# yum install firewall-applet ... ==================================================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ==================================================================================================== Installing: firewall-applet noarch 0.3.14.1-1.fc23 rawhide 96 k Installing for dependencies: kde-filesystem x86_64 4-51.fc22 rawhide 53 k libqzeitgeist x86_64 0.8.0-13.fc23 rawhide 75 k phonon x86_64 4.8.3-4.fc23 rawhide 204 k phonon-backend-gstreamer x86_64 2:4.8.2-3.fc23 rawhide 147 k proj x86_64 4.9.1-2.fc23 rawhide 209 k python3-PyQt4 x86_64 4.11.4-1.fc23 rawhide 3.1 M python3-sip x86_64 4.16.8-1.fc23 rawhide 99 k qt-mobility-common x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 39 k qt-mobility-location x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 584 k qt-mobility-sensors x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 125 k qtwebkit x86_64 2.3.4-7.fc23 rawhide 10 M
Transaction Summary ==================================================================================================== Install 1 Package (+11 Dependent packages)
Total download size: 15 M Installed size: 56 M Is this ok [y/d/N]:
firewalld-0.3.14 https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/firewalld-devel/2015-June/000175.ht...
firewall-applet: - new version using Qt4 fixing several issues with the Gtk version
What were the actual issues with the GTK+ version?
On 06/15/2015 12:53 PM, poma wrote:
# yum install firewall-applet ... ==================================================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ==================================================================================================== Installing: firewall-applet noarch 0.3.14.1-1.fc23 rawhide 96 k Installing for dependencies: kde-filesystem x86_64 4-51.fc22 rawhide 53 k libqzeitgeist x86_64 0.8.0-13.fc23 rawhide 75 k phonon x86_64 4.8.3-4.fc23 rawhide 204 k phonon-backend-gstreamer x86_64 2:4.8.2-3.fc23 rawhide 147 k proj x86_64 4.9.1-2.fc23 rawhide 209 k python3-PyQt4 x86_64 4.11.4-1.fc23 rawhide 3.1 M python3-sip x86_64 4.16.8-1.fc23 rawhide 99 k qt-mobility-common x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 39 k qt-mobility-location x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 584 k qt-mobility-sensors x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 125 k qtwebkit x86_64 2.3.4-7.fc23 rawhide 10 M
Transaction Summary
Install 1 Package (+11 Dependent packages)
Total download size: 15 M Installed size: 56 M Is this ok [y/d/N]:
firewalld-0.3.14 https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/firewalld-devel/2015-June/000175.ht...
firewall-applet: - new version using Qt4 fixing several issues with the Gtk version
What were the actual issues with the GTK+ version?
There have been several issues with the gtk applet:
1) The gtk statusicon widget is deprecated in gtk3, will be removed soon. Going back to gtk2 is not a solution. 2) The status icon was sometimes invisible without an error, warning or any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3. 3) The status icon was sometimes not showing the icon without an error, warning or any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3 and gtk based desktop environments. 4) With KDE5 there is no support for old-style system tray icons anymore. Only Qt based applets and AppIndicator applets are supported, but AppIndicator has the same issues with the icons in Gnome3 and other gtk based desktops.
The Qt applet is working in KDE5, Gnome3, Xfce, Mate and others supporting system tray icons without any issues for me. Therefore this is the way to go.
Additionally while doing the recode in Qt I realized that the UI handling with Qt is much simpler and more predictable. I plan to port firewall-config also over to Qt for one of the next releases.
On 15 June 2015 at 12:12, Thomas Woerner twoerner@redhat.com wrote:
- The gtk statusicon widget is deprecated in gtk3, will be removed soon.
Why do you need a status icon at all? I can't imagine why I'd want my firewall sending messages to the desktop.
I plan to port firewall-config also over to Qt for one of the next releases.
That's completely your choice, but I'm sure it won't help the "do we need firewalld at all on the workstation" crowd at all given that the workstation is predominantly GTK-based.
Richard.
