Fwd: Pending Unapproved Translator Request

[Miguel Santana]

Hello, Fedora Team.

I signed up to be a Fedora portuguese translator on the 10th of July
but still didn't got anyone to sponsor my request to join the cvsl10n
group. Without this, I can't proceed to write the "Introduce Yourself"
part in the Wiki.

Should I wait more time or this should be a little more quicker?

Thanks in advance,
Miguel (miguelsantana)

[Vendaval]

Hi Miguel,

the steps from the wiki[1]:
🔗
<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#How_to_become_a_F...
How to become a Fedora translator

L10n is not just about translation, but if you want to contribute on L10n,
then start from a translator is a good choice. You need to follow the steps
below to complete:

   1. Create a Fedora account
  
<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#Create_a_Fedora_a...
   2. Subscribe to the mailing lists
  
<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#Subscribe_to_the_...
   3. Introduce Yourself
   <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#Introduce_Yoursel...
   (It's a good idea to do it on all mailing list you have subscribed)
   4. Login to Zanata with your FAS account
  
<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#Login_to_Zanata_w...
   5. Find your language team and join in
  
<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#Find_your_languag...

Your self-introduction is important. It raises your chances to be approved
for write access. You may also want to create a Bugzilla account
<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Guide#How-to_create_a_Bugzilla_accoun...
to work on bugs reported by users.
so, you can send a mail with your self-introduction to the  mailing list
without sponsorship

Regards.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata

El mar., 16 jul. 2019 a las 4:23, Miguel Santana (<mikeytsantana(a)gmail.com>)
escribió:

>  Hello, Fedora Team.
>
>  I signed up to be a Fedora portuguese translator on the 10th of July
>  but still didn't got anyone to sponsor my request to join the cvsl10n
>  group. Without this, I can't proceed to write the "Introduce Yourself"
>  part in the Wiki.
>
>  Should I wait more time or this should be a little more quicker?
>
>  Thanks in advance,
>  Miguel (miguelsantana)
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"No estoy de acuerdo con lo que dices, pero daría mi vida por defender tu
derecho a decirlo"
^^Voltaire^^

[Miguel Santana]

Hi Vendaval and Fedora Team.

Thank you so much for your reply. I followed your guide as strictly as
possible, but as you said, writing a Wiki increases the possibilities of
getting sponsored. But when I log in to the Wiki platform I cannot proceed
as it says that I am not in a non CLA group, and I'm stuck there waiting
for someone to sponsor me, so I can get access to writing a Wiki page on
Fedora.

It seems kinda odd. If i'm doing anything wrong please let me know. I've
been trying to figure it out and I can't. It would be an honour to help
Fedora grow as an open source project and becoming available in different
languages.

Thanks,
Miguel

Vendaval <hotgalan(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu no dia terça, 16/07/2019 à(s) 15:27:

>  Hi Miguel,
>
>  the steps from the wiki[1]:
>  🔗
>  <
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#How_to_become_a_F...
>  >
>  How to become a Fedora translator
>
>  L10n is not just about translation, but if you want to contribute on L10n,
>  then start from a translator is a good choice. You need to follow the steps
>  below to complete:
>
>     1. Create a Fedora account
>     <
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#Create_a_Fedora_a...
>  >
>     2. Subscribe to the mailing lists
>     <
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#Subscribe_to_the_...
>  >
>     3. Introduce Yourself
>     <
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#Introduce_Yourself
>  >
>     (It's a good idea to do it on all mailing list you have subscribed)
>     4. Login to Zanata with your FAS account
>     <
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#Login_to_Zanata_w...
>  >
>     5. Find your language team and join in
>     <
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata#Find_your_languag...
>  >
>
>  Your self-introduction is important. It raises your chances to be approved
>  for write access. You may also want to create a Bugzilla account
>  <
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Guide#How-to_create_a_Bugzilla_account
>  >
>  to work on bugs reported by users.
>  so, you can send a mail with your self-introduction to the  mailing list
>  without sponsorship
>
>  Regards.
>
>  [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Translate_on_Zanata
>
>  El mar., 16 jul. 2019 a las 4:23, Miguel Santana (<mikeytsantana(a)gmail.com
>  >)
>  escribió:
>
>  > Hello, Fedora Team.
>  >
>  > I signed up to be a Fedora portuguese translator on the 10th of July
>  > but still didn't got anyone to sponsor my request to join the cvsl10n
>  > group. Without this, I can't proceed to write the "Introduce
> Yourself"
>  > part in the Wiki.
>  >
>  > Should I wait more time or this should be a little more quicker?
>  >
>  > Thanks in advance,
>  > Miguel (miguelsantana)
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > fedora-join mailing list -- fedora-join(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  > To unsubscribe send an email to
>  fedora-join-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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>  > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
>  > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
>  > List Archives:
>  >
>  https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail]...
>  >
>
>
>  --
>  "No estoy de acuerdo con lo que dices, pero daría mi vida por defender tu
>  derecho a decirlo"
>  ^^Voltaire^^
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[Alessio]

On Tue, 2019-07-16 at 17:44 +0100, Miguel Santana wrote:
>  getting sponsored. But when I log in to the Wiki platform I cannot
>  proceed
>  as it says that I am not in a non CLA group, and I'm stuck there
>  waiting 
Yes it looks odd. Indeed if a prerequisite to be part of a group is
having a user page, but in order to be able to edit the wiki you must
be part at least of a group, it could sound pretty strange. But some
team processes were written when the wiki was editable by anyone. The
spam on the wiki then lead to such restriction, and some teams didn't
update their onboarding processes.
In short: if nobody sponsors you it is not due to the fact that you
don't have a wiki user page. You are not doing nothing wrong.
I've seen your same problem in some other translation teams. It seems
that here is a lack of active coordinators in some local groups,
leading to some delays.

However: don't give up!

Did you send your introduction message to the trans-pt mailing list? If
yes, send it again!
Did you subscribe to the international list "Fedora Translation Project
List <
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans%40lists.fedoraproject...
> "? If no, then also send your introduction there, talking about
> your 
sponsorship problem.

In the meanwhile you can also file an ticket to Infrastructure Team <
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues> asking to be
temporarily added to the "wikiedit" group, so you can start writing on
the wiki while waiting for the sponsorship in the translation group.

Thanks for your patience. And again: welcome to the community!
Ciao,
A.

[Ankur Sinha]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 07:24:25 +0200, Alessio wrote:
>  In the meanwhile you can also file an ticket to Infrastructure Team
> <
>  https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues> asking to be
>  temporarily added to the "wikiedit" group, so you can start writing on
>  the wiki while waiting for the sponsorship in the translation group. 
To add some context, this is a new requirement that was added to combat
spam on the wiki. Previously, CLA was sufficient to edit the wiki, but
we got so many spam accounts destroying the wiki that the infrastructure
had no choice but to add a step of manual vetting of accounts. That's
why it is now CLA + 1, since the extra group will require someone from
the Fedora community to vet the account and approve their group access.

The ticket on the infra team's tracker should sort this one issue out.

-- 
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" (He / Him / His) |
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
Time zone: Europe/London

[Miguel Santana]

Hello, Ankur and Alessio.

Thanks for help and sorry for my late response.

Going to try to ask the Infrastructure Team to liberate me those resources.

Thanks,
Miguel Santana