Re: Getting PyKCS11 into Fedora

[Ankur Sinha]

(Fedora join ML CCed)

On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 23:09 +1000, Sam Fowler wrote:
> Hi,

Hi Sam,

Welcome to Fedora!
> I am interested in getting the python package, PyKCS11, added into
> the
> Fedora repos (specifically a python3 version).
>
> https://github.com/LudovicRousseau/PyKCS11
>
> I have read the guide on becoming a fedora package maintainer but am
> I
> unsure if I am suited to the role. I was wondering if there's
> precedent
> for asking existing fedora package maintainers to become maintainers
> for
> new packages.

There's a wishlist here where one can add interesting packages, and if
a maintainer is interested, they'd pick it up:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist?rd=PackageMainta...

In general, though, people maintain packages that they use themselves.
That way, they have a vested interest in keeping their packages up to
date, and functional in general.
> The package in question, PyKCS11, has equivalent packages already
> available via pip and in Ubuntu and Debian. I was hoping that given
> the
> relative maturity of the upstream package, it would be a straight
> forward process to get the package added into fedora.

Yea - python software is usually relatively simpler to package up.
> The reason for my hesitation in becoming a fedora package maintainer
> is
> that I am a junior developer with no history of open source
> contribution
> (yet!).

Haha - well here's the opportunity ;)
> I am not affiliated with the upstream maintainer, Ludovic
> Rousseau, but I have contacted him to see if he would be able to add
> the
> package into Fedora. He declined but said that he did not have a
> problem
> with someone else doing it.

Yea - it's hard for upstreams to maintain the source code and also keep
packages in various downstream distributions up to date. This is where
package maintainers come in:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects
> I am happy to support the initial process of submitting this new
> package. It is relatively trivial to build and install rpms from the
> github repo (python setup.py bdist_rpm), and I have been testing the
> use
> of these rpms myself for sometime now.
>
> Any advice at all would be helpful.

As you've read on the wiki I'm sure, the initial packaging and review
is only one part of the maintenance process. It's keeping the software
up to date, fixing bugs or reporting them upstream, and making sure the
software is functional in general that's the real task - i.e., the long
term maintenance.

I would suggest just going ahead and submitting the package for review
yourself. This is another helpful wiki page that you must've come
across:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group

Getting PyKCS11 into Fedora

[Sam Fowler]

Thanks for all the info, very helpful.

I just tried creating an account with the Fedora Account System (FAS)
but was prompted with a message saying my email address has been
blacklisted. Is there way I can workaround this? I'd ideally like to use
my regular email address ([e-mail]).

Thanks again,
Sam

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017, at 21:07, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> (Fedora join ML CCed)
>
> On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 23:09 +1000, Sam Fowler wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Hi Sam,
>
> Welcome to Fedora!
> > I am interested in getting the python package, PyKCS11, added into
> > the
> > Fedora repos (specifically a python3 version).
> >
> > https://github.com/LudovicRousseau/PyKCS11
> >
> > I have read the guide on becoming a fedora package maintainer but am
> > I
> > unsure if I am suited to the role. I was wondering if there's
> > precedent
> > for asking existing fedora package maintainers to become maintainers
> > for
> > new packages.
>
> There's a wishlist here where one can add interesting packages, and if
> a maintainer is interested, they'd pick it up:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist?rd=PackageMainta...
>
> In general, though, people maintain packages that they use themselves.
> That way, they have a vested interest in keeping their packages up to
> date, and functional in general.
> > The package in question, PyKCS11, has equivalent packages already
> > available via pip and in Ubuntu and Debian. I was hoping that given
> > the
> > relative maturity of the upstream package, it would be a straight
> > forward process to get the package added into fedora.
>
> Yea - python software is usually relatively simpler to package up.
> > The reason for my hesitation in becoming a fedora package maintainer
> > is
> > that I am a junior developer with no history of open source
> > contribution
> > (yet!).
>
> Haha - well here's the opportunity ;)
> > I am not affiliated with the upstream maintainer, Ludovic
> > Rousseau, but I have contacted him to see if he would be able to add
> > the
> > package into Fedora. He declined but said that he did not have a
> > problem
> > with someone else doing it.
>
> Yea - it's hard for upstreams to maintain the source code and also keep
> packages in various downstream distributions up to date. This is where
> package maintainers come in:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects
> > I am happy to support the initial process of submitting this new
> > package. It is relatively trivial to build and install rpms from the
> > github repo (python setup.py bdist_rpm), and I have been testing the
> > use
> > of these rpms myself for sometime now.
> >
> > Any advice at all would be helpful.
>
> As you've read on the wiki I'm sure, the initial packaging and review
> is only one part of the maintenance process. It's keeping the software
> up to date, fixing bugs or reporting them upstream, and making sure the
> software is functional in general that's the real task - i.e., the long
> term maintenance.
>
> I would suggest just going ahead and submitting the package for review
> yourself. This is another helpful wiki page that you must've come
> across:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group
>
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Regards,
> Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
> Email had 1 attachment:
> signature.asc
> 1k (application/pgp-signature)

Getting PyKCS11 into Fedora

[Justin W. Flory]

Hey Sam,

This seems odd to me… you can follow up with the Fedora Infrastructure
team to help get an answer to this. You can either contact them on
freenode IRC in #fedora-admin…

https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=fedora-admin

…or you can post on their mailing list…

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]...

