Ansible linux-system-roles on fedora-join

[Michael DePaulo]

Hi everyone,

I'm at AnsibleFest right now, and contributors to both Fedora and Ansible are
discussing linux-system-roles:
https://linux-system-roles.github.io
It is upstream to to the rhel-system-roles package in RHEL/CentOS & it officially
supports Fedora, although it does not seem to be provided as a package in Fedora. (I will
be inquiring about this tomorrow.)

The few fellow Fedora contributors I've talked to (including mattdm) like the idea of
listing linux-system-roles on fedora-join after a brief high-level discussion. It could be
advertised towards anyone who knows how to write Ansible playbooks/roles (no module
writing in Python); a very broad skill set nowadays.

What do people here think?

-Mike

[Justin W. Flory]

On 10/4/18 12:51 AM, Michael DePaulo wrote:
>  The few fellow Fedora contributors I've talked to (including
> mattdm) like the idea of listing linux-system-roles on fedora-join after a brief
> high-level discussion. It could be advertised towards anyone who knows how to write
> Ansible playbooks/roles (no module writing in Python); a very broad skill set nowadays.
>  
>  What do people here think?
>   
Hi Mike! Thanks for sharing this here. I am learning about the
linux-system-roles for the first time too now. :)

Could you elaborate on what you mean on listing the roles / project on
fedora-join? I think it's a cool resource for beginners working with
Ansible (perhaps relevant for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices), but I
was curious if you had an idea of what this might look like for Fedora Join.

-- 
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com

[Ankur Sinha]

On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 09:06:10 -0400, Justin W. Flory wrote:
>  On 10/4/18 12:51 AM, Michael DePaulo wrote:
>  > The few fellow Fedora contributors I've talked to (including mattdm)
>  > like the idea of listing linux-system-roles on fedora-join after a
>  > brief high-level discussion. It could be advertised towards anyone
>  > who knows how to write Ansible playbooks/roles (no module writing in
>  > Python); a very broad skill set nowadays.
>  > 
>  > What do people here think?
>  > 
>  
>  Hi Mike! Thanks for sharing this here. I am learning about the
>  linux-system-roles for the first time too now. :)
>  
>  Could you elaborate on what you mean on listing the roles / project on
>  fedora-join? I think it's a cool resource for beginners working with
>  Ansible (perhaps relevant for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices), but I
>  was curious if you had an idea of what this might look like for Fedora Join. 

Sorry, I hadn't had the time to reply yet. I was wondering about this
too.  Did you perhaps mean adding it to this page as another role?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join


-- 
Thanks,
Regards,

Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
Time zone: Europe/London

[Mike DePaulo]

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 8:23 AM Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 09:06:10 -0400, Justin W. Flory wrote:
>  > On 10/4/18 12:51 AM, Michael DePaulo wrote:
>  > > The few fellow Fedora contributors I've talked to (including mattdm)
>  > > like the idea of listing linux-system-roles on fedora-join after a
>  > > brief high-level discussion. It could be advertised towards anyone
>  > > who knows how to write Ansible playbooks/roles (no module writing in
>  > > Python); a very broad skill set nowadays.
>  > >
>  > > What do people here think?
>  > >
>  >
>  > Hi Mike! Thanks for sharing this here. I am learning about the
>  > linux-system-roles for the first time too now. :)
>  >
>  > Could you elaborate on what you mean on listing the roles / project on
>  > fedora-join? I think it's a cool resource for beginners working with
>  > Ansible (perhaps relevant for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices), but I
>  > was curious if you had an idea of what this might look like for Fedora
>  Join.
>
>  
Although useful for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices also, I am under the
impression that linux-system-roles is supposed to be part of Fedora itself,
presumably Server edition. I will ask about that in a few hours.


>  Sorry, I hadn't had the time to reply yet. I was wondering about this
>  too.  Did you perhaps mean adding it to this page as another role?
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join 

Yes, I meant listing as a role there, and listing it as a role on
https://whatcanidoforfedora.org

Thanks,
-Mike

[Mike DePaulo]

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 12:48 PM Mike DePaulo <mikedep333(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 8:23 AM Ankur Sinha
> <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 09:06:10 -0400, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> > > On 10/4/18 12:51 AM, Michael DePaulo wrote:
> > > > The few fellow Fedora contributors I've talked to (including mattdm)
> > > > like the idea of listing linux-system-roles on fedora-join after a
> > > > brief high-level discussion. It could be advertised towards anyone
> > > > who knows how to write Ansible playbooks/roles (no module writing in
> > > > Python); a very broad skill set nowadays.
> > > >
> > > > What do people here think?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Mike! Thanks for sharing this here. I am learning about the
> > > linux-system-roles for the first time too now. :)
> > >
> > > Could you elaborate on what you mean on listing the roles / project on
> > > fedora-join? I think it's a cool resource for beginners working with
> > > Ansible (perhaps relevant for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices), but I
> > > was curious if you had an idea of what this might look like for Fedora
> > Join.
> >
> >
>  Although useful for Fedora Infrastructure Apprentices also, I am under the
>  impression that linux-system-roles is supposed to be part of Fedora itself,
>  presumably Server edition. I will ask about that in a few hours.
>  
Pavel Cahyna and I are working on getting it packaged in Fedora. It would
not be installed by default in Fedora Server, but it could be a talking
point (if it arrives for F29.)


> >
> > Sorry, I hadn't had the time to reply yet. I was wondering about this
> > too.  Did you perhaps mean adding it to this page as another role?
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join
>
>
>  Yes, I meant listing as a role there, and listing it as a role on
>  https://whatcanidoforfedora.org
>  
After some discussion, we will hold off on listing it here even once it is
packaged.

The reason being that linux-system-roles is currently kind of
cathedral-like. *At this time*, and *based on my understanding*, the
project only wants improvements to the existing roles.  We don't want to
promote linux-system-roles on fedora-join, and then existing Ansible roles
authors (with their roles on Ansible Galaxy) ask for their roles to be
included, and the project tells them "no". This should change in the future
though.


>  Thanks,
>  -Mike
>