EPEL Meeting: Last Call for topics for 2008-03-26

[Stephen John Smoogen]

Current agenda:

Election of committee member(s)
  Xavier Lamien
  Andy Gospodarek

New meeting time?

Status Reports:
 Current build system (any plague problems?)
 Next gen build system (any work on Koji patch?)
 Package pushes (EL-4 1st of month, EL-5 15th of month)
 RHEL Meta Data

Package issues:
 RT-3
 Zenoss
 mediawiki request from infrastructure team
 any orphans

Website Issues:
 Updating text in FAQ, etc to match current policies. Who, what, when
 Marketing [no takers on EPEL art.. going to wing it]

Standing issues:
  EPEL taskforce for EL-4.7/5.2/EL-6: Who, what, when

Need to do more on the lists and less in the meetings....

[Michael Stahnke]

I probably won't make the meeting.
> RHEL Meta Data

As I tried to explain in the past, this is difficult, because it's an
unknown target.  Some people want full search capabilities of RHN, and
we can't easily provide that.  For most cases, however, repoquery and
yum give enough good information.
The most common use cases I see are:
   * What's the version of package XYZ in RHEL?  (Use yum/repoquery)
   * Is package XYZ included in RHEL?  (Use yum/repoquery)
   * What are the differences in packages between CentOS and RHEL ? (
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.1/#head-bcaed48ff64328cc...)

More obscure cases
  * What package provides lib-XYZ?
 * How do I see the changelog for packages?  (Repoquery again)
 * Is package foo included in other Red Hat channel other than base
RHEL.  (This one is a bit harder).
 * What packages are coming up in RHEL version X.Y+1 that will
obsolete EPEL packages? (again, not a clear way)

stahnma

[Michael Stahnke]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Michael Stahnke  wrote:
> I probably won't make the meeting.
> > RHEL Meta Data
>
> As I tried to explain in the past, this is difficult, because it's an
>  unknown target.  Some people want full search capabilities of RHN, and
>  we can't easily provide that.  For most cases, however, repoquery and
>  yum give enough good information.
>  The most common use cases I see are:
> What's the version of package XYZ in RHEL?  (Use yum/repoquery)
> Is package XYZ included in RHEL?  (Use yum/repoquery)
> What are the differences in packages between CentOS and RHEL ? (
>
> http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.1/#head-bcaed48ff64328cc...)
>
> More obscure cases
> What package provides lib-XYZ?
> How do I see the changelog for packages?  (Repoquery again)
> Is package foo included in other Red Hat channel other than base
>
> RHEL.  (This one is a bit harder).
> What packages are coming up in RHEL version X.Y+1 that will
>
> obsolete EPEL packages? (again, not a clear way)
>
> stahnma

Basically, if we could put a really nice front end on repoquery, most
problems would be easily solved.  I think some of the issues are not
everyone having an EL box to build upon.

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Michael Stahnke  wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Michael Stahnke  wrote:
> > I probably won't make the meeting.
> > > RHEL Meta Data
> >
> > As I tried to explain in the past, this is difficult, because it's an
> >  unknown target.  Some people want full search capabilities of RHN, and
> >  we can't easily provide that.  For most cases, however, repoquery and
> >  yum give enough good information.
> >  The most common use cases I see are:
> > What's the version of package XYZ in RHEL?  (Use yum/repoquery)
> > Is package XYZ included in RHEL?  (Use yum/repoquery)
> > What are the differences in packages between CentOS and RHEL ? (
> >
> > http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.1/#head-bcaed48ff64328cc...)
> >
> > More obscure cases
> > What package provides lib-XYZ?
> > How do I see the changelog for packages?  (Repoquery again)
> > Is package foo included in other Red Hat channel other than base
> >
> > RHEL.  (This one is a bit harder).
> > What packages are coming up in RHEL version X.Y+1 that will
> >
> > obsolete EPEL packages? (again, not a clear way)
> >
> > stahnma
>
> Basically, if we could put a really nice front end on repoquery, most
>  problems would be easily solved.  I think some of the issues are not
>  everyone having an EL box to build upon.

Does the equivalent of the old 'comps' rpm give equivalent information?

And thanks for the update.

[Michael Schwendt]

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:19:00 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> Status Reports:
>  Current build system (any plague problems?)

No fatal traceback, no lock-up, no file-copy problems since end of last
year. Rock-solid after the last fixes. Unless an OOM condition kills
builders as has happened frequently this year.
The master server runs code that's equivalent to plague-0.4.4.1-10.el4,
the builders run 0.4.4.1-6.el5. As a bonus, if you prefer a pkg with less
patches, check out the Plague-0_4_5 branch in cvs where everything except
the 2-3 Extras/EPEL-specific patches has been applied.