If you don't get a quick answer in #fedora-admin, try the mailing list
so that way you won't have to be online to get a reply back. Let us know
if you're able to get it figured out.

On 08/01/2017 06:53 PM, Sam Fowler wrote:
> Thanks for all the info, very helpful.
>
> I just tried creating an account with the Fedora Account System (FAS)
> but was prompted with a message saying my email address has been
> blacklisted. Is there way I can workaround this? I'd ideally like to use
> my regular email address ([e-mail]).
>
> Thanks again,
> Sam
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017, at 21:07, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > (Fedora join ML CCed)
> >
> > On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 23:09 +1000, Sam Fowler wrote:
> > > Hi,
> >
> > Hi Sam,
> >
> > Welcome to Fedora!
> > > I am interested in getting the python package, PyKCS11, added into
> > > the
> > > Fedora repos (specifically a python3 version).
> > >
> > > https://github.com/LudovicRousseau/PyKCS11
> > >
> > > I have read the guide on becoming a fedora package maintainer but am
> > > I
> > > unsure if I am suited to the role. I was wondering if there's
> > > precedent
> > > for asking existing fedora package maintainers to become maintainers
> > > for
> > > new packages.
> >
> > There's a wishlist here where one can add interesting packages, and if
> > a maintainer is interested, they'd pick it up:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist?rd=PackageMainta...
> >
> > In general, though, people maintain packages that they use themselves.
> > That way, they have a vested interest in keeping their packages up to
> > date, and functional in general.
> > > The package in question, PyKCS11, has equivalent packages already
> > > available via pip and in Ubuntu and Debian. I was hoping that given
> > > the
> > > relative maturity of the upstream package, it would be a straight
> > > forward process to get the package added into fedora.
> >
> > Yea - python software is usually relatively simpler to package up.
> > > The reason for my hesitation in becoming a fedora package maintainer
> > > is
> > > that I am a junior developer with no history of open source
> > > contribution
> > > (yet!).
> >
> > Haha - well here's the opportunity ;)
> > > I am not affiliated with the upstream maintainer, Ludovic
> > > Rousseau, but I have contacted him to see if he would be able to add
> > > the
> > > package into Fedora. He declined but said that he did not have a
> > > problem
> > > with someone else doing it.
> >
> > Yea - it's hard for upstreams to maintain the source code and also keep
> > packages in various downstream distributions up to date. This is where
> > package maintainers come in:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects
> > > I am happy to support the initial process of submitting this new
> > > package. It is relatively trivial to build and install rpms from the
> > > github repo (python setup.py bdist_rpm), and I have been testing the
> > > use
> > > of these rpms myself for sometime now.
> > >
> > > Any advice at all would be helpful.
> >
> > As you've read on the wiki I'm sure, the initial packaging and review
> > is only one part of the maintenance process. It's keeping the software
> > up to date, fixing bugs or reporting them upstream, and making sure the
> > software is functional in general that's the real task - i.e., the long
> > term maintenance.
> >
> > I would suggest just going ahead and submitting the package for review
> > yourself. This is another helpful wiki page that you must've come
> > across:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group
> >
> > -- 
> > Thanks,
> > Regards,
> > Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
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Getting PyKCS11 into Fedora

[Sam Fowler]

Hi,

I've been trying to follow a suggestion to add a package to the Fedora
package wishlist. I've created an FAS account and signed the CLA but
when I attempt to log into fedoraproject.org I receive an error saying
that I need to belong to an additional group.

My intent was only to add my desired package to the wishlist so I'm not
really sure which group would be suitable for me to join, none in the
group list seem like obvious choices.

Any suggestions as to which group I should join or if there's another
way to add a package to the wishlist without joining a group?

