Hey all,
Meant to send this out last night but I ended up forgetting. Anyways, Gabri poked in IRC that now that F23 is out, we can begin moving forward with executing one of these first Join-Days to promote activity in the different subgroups across Fedora.
We mentioned somewhere that Marketing might be the best place to run the first Join-Day as that was an area that at least a few of us are directly involved in and it might make it easier for us to try doing the first one. Later on, we could begin reaching out to other parts of the project, e.g. engineering / development groups, etc.
With that in mind, how do we want to go about poaching this first Join-Day? Assuming Marketing is the subgroup that we want to do first, would we want to make it a very general marketing Join-Day, or more specific, e.g. Fedora Magazine Join-Day?
Once we can decide what subgroup / parts of a subgroup we want to target first, I think we can begin making steps toward planning the details for how it will work.
jflory,
One of the ways to help with a Join Day is to have clear onboarding paths for that particular subproject or team.
One of the first tasks for our soon-to-be Outreachy Intern will be establishing onboarding badge series' for each team and subproject! As an example of this, we have the "bootstrapped" series, which is in progress, but includes a number of common badges that help to introduce new contributors generally to a number of aspects of the project. (See: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/409)
Even if we don't have a badge series identified yet, having the steps listed to join a particular group will help with both creating the series, and engaging with new contributors in an event like a Join-Day.
That's my $.02, --RemyD.
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Justin W. Flory jflory7@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all,
Meant to send this out last night but I ended up forgetting. Anyways, Gabri poked in IRC that now that F23 is out, we can begin moving forward with executing one of these first Join-Days to promote activity in the different subgroups across Fedora.
We mentioned somewhere that Marketing might be the best place to run the first Join-Day as that was an area that at least a few of us are directly involved in and it might make it easier for us to try doing the first one. Later on, we could begin reaching out to other parts of the project, e.g. engineering / development groups, etc.
With that in mind, how do we want to go about poaching this first Join-Day? Assuming Marketing is the subgroup that we want to do first, would we want to make it a very general marketing Join-Day, or more specific, e.g. Fedora Magazine Join-Day?
Once we can decide what subgroup / parts of a subgroup we want to target first, I think we can begin making steps toward planning the details for how it will work.
-- Cheers,
Justin W. Flory jflory7@gmail.com
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Hello Justin!
Il giorno ven, 06/11/2015 alle 14.01 -0500, Justin W. Flory ha scritto:
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We mentioned somewhere that Marketing might be the best place to run the first Join-Day as that was an area that at least a few of us are directly involved in and it might make it easier for us to try doing the first one.
Correct (maybe we discussed in the meeting we had some days ago).
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With that in mind, how do we want to go about poaching this first Join-Day? Assuming Marketing is the subgroup that we want to do first, would we want to make it a very general marketing Join-Day, or more specific, e.g. Fedora Magazine Join-Day?
I have to do some enhancements on the marketing tasks (intended as general part of it) and in the wiki, so is not the best point from where to start. I think magazine, within the mktg workflow, currently is the most effective section where people can get involved. Its workflow is very clear, and also is the entry point of the project.
Magazine is attracting many users and has great visibility as well.
Of course Justin, Paul and Ryan are fully qualified for reach all the request and they are able to explain the process.
I think the next steps are:
1) create a workflow specifically for this day. 2) choose the tool we'd like to use (IRC? Hangouts?) IMO IRC is still the best, the fedora-join channel is quiet enough; 3) setting the day.
Of course we must advertise the event on the magazine, socials, and everything is useful to spread the join-day (I think we should also consider to send a mail also to the local community [1]).
Any suggestion is welcome.
Thank you.
Gabri
[1] http://fedoracommunity.org/
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On Nov 6, 2015 13:01, "Justin W. Flory" jflory7@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all,
Meant to send this out last night but I ended up forgetting. Anyways,
Gabri poked in IRC that now that F23 is out, we can begin moving forward with executing one of these first Join-Days to promote activity in the different subgroups across Fedora.
We mentioned somewhere that Marketing might be the best place to run the
first Join-Day as that was an area that at least a few of us are directly involved in and it might make it easier for us to try doing the first one. Later on, we could begin reaching out to other parts of the project, e.g. engineering / development groups, etc.
With that in mind, how do we want to go about poaching this first
Join-Day? Assuming Marketing is the subgroup that we want to do first, would we want to make it a very general marketing Join-Day, or more specific, e.g. Fedora Magazine Join-Day?
Once we can decide what subgroup / parts of a subgroup we want to target
first, I think we can begin making steps toward planning the details for how it will work.
-- Cheers,
Justin W. Flory jflory7@gmail.com
Does marketing have well established workflows for people to learn about? I know the structure is in place for magazine contributions and editorial review, but I don't feel like a clinic on how to log into WordPress and write a draft post qualifies as a thorough introduction to the Fedora Marketing Team.
In contrast, QA has a lot going on, where we can teach about package and release lifecycle and the role of quality testing in that process. It may be a better fit.
--Pete
On 11/06/2015 02:44 PM, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
One of the first tasks for our soon-to-be Outreachy Intern will be establishing onboarding badge series' for each team and subproject! As an example of this, we have the "bootstrapped" series, which is in progress, but includes a number of common badges that help to introduce new contributors generally to a number of aspects of the project. (See: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/409)
Even if we don't have a badge series identified yet, having the steps listed to join a particular group will help with both creating the series, and engaging with new contributors in an event like a Join-Day.
That's my $.02, --RemyD.
That would definitely be awesome to have a sort of "Bootstrapped" series for the different subgroups - it would also provide the people participating a direct reward (i.e. a badge) for completing a task to being onboarded.
So in the meanwhile, we can begin working towards making the steps more clear and/or visible for a given subgroup that we want to work more closely with.
On 11/06/2015 02:47 PM, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
I have to do some enhancements on the marketing tasks (intended as general part of it) and in the wiki, so is not the best point from where to start. I think magazine, within the mktg workflow, currently is the most effective section where people can get involved. Its workflow is very clear, and also is the entry point of the project.
Magazine is attracting many users and has great visibility as well.
Of course Justin, Paul and Ryan are fully qualified for reach all the request and they are able to explain the process.
On 11/06/2015 02:53 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
Does marketing have well established workflows for people to learn about? I know the structure is in place for magazine contributions and editorial review, but I don't feel like a clinic on how to log into WordPress and write a draft post qualifies as a thorough introduction to the Fedora Marketing Team.
In contrast, QA has a lot going on, where we can teach about package and release lifecycle and the role of quality testing in that process. It may be a better fit.
Hmmm. So our options seem to either be the Magazine or the QA team? My thoughts on this is if we were to do a Magazine Join-Day, we might even try to have a few "easy" pitches that people could try to do, but otherwise, I could see where it might be similar to what Pete described. Of course, I guess it also depends on where peoples' interests lie.
For the QA team, I'm not that familiar with the process but I could become familiar with the process and help in the proceedings.
On 11/06/2015 02:47 PM, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
I think the next steps are:
- create a workflow specifically for this day.
- choose the tool we'd like to use (IRC? Hangouts?) IMO IRC is still
the best, the fedora-join channel is quiet enough; 3) setting the day.
Of course we must advertise the event on the magazine, socials, and everything is useful to spread the join-day (I think we should also consider to send a mail also to the local community [1]).
I think this is pretty universal for any group we end up going with. Seems like a good outline to me.
-- Cheers, Justin W. Flory jflory7@gmail.com
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