Mate desktop environment update

[Menanteau]

Hi there,

is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?

There was a demand to update to Mate 1.8 years ago but I didn't see any 
answer.  Mate 1.24 is currently available.

Thanks

[Troy Dawson]

If you (or others) haven't already done so, a bugzilla requesting an
update might be best.
Many times packagers aren't on the epel-devel mailing list, and/or
have it filtered.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:22 AM Menanteau  wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?
>
> There was a demand to update to Mate 1.8 years ago but I didn't see any
> answer.  Mate 1.24 is currently available.
>
> Thanks
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[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 05:21, Menanteau  wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?

EPEL is not a distribution and does not have 'plans' to produce things for
certain releases. Nobody is paid to work on EPEL versus paid to work on
Fedora so the packages here are those that volunteers have the time and
energy to do. Thus EPEL is more of a Stone Soup collection of packages
branched from Fedora. I believe we are currently looking for new
maintainers of the MATE and Cinnamon stacks as the people who were doing
various parts have had other things come up in the last year for a good
portion of their time (I may be confusing this with some other desktops
however).
> There was a demand to update to Mate 1.8 years ago but I didn't see any
> answer.  Mate 1.24 is currently available.
>
> Thanks
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[Greg Bailey]

On 6/5/20 2:21 AM, Menanteau wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?
>
> There was a demand to update to Mate 1.8 years ago but I didn't see 
> any answer.  Mate 1.24 is currently available.
>
> Thanks

I run Mate on both CentOS 7 and CentOS 8.

For CentOS 7, I run Mate 1.20 using RPMs I built myself that are in turn 
derived from the sources in Fedora.  I've posted previously about this 
build and how others could use it if they want [1].

For CentOS 8, I run Mate 1.22 using the stenstorp copr repo [2].

Both builds of Mate have worked flawlessly.  I'd love to see the EPEL 
build of Mate upgraded for CentOS 7, and introduced for CentOS 8.  I'm a 
Fedora packager and have considered assisting with this, but I believe 
the Fedora maintainer is not interested in EPEL builds of this, and I 
don't have experience with managing larger groups of packages like Mate.

-Greg

[1] https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2019-October/173799.html
[2]  https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/

[H]

On June 5, 2020 11:21:07 AM EDT, Greg Bailey  wrote:
> On 6/5/20 2:21 AM, Menanteau wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?
> >
> > There was a demand to update to Mate 1.8 years ago but I didn't see 
> > any answer.  Mate 1.24 is currently available.
> >
> > Thanks
>
> I run Mate on both CentOS 7 and CentOS 8.
>
> For CentOS 7, I run Mate 1.20 using RPMs I built myself that are in
> turn 
> derived from the sources in Fedora.  I've posted previously about this 
> build and how others could use it if they want [1].
>
> For CentOS 8, I run Mate 1.22 using the stenstorp copr repo [2].
>
> Both builds of Mate have worked flawlessly.  I'd love to see the EPEL 
> build of Mate upgraded for CentOS 7, and introduced for CentOS 8.  I'm
> a 
> Fedora packager and have considered assisting with this, but I believe 
> the Fedora maintainer is not interested in EPEL builds of this, and I 
> don't have experience with managing larger groups of packages like
> Mate.
>
> -Greg
>
> [1] https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2019-October/173799.html
> [2]  https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/
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Greg,

I should really try to build it myself since I have a problem with HiDPI monitors not properly supported in the available build. I need to review your notes carefully since I have no experience building anything complex - yet...

Have you also tried to build the most recent version available?

I do wish it was maintained in EPEL.

[Greg Bailey]

On 6/5/20 10:35 AM, H wrote:
> On June 5, 2020 11:21:07 AM EDT, Greg Bailey  wrote:
> > On 6/5/20 2:21 AM, Menanteau wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?
> > >
> > > There was a demand to update to Mate 1.8 years ago but I didn't see
> > > any answer.  Mate 1.24 is currently available.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > I run Mate on both CentOS 7 and CentOS 8.
> >
> > For CentOS 7, I run Mate 1.20 using RPMs I built myself that are in
> > turn
> > derived from the sources in Fedora.  I've posted previously about this
> > build and how others could use it if they want [1].
> >
> > For CentOS 8, I run Mate 1.22 using the stenstorp copr repo [2].
> >
> > Both builds of Mate have worked flawlessly.  I'd love to see the EPEL
> > build of Mate upgraded for CentOS 7, and introduced for CentOS 8.  I'm
> > a
> > Fedora packager and have considered assisting with this, but I believe
> > the Fedora maintainer is not interested in EPEL builds of this, and I
> > don't have experience with managing larger groups of packages like
> > Mate.
> >
> > -Greg
> >
> > [1] https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2019-October/173799.html
> > [2]  https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/
>
> Greg,
>
> I should really try to build it myself since I have a problem with HiDPI monitors not properly supported in the available build. I need to review your notes carefully since I have no experience building anything complex - yet...

By "the available build" are you referring to the current 1.16 version 
in EPEL 7 ?  You should be able to try my 1.20 build by adding a yum repo.
> Have you also tried to build the most recent version available?

I think I tried building Mate 1.22 on CentOS 7 but ran into issues where 
it needed a newer GCC than CentOS 7 provides, and I wasn't up for the 
complexity challenge of building it using a different toolchain...  :)

-Greg

[Andrew C Aitchison]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020, Greg Bailey wrote:
> I think I tried building Mate 1.22 on CentOS 7 but ran into issues where it 
> needed a newer GCC than CentOS 7 provides, and I wasn't up for the complexity 
> challenge of building it using a different toolchain...  :)

CentOS 7 has the softwarecollections repo with the devtoolset packages, eg
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/sclo/x86_64/rh/Packages/d/devtoolset-7-gcc...
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/sclo/x86_64/rh/Packages/d/devtoolset-7-gcc...

I haven't tried on SL7/CentOS7/RHEL7 but on SL6, the devtoolset packages 
make using a newer GCC trivial with the "scl" command.

I do admit that I prefer the environment modules I have written as
an alternative to scl (they change the environment of the existing shell 
rather than putting me in a new shell with the new compilers).