Request: backwards incompatible bodhi update

[Randy Barlow]

Hello!

As you may be aware, Bodhi 2.0 is deployed in production[0] while Bodhi
0.9 is packaged in the Fedora and EPEL repositories[1]. The tl;dr of
this post is that we are interested in updating the bodhi package in
EPEL 7 to the newer 2.x release series so that the client will work
with the production deployment of Bodhi. Unfortunately, the 2.x CLI is
not backwards compatible with the 0.9 series.

The incompatible upgrades policy[2] suggests that we should instead
create a new package called bodhi2, since our reason for upgrading the
bodhi package is not security related. I'm happy to go with that policy
if the discussion here leads down that path, but I'd like to request an
exception in this case since the bodhi 0.9 CLI is not fully compatible
with the Bodhi 2 server.

What do you think?

[0] https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/
[1] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/bodhi
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL_incompatible_upgrades_policy

[Neal Gompa]

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Randy Barlow
 wrote:
> Hello!
>
> As you may be aware, Bodhi 2.0 is deployed in production[0] while Bodhi
> 0.9 is packaged in the Fedora and EPEL repositories[1]. The tl;dr of
> this post is that we are interested in updating the bodhi package in
> EPEL 7 to the newer 2.x release series so that the client will work
> with the production deployment of Bodhi. Unfortunately, the 2.x CLI is
> not backwards compatible with the 0.9 series.
>
> The incompatible upgrades policy[2] suggests that we should instead
> create a new package called bodhi2, since our reason for upgrading the
> bodhi package is not security related. I'm happy to go with that policy
> if the discussion here leads down that path, but I'd like to request an
> exception in this case since the bodhi 0.9 CLI is not fully compatible
> with the Bodhi 2 server.
>
> What do you think?

It makes sense to me to go ahead and upgrade it. I don't know of any
other Bodhi instances out there, and frankly broken software needs to
be removed from the repos as soon as possible. It puzzles me that this
hasn't been resolved before...

[Randy Barlow]

On Wed, 2016-07-27 at 17:12 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> It makes sense to me to go ahead and upgrade it. I don't know of any
> other Bodhi instances out there, and frankly broken software needs to
> be removed from the repos as soon as possible. It puzzles me that
> this
> hasn't been resolved before...

Thank you for your feedback Neal! I would like to ask the group to
discuss this in the next EPEL weekly meeting, so we can begin to move
forward with updating bodhi. According to the incompatible upgrades
policy[0], this should be discussed at a weekly EPEL meeting. However,
I wasn't able to find out when the EPEL weekly meeting is on the EPEL
calendar[1]. When/where is the next EPEL meeting?

Thanks for your consideration!

[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL_incompatible_upgrades_policy
[1] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/epel/2016/8/8/

[Stephen John Smoogen]

EPEL Steeting Committee Meetings are held on Wednesdays at 1900 UTC.
The next one should be on the 11th.

On 5 August 2016 at 08:30, Randy Barlow  wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-07-27 at 17:12 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > It makes sense to me to go ahead and upgrade it. I don't know of any
> > other Bodhi instances out there, and frankly broken software needs to
> > be removed from the repos as soon as possible. It puzzles me that
> > this
> > hasn't been resolved before...
>
> Thank you for your feedback Neal! I would like to ask the group to
> discuss this in the next EPEL weekly meeting, so we can begin to move
> forward with updating bodhi. According to the incompatible upgrades
> policy[0], this should be discussed at a weekly EPEL meeting. However,
> I wasn't able to find out when the EPEL weekly meeting is on the EPEL
> calendar[1]. When/where is the next EPEL meeting?
>
> Thanks for your consideration!
>
> [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL_incompatible_upgrades_policy
> [1] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/epel/2016/8/8/
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[Randy Barlow]

During today's EPEL meeting it was agreed that we would proceed with releasing a backwards-incompatible update to EPEL 7. See 5a.:

https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-08-10/epel.2016-08-10-...