fedora-join September 2016

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Fwd: Want to be Fedora contributor? Start with Fedora 25 translation sprint!
by Pete Travis 02 Sep '16

02 Sep '16

This might be interesting for the folks on this list: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Jona Azizaj" <jonatoni(a)fedoraproject.org> Date: Sep 2, 2016 7:42 AM Subject: Want to be Fedora contributor? Start with Fedora 25 translation sprint! To: <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Cc: We often meet many Fedora users that say, “How can I contribute something to Fedora?” or “How do I become part of Fedora?” This is the right time to reach all those users and inform them they can be contributors! Why now? For translations, users already know their local language. Its just a matter of using translation tools like Zanata to get those translations in. This is also one good way to learn about processes in the Fedora community. It’s a fantastic chance to learn about packages, reviews, IRC, Bugzilla, mailing lists, etc. We’re having a Fedora Activity Day, or FAD, to finish translations prior to the next Beta release. We will be gathering online from 3th September to 9th September. We have a list of priority projects to translate and many languages to cover. In later stages, one can also help rewarding contributors and effectively closing the events with statistics and reports. Learn how you can give back to Fedora by helping translate Fedora to other languages [1]. Cheers, Jona [1] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-25-translation-sprint/ -- trans mailing list trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Discussion - issues with Fedora Join - solutions/ideas and TODOs?
by Ankur Sinha 02 Sep '16

02 Sep '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hiya, Before I begin, if you're a member of the Fedora community already, please apply for membership to the fedora-join group in FAS[1]. (That'll give us an idea of how many community members are interested in the SIG.) If you are a newbie and haven't introduced yourself yet, please do so. It's a somewhat long e-mail, but please bear with me and skim through it. I encourage *everyone* to reply to this e-mail with ideas/comments! Background and aim of this group - --------------------------------- For years now, we've heard that new potential contributors (henceforth referred to as "newbies") have a hard time joining the community. The reasons for this include, but are not limited to: - - newbies are timid (think squirrels!) - - newbies aren't used to the open source way of self education (Google the hell out of things, RTFM attitude, shamelessly ask questions if needed, NO spoon feeding and so on) - - newbies lose interest if they don't make friends and integrate into the community in a few weeks (few days?). - - the community is *vast*, spread over different teams with their own systems and procedures, and for someone new, finding the right people/channels/procedures can be quite daunting. - - community members are usually quite busy to give detailed replies - we're all volunteers here. - - more? So the idea of setting up the SIG was to set up channels of communication where newbies can come and in an extremely friendly environment form relationships within themselves, and with the community. For this to work, we need: - - the infrastructure. We have: * #fedora-join * this mailing list - - community members hanging out in these channels and willing to speak to newbies, help them get in touch with the right people, help them find the right resources, and so on. - - newbies. I hope this makes sense to everyone? Does everyone agree that the idea is a sane one? Any tweaks? How are we doing? - ------------------ Well, not too good, I'd say. We've helped out some folks in the past, but we're not as active as we should be. Ideally, we should be up to our ears in e-mails and questions and people. So why aren't we? - - Part of this is of course because we're busy with other things; - - Part of this is also because we haven't managed to gain enough traction to get more members of the community involved in helping out at the group. - - I'm not sure the entire community is aware of the existence of the channels we've set up - - I'm not sure if we are visible enough for newbies to find us (for example, we're not on whatcanidoforfedora.org) Other related reasons: - - we don't meet often (but do we need regular IRC meetings?) What can we do? - --------------- Now, this is the interesting bit! What do we do to improve the current state? Events (physical/IRC), make more noise, turn up in the right places, make ourselves more visible? Off the top of my head: - - We should make more noise to inform the community that we're here to help newbies get started - - I think we need to be better organised. For example, we don't have a SOP document (standard operating procedure) to guide either newbies or contributors to this group. Maybe we can set up a pagure repo where we open a new ticket for each newbie, and then close it when the newbie's integrated nicely with the community? - - We need to embrace metrics too - how many newbies do we have on this list? How many have we helped? Maybe we can set up a feedback form and request newbies to fill it out when they're ready? How many contributors do we have on this list? How often do people refer newbies to our channels? - - We need to integrate better with the community - we seem to be a standalone group at the moment, and that just won't work. Maybe we could integrate with CommOps better, since CommOps has members from the different teams? - - Maybe an IRC meeting a month just to keep ourselves active wouldn't be such a bad idea? - - The fas group is only for community members, do we need another for newbies? Should we just open the group to newbies? (This can then be used to give them wiki access which has been limited to cla+1 to deal with spam.) - - What else? Please, add to this list! Other stuff - ------------ Please do keep up with the Fedora hubs initiative[2]. It's going to be marvellous! It also has some functionality to enable people to join groups, but I still don't think it's a complete replacement for good old school conversation when it comes to forming relationships. Please, do reply to this e-mail with whatever ideas you have - we can't improve things without ideas and discussion. I'm still drowning in work, but when I do have time off (like this long weekend!), I'm going to be active. Most of you know that I lurk in a lot of fedora channels as FranciscoD, please feel free to ping me. [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/view/fedora-join [2] https://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2015-06-19/ - -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXxF/7AAoJEPjYwL66yJi90g8IAJKimXJRaGhbEIpKnYrpTRyk ltCHacYwwSpI2LJBKtmdvtZ9WU87r9/UgHDxOs8AB/BkFML56h6TU+jAkOOmo0CA i9anYGk9gcinBrWhEx43uKBlEEDKzX0abCKn0YlbWZbCVYml+Es5GnRMZjYNoTK+ tvUz6S3giWJPM+RD13dDQKXtEBW+Ep2dZkuDD/V4EWM6xFeJLeKbPyEs3U8Owr4Y RyNTE0IEUoldohQKbeTyEfIbgXbuBOUl3QV31kZUiVZKHo3LFYO11dw2XZCVzUgC O/Rc2B2CQCJh1soT/p6Y+sarpBWd65v/P96EFNUsiiQodMXCv8/4ja8WP9gjSi4= =92aM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Feedback request: whatcanidoforfedora.org
by Ankur Sinha 02 Sep '16

