On 20.05.2007 16:01, Axel Thimm wrote:
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 03:19:50PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 18.05.2007 20:02, Axel Thimm wrote:
>> On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:50:09AM -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
>> [...]
>> fpc had signaled that they would
>> pass any decision of epel to introduce repotags
> Hmm, I got different signals from Spot, which leads the Fedora Packaging
> Committee.
> See:
>
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-April/msg01393.html
> Quoting
> ----
> But I'd like to point out that I'm still fundamentally opposed to the
> repotag, as I've yet to hear what problem it solves, aside from the
> "other repos want it" problem.
> ~spot
a) spot is not an inanimate object
Sorry, my english skills fail to parse that. What do did you mean?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/inanimate
Did you mean something like "Spot can change his opinion"?
b) quoting only half the quotes always biases towards your view, of
course. There is also:
"Indeed. I'm not necessarily opposed to the repotag being part of
%{dist} for EPEL, but I am opposed to making %{dist}
mandatory. [...] ~spot" (and you were part of that thread)
Sorry, the thread is some weeks old I don't remember each every detail.
And I at least give pointers to the mails where somebody wrote something
when I quote him.
Further: I for one think a repotags only makes sense if it's used
everywhere. Dist isn't used everywhere and not mandatory, thus I'd
prefer not to abuse it.
c) contrary to epel's leadership structure fpc works democratic
w/o an
overpowered chairman,
The EPEL chairmen has no special powers. He just organizes and
coordinates -- that includes voting and is part of being a chairmen job
in my understanding (and done like that in FESCo, too).
so even if spot would vote against it, there
are still N-1 other voters
I just mentioned what impression I got from talking to the FPC chairmen.
Not more. Not less.
Further: I know from Jesse's statement from a recent FESCo meeting that
he is also against repotags. But yes, I don't know the other peoples
opinion. Do you? I actually wanted to know what FPC thinks about the
repotags (see the #fedora-devel quote in this thread) but didn't get one
until today.
And BTW I'm in no mood to start picking up infinite threads with
you
again. Really. You want to present as if all the world, but you
blocked repotags, that's fine.
We did not understood us there. I back then was against a blind vote
"EPEL uses repotags" without knowing the consequences for out packagers
(e.g. the technical implementation details). So I voted for "no", even
if I was not opposed heavily to repotags in general.
In reality it was really you as a major
opponent to repotags that brought us here.
If someone that wanted repotags did now what I try to do now (e.g. get
some row technical details in place before a voting) or worked out a
solution with the Fedora Packaging Committee before doing the EPEL vote
I might would have abstained a vote or might even have given a "+1" if
the solution was sane.
Do I sound like I'm pissed off? Maybe I do, and maybe I am. I
just
don't like playing hide and seek or "pass the old maid".
Axel, I really wanted and want to have you participating in EPEL. I even
wanted you in the Steering Committee -- that why I proposed you for it
when I presented the proposal for a Steering Committee to FESCo. I still
hope you can reconsider your leave and join us again.
Cu
thl