tomcat7 ?

[Dmitry Makovey]

Hi EPEL'ers,

I've noticed that tomcat-7.x is in Fedora and I would like to ask
whether it is possible to add it to EPEL ? While tomcat is
self-contained it may be that some of the dependencies may have to be
bumped from their RHEL versions. Does anybody knows bit more detail
before I dive into the subject of bringing tomcat7 to RHEL6 platform?
Would this be considered a conflict with RHEL channels? What if the name
have been changed?

[Greg Swift]

I did just look at this a little this week.  Here is what I noticed:

1: jakarta-commons versus apache-commons
2: buildRequires circular dependency of tomcat7 -> geronimo-jaxrpc ->
servlet (which tomcat7 provides)

then i just went to the jpackage release cause i needed to finish what i
was doing.

-greg

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Dmitry Makovey  wrote:
> Hi EPEL'ers,
>
> I've noticed that tomcat-7.x is in Fedora and I would like to ask
> whether it is possible to add it to EPEL ? While tomcat is
> self-contained it may be that some of the dependencies may have to be
> bumped from their RHEL versions. Does anybody knows bit more detail
> before I dive into the subject of bringing tomcat7 to RHEL6 platform?
> Would this be considered a conflict with RHEL channels? What if the name
> have been changed?
>
> --
> Dmitry Makovey
> Web Systems Administrator
> Athabasca University
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>
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[Dmitry Makovey]

On 12/06/2012 10:25 AM, Greg Swift wrote:
> I did just look at this a little this week.  Here is what I noticed:
>
> 1: jakarta-commons versus apache-commons
> 2: buildRequires circular dependency of tomcat7 -> geronimo-jaxrpc ->
> servlet (which tomcat7 provides)

which SPEC files were you using? rhel:tomcat6.spec + version bump, or
fedora:tomcat.spec or jpackage:tomcat7.spec ? Just curious about the
starting point. My idea was to grab Fedora's spec and massage it into
submission. Main point (aside from libraries & their versions) would
probably be the startup script as RHEL doesn't use systemd. But that
should be easy to address and possibly plead for conditional SPEC file
with RHEL-based builds using init.d startup vs Fedora's systemd.

However it's still unclear whether EPEL would be the place for such
build as RHN offers tomcat7 under JBoss channel which may be in conflict
with EPEL guidelines.
> then i just went to the jpackage release cause i needed to finish what i
> was doing.

OT:
hmm. My past experience with Jpackage+RHEL was a mixed bag with
conflicting packages and rather peculiar resulting install sets (mix of
RHEL and Jpackage rpm's). Have you used "yum-plugin-priorities" to get
around those conflicts?
> -greg
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Dmitry Makovey  wrote:
> > Hi EPEL'ers,
> >
> > I've noticed that tomcat-7.x is in Fedora and I would like to ask
> > whether it is possible to add it to EPEL ? While tomcat is
> > self-contained it may be that some of the dependencies may have to be
> > bumped from their RHEL versions. Does anybody knows bit more detail
> > before I dive into the subject of bringing tomcat7 to RHEL6 platform?
> > Would this be considered a conflict with RHEL channels? What if the name
> > have been changed?
> >
> > --
> > Dmitry Makovey
> > Web Systems Administrator
> > Athabasca University
> > [phone]
> >
> > Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem
> >     Woody Allen
> >
> > When in trouble when in doubt run in circles scream and shout
> >      http://www.wordwizard.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=19330
> >
> > epel-devel-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/epel-devel-list
>
> epel-devel-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/epel-devel-list

[Greg Swift]

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Dmitry Makovey  wrote:
> On 12/06/2012 10:25 AM, Greg Swift wrote:
> > I did just look at this a little this week.  Here is what I noticed:
> >
> > 1: jakarta-commons versus apache-commons
> > 2: buildRequires circular dependency of tomcat7 -> geronimo-jaxrpc ->
> > servlet (which tomcat7 provides)
>
> which SPEC files were you using? rhel:tomcat6.spec + version bump, or
> fedora:tomcat.spec or jpackage:tomcat7.spec ? Just curious about the
> starting point. My idea was to grab Fedora's spec and massage it into
> submission. Main point (aside from libraries & their versions) would
> probably be the startup script as RHEL doesn't use systemd. But that
> should be easy to address and possibly plead for conditional SPEC file
> with RHEL-based builds using init.d startup vs Fedora's systemd.

So I started with the fedora:tomcat.spec.  The init scripts are actually
still there in a sub package, which is handy.  I had forgotten that I
pulled all the systemd stuph out and moved the sysv bits back into the base
package.

here is the spec: http://nytefyre.net/rpms/tomcat.spec

so, obviously, it doesn't work.
> However it's still unclear whether EPEL would be the place for such
> build as RHN offers tomcat7 under JBoss channel which may be in conflict
> with EPEL guidelines.

does the JBoss channel count as a conflict? I thought based on the recent
discussions that it didn't.
> > then i just went to the jpackage release cause i needed to finish what i
> > was doing.
>
> OT:
> hmm. My past experience with Jpackage+RHEL was a mixed bag with
> conflicting packages and rather peculiar resulting install sets (mix of
> RHEL and Jpackage rpm's). Have you used "yum-plugin-priorities" to get
> around those conflicts?
>
> I didn't run into any dependency issues at this point, and we were

previously using a more limited locally packaged version.   We'd definitely
prefer an EPEL version to just negate that risk.