02 Sep '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hiya, I'm trying to collect some feedback on whatcanidoforfedora.org (wcidff). If you have a few minutes, can you please try it out and then answer these questions? - - are you a Fedora contributor? - - have you used wcidff before? - - how did you learn of wcidff? - - what language did you use wcidff in? - - what device did you use to access wcidff? - - did you find it useful? - - did it successfully find you something to work on or a team to join? - - how much time did it take you to find a task/team? - - do you think wcidff followed the right path in finding you a task/team? - - did you enjoy using wcidff? - - would you recommend wcidff to others? - - did wcidff help you understand the workings of the community better? - - do you feel more confident about contributing after using wcidff? Just yes/no answers will suffice, but feel free to give some comments if you wish :) - -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXx1pbAAoJEPjYwL66yJi9zUAIALLfz1qVyHWzP9q9D+dLo0SG 0II0Bd3PakpOk3wCUjx70f7lpDK5RfctjM4hp5tERys90DH6+ZEcKL/wTlt2BpNc 7bpl2KMDk3kB9FQf8Tzp64zpdYUulsZoa/Jq3z55HUxfEzwHSWti0JLIOUUGduP4 3Hi1PZpbm8uxRdmBtN6EZEItF0CUGH6ZHev+YV/2vgSxo7Ds9XEnWlc7vN/7Bga+ YD+TUJXy3TVVkJdaYJVaB1OKkVo6nwjugA67zGkZWmRnyFF+5EX8vpMD5gb933Kg 0TL5dvT+i5oXkMlY2sG3ykEz6zyWXAxWycbhECtGiRhrrPE8lY26z6XhGr481ZM= =/UuF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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