Any help appreciated,

Thanks,
Sam

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017, at 21:07, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> (Fedora join ML CCed)
>
> On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 23:09 +1000, Sam Fowler wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Hi Sam,
>
> Welcome to Fedora!
> > I am interested in getting the python package, PyKCS11, added into
> > the
> > Fedora repos (specifically a python3 version).
> >
> > https://github.com/LudovicRousseau/PyKCS11
> >
> > I have read the guide on becoming a fedora package maintainer but am
> > I
> > unsure if I am suited to the role. I was wondering if there's
> > precedent
> > for asking existing fedora package maintainers to become maintainers
> > for
> > new packages.
>
> There's a wishlist here where one can add interesting packages, and if
> a maintainer is interested, they'd pick it up:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist?rd=PackageMainta...
>
> In general, though, people maintain packages that they use themselves.
> That way, they have a vested interest in keeping their packages up to
> date, and functional in general.
> > The package in question, PyKCS11, has equivalent packages already
> > available via pip and in Ubuntu and Debian. I was hoping that given
> > the
> > relative maturity of the upstream package, it would be a straight
> > forward process to get the package added into fedora.
>
> Yea - python software is usually relatively simpler to package up.
> > The reason for my hesitation in becoming a fedora package maintainer
> > is
> > that I am a junior developer with no history of open source
> > contribution
> > (yet!).
>
> Haha - well here's the opportunity ;)
> > I am not affiliated with the upstream maintainer, Ludovic
> > Rousseau, but I have contacted him to see if he would be able to add
> > the
> > package into Fedora. He declined but said that he did not have a
> > problem
> > with someone else doing it.
>
> Yea - it's hard for upstreams to maintain the source code and also keep
> packages in various downstream distributions up to date. This is where
> package maintainers come in:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects
> > I am happy to support the initial process of submitting this new
> > package. It is relatively trivial to build and install rpms from the
> > github repo (python setup.py bdist_rpm), and I have been testing the
> > use
> > of these rpms myself for sometime now.
> >
> > Any advice at all would be helpful.
>
> As you've read on the wiki I'm sure, the initial packaging and review
> is only one part of the maintenance process. It's keeping the software
> up to date, fixing bugs or reporting them upstream, and making sure the
> software is functional in general that's the real task - i.e., the long
> term maintenance.
>
> I would suggest just going ahead and submitting the package for review
> yourself. This is another helpful wiki page that you must've come
> across:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group
>
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Regards,
> Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
> Email had 1 attachment:
> signature.asc
> 1k (application/pgp-signature)

Getting PyKCS11 into Fedora

[Ankur Sinha]

On Sun, 2017-08-13 at 13:54 +1000, Sam Fowler wrote:
> Hi,

Hi Sam,
> I've been trying to follow a suggestion to add a package to the
> Fedora
> package wishlist. I've created an FAS account and signed the CLA but
> when I attempt to log into fedoraproject.org I receive an error
> saying
> that I need to belong to an additional group.
>
> My intent was only to add my desired package to the wishlist so I'm
> not
> really sure which group would be suitable for me to join, none in the
> group list seem like obvious choices.
>
> Any suggestions as to which group I should join or if there's another
> way to add a package to the wishlist without joining a group?
>
> Any help appreciated,

This is an unfortunate repercussion of new policies that were put in
place to combat spam on the wiki. The infrastructure team increased the
number of FAS groups one must be part of to to gain wiki editing
permissions - one only needed to have an FAS account before.

One of us can add the package to the wishlist for you if that's OK?

Getting PyKCS11 into Fedora

[Sam Fowler]

Hi Ankur,

That would be helpful however there are several packages I would be
interested in seeing added to the Fedora packages and I wouldn't want to
have to go through this process every single time.

If it appeared that no one was interested in becoming maintainers for
the packages I suggest I would consider doing it myself so it might be
beneficial to sort out account issues now.

In any case here are the packages I would like added to the wishlist:

High priority:
python3-pykcs11: https://github.com/LudovicRousseau/PyKCS11

Lower priority:
python3-txpostgres:  https://pypi.python.org/pypi/txpostgres
pam_python3:  https://sourceforge.net/projects/pam-python/files/

I'd also like to see python3-twisted increase it's version to 16.6 but
don't think this belongs on the wishlist. It probably makes sense for
the equivalent python2 packages be added/upgraded as well though
personally, I am not concerned by it.

I'd prefer to be the one to add them to the wishlist myself, though I'll
leave the decision up to you.

Thanks for all your help so far,
Sam

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017, at 19:01, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-08-13 at 13:54 +1000, Sam Fowler wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Hi Sam,
> > I've been trying to follow a suggestion to add a package to the
> > Fedora
> > package wishlist. I've created an FAS account and signed the CLA but
> > when I attempt to log into fedoraproject.org I receive an error
> > saying
> > that I need to belong to an additional group.
> >
> > My intent was only to add my desired package to the wishlist so I'm
> > not
> > really sure which group would be suitable for me to join, none in the
> > group list seem like obvious choices.
> >
> > Any suggestions as to which group I should join or if there's another
> > way to add a package to the wishlist without joining a group?
> >
> > Any help appreciated,
>
> This is an unfortunate repercussion of new policies that were put in
> place to combat spam on the wiki. The infrastructure team increased the
> number of FAS groups one must be part of to to gain wiki editing
> permissions - one only needed to have an FAS account before.
>
> One of us can add the package to the wishlist for you if that's OK?
>
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Regards,
> Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
> Email had 1 attachment:
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