need
help. Here is a example to explain the idea behind that group:
- Fedora owner wants to see his package in EPEL, but has no EL release
and no interest to run centos in a VM
- Fedora owner nevertheless builds his package in EPEL; the EPEL task
force (as a group, not as a individual) becomes comaintainer
- if needed (e.g. in case of EPEL specific bugs or a urgent update that
needs to be tested to quickly get it moved from testing to stable) the
Fedora maintainer yells "EPEL task force, please help".
- someone from the "EPEL task force" helps
Such a concept could help a lot when EPEL6 gets prepared. We could look
out for the subset of rawhide packages that we'd really like to have in
EPEL6. Then mail the package owners that are not participating in EPEL
yet and tell them something like "RHEL6 is nearly the same as the 'core'
of Fedora right now, so it's the perfect time to build you Fedora
package in EPEL6; chances are quite big that it'll just build without
any modifications. If you want you can ask the EPEL Task Force to become
official comaintainer; the guys from the task force can then later help
if you need help with EPEL-specific problems".
The same concept liekly has benefits for EPEL4 and EPEL5 as well, but
the more Fedora moves on it becomes different from RHEL; as a result it
becomes harder for people to adjust a Fedora package for EPEL. That's
why getting lots of Fedora packages into EPEL6 when RHEL6 ships seems to
be important to me.
Just a idea and just my 2 cent.
It does sound good. I was trying to experiment at home with a build
all of Fedora-8/9 for EL-4/EL-5 to see what is possible (sort of a
EPEL-rawhide :)) having it with the EL-6 beta would give it a clean
idea of what is going to work and what won't. Having a team of people
to help do the work with the maintainers is even better.
One last thing to add to the agenda. Marketing issues:
The Fedora art team can help us with this.. but we need to have some
idea of what they should draw.
Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator
How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed
in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"