Voting: Vetoing fedora-usermgmt until FPC makes a decision

[Axel Thimm]

Voting topic: Packages should not use fedora-usermgmt or other
non-standard useradd replacements.

Background: Large thread starting at
https://www.redhat.com/archives/epel-devel-list/2007-March/msg00029.html,
also many threads on various non-epel lists, too many to list here.

Voting period: until 20070410 UTC 23:59
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 04.04.2007 22:31, Axel Thimm wrote:
>  Voting topic: Packages should not use fedora-usermgmt or other
>  non-standard useradd replacements.
>  
>  Background: Large thread starting at
>  https://www.redhat.com/archives/epel-devel-list/2007-March/msg00029.html,
>  also many threads on various non-epel lists, too many to list here.
>  
>  Voting period: until 20070410 UTC 23:59 
Same as in the other mail. Sum the discussions up before asking for a
voting.

CU
thl

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 05.04.2007 06:44, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>  
>  On 04.04.2007 22:31, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > Voting topic: Packages should not use fedora-usermgmt or other
> > non-standard useradd replacements.
> >
> > Background: Large thread starting at
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/epel-devel-list/2007-March/msg00029.html,
> > also many threads on various non-epel lists, too many to list here.
> >
> > Voting period: until 20070410 UTC 23:59
>  
>  Same as in the other mail. Sum the discussions up before asking for a
>  voting. 
BTW, the whole voting via the wiki is IMHO a experiment ATM. I'd really
like to see the repotag and the fedora-usermgmt stuff discussed in a
meeting.

CU
thl

[Axel Thimm]

On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 06:44:55AM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>  
>  
>  On 04.04.2007 22:31, Axel Thimm wrote:
>  > Voting topic: Packages should not use fedora-usermgmt or other
>  > non-standard useradd replacements.
>  > 
>  > Background: Large thread starting at
>  > https://www.redhat.com/archives/epel-devel-list/2007-March/msg00029.html,
>  > also many threads on various non-epel lists, too many to list here.
>  > 
>  > Voting period: until 20070410 UTC 23:59
>  
>  Same as in the other mail. Sum the discussions up before asking for a
>  voting. 
I'm probably too biased (or at least I can't see any cons in dropping
this), and I think people here have seen way too much of this
discussion on 3 lists over a month by now.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 05.04.2007 09:04, Axel Thimm wrote:
>  On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 06:44:55AM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> >
> > On 04.04.2007 22:31, Axel Thimm wrote:
> >> Voting topic: Packages should not use fedora-usermgmt or other
> >> non-standard useradd replacements.
> >>
> >> Background: Large thread starting at
> >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/epel-devel-list/2007-March/msg00029.html,
> >> also many threads on various non-epel lists, too many to list here.
> >>
> >> Voting period: until 20070410 UTC 23:59
> > Same as in the other mail. Sum the discussions up before asking for a
> > voting.
>  
>  I'm probably too biased (or at least I can't see any cons in dropping
>  this), and I think people here have seen way too much of this
>  discussion on 3 lists over a month by now. 
Con: several packages that are in Fedora can't get into EPEL right now
and would need to be adjusted; that's would be a burden for the
maintainer that then might say "well, if they make it hard for me then I
don't care about EPEL and stick to Fedora"

Con: several packages would have to wait for the decision of the
Packaging committee before they can enter EPEL; that can take some time.

Two quite big Cons for me.

CU
thl

[Axel Thimm]

On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:31:18AM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>  
>  
>  On 05.04.2007 09:04, Axel Thimm wrote:
>  > On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 06:44:55AM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>  >>
>  >> On 04.04.2007 22:31, Axel Thimm wrote:
>  >>> Voting topic: Packages should not use fedora-usermgmt or other
>  >>> non-standard useradd replacements.
>  >>>
>  >>> Background: Large thread starting at
>  >>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/epel-devel-list/2007-March/msg00029.html,
>  >>> also many threads on various non-epel lists, too many to list here.
>  >>>
>  >>> Voting period: until 20070410 UTC 23:59
>  >> Same as in the other mail. Sum the discussions up before asking for a
>  >> voting.
>  > 
>  > I'm probably too biased (or at least I can't see any cons in dropping
>  > this), and I think people here have seen way too much of this
>  > discussion on 3 lists over a month by now.
>  
>  Con: [...]
>  
>  Con: [...] 
Looks like you aren't biased at all. ;)
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net

[Bernard Johnson]

Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>  Con: several packages that are in Fedora can't get into EPEL
> right now
>  and would need to be adjusted; that's would be a burden for the
>  maintainer that then might say "well, if they make it hard for me then I
>  don't care about EPEL and stick to Fedora"
>
>     
I already have two packages that use fedora-usermgmt that have been
branched to EPEL.  What about them?


I don't feel strongly either way regarding using or not using
fedora-usermgmt, however, I do feel strongly about branching the spec
file because one repo can use it and another doesn't allow it.

/me currently awaiting someone's decision :)