On 15.06.2015 13:12, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/15/2015 12:53 PM, poma wrote:
# yum install firewall-applet ... ==================================================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ==================================================================================================== Installing: firewall-applet noarch 0.3.14.1-1.fc23 rawhide 96 k Installing for dependencies: kde-filesystem x86_64 4-51.fc22 rawhide 53 k libqzeitgeist x86_64 0.8.0-13.fc23 rawhide 75 k phonon x86_64 4.8.3-4.fc23 rawhide 204 k phonon-backend-gstreamer x86_64 2:4.8.2-3.fc23 rawhide 147 k proj x86_64 4.9.1-2.fc23 rawhide 209 k python3-PyQt4 x86_64 4.11.4-1.fc23 rawhide 3.1 M python3-sip x86_64 4.16.8-1.fc23 rawhide 99 k qt-mobility-common x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 39 k qt-mobility-location x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 584 k qt-mobility-sensors x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 125 k qtwebkit x86_64 2.3.4-7.fc23 rawhide 10 M
Transaction Summary
Install 1 Package (+11 Dependent packages)
Total download size: 15 M Installed size: 56 M Is this ok [y/d/N]:
firewalld-0.3.14 https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/firewalld-devel/2015-June/000175.ht...
firewall-applet: - new version using Qt4 fixing several issues with the Gtk version
What were the actual issues with the GTK+ version?
There have been several issues with the gtk applet:
- The gtk statusicon widget is deprecated in gtk3, will be removed
soon. Going back to gtk2 is not a solution.
Xfce CORE is still GTK+ 2 based, therefore -stay- on GTK+ 2 -is- a solution. ;)
- The status icon was sometimes invisible without an error, warning or
any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
- The status icon was sometimes not showing the icon without an error,
warning or any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3 and gtk based desktop environments.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
- With KDE5 there is no support for old-style system tray icons
anymore. Only Qt based applets and AppIndicator applets are supported, but AppIndicator has the same issues with the icons in Gnome3 and other gtk based desktops.
That's right, the Application Indicators aka "AppIndicator" is the Canonical/Ubuntu/Unity technology.
The Qt applet is working in KDE5, Gnome3, Xfce, Mate and others supporting system tray icons without any issues for me. Therefore this is the way to go.
There are some issues, at least within the Xfce - "shrivel" systray icon. See "firewall-applet-Qt4-shrivel-systray-icon.png"
Same crap happens as with the vlc systray icon, again Qt4.
Additionally while doing the recode in Qt I realized that the UI handling with Qt is much simpler and more predictable. I plan to port firewall-config also over to Qt for one of the next releases.
Qt5 - ready steady?
"Qt 4.8.7 Released - Marks The End Of Qt4" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=qt-4.8.7-qt4-update-r...
https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/2625806 New firewall-applet version using Qt - Dropped shields up/down mechanism, was not optimal.
Please explain what was -not optimal-, related to "Shields" functionality.
$ rpm -q firewall-applet firewall-applet-0.3.14.1-1.fc23.noarch
$ rpm -ql firewall-applet | grep man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz
$ man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz ... GSETTINGS firewall-applet has additional settings to adapt the look and feel. The used backend depends on the distribution and can be either dconf or GConf. The path to the settings is org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet. You can use dconf-editor or gconf-editor to see and modify them. The following settings are supported: ... show-inactive ... blink ... blink-count
Is this manual a bit outdated? https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/5b47854 Dropped applet gschema remain: org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet.gschema.xml
BTW dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/show-inactive true dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/blink true dconf dump /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/ [/] show-inactive=true blink=true
What is equivalent to this, now in Qt4 form?
On 06/16/2015 01:28 PM, poma wrote:
On 15.06.2015 13:12, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/15/2015 12:53 PM, poma wrote:
# yum install firewall-applet ... ==================================================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ==================================================================================================== Installing: firewall-applet noarch 0.3.14.1-1.fc23 rawhide 96 k Installing for dependencies: kde-filesystem x86_64 4-51.fc22 rawhide 53 k libqzeitgeist x86_64 0.8.0-13.fc23 rawhide 75 k phonon x86_64 4.8.3-4.fc23 rawhide 204 k phonon-backend-gstreamer x86_64 2:4.8.2-3.fc23 rawhide 147 k proj x86_64 4.9.1-2.fc23 rawhide 209 k python3-PyQt4 x86_64 4.11.4-1.fc23 rawhide 3.1 M python3-sip x86_64 4.16.8-1.fc23 rawhide 99 k qt-mobility-common x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 39 k qt-mobility-location x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 584 k qt-mobility-sensors x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 125 k qtwebkit x86_64 2.3.4-7.fc23 rawhide 10 M
Transaction Summary
Install 1 Package (+11 Dependent packages)
Total download size: 15 M Installed size: 56 M Is this ok [y/d/N]:
firewalld-0.3.14 https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/firewalld-devel/2015-June/000175.ht...
firewall-applet: - new version using Qt4 fixing several issues with the Gtk version
What were the actual issues with the GTK+ version?
There have been several issues with the gtk applet:
- The gtk statusicon widget is deprecated in gtk3, will be removed
soon. Going back to gtk2 is not a solution.
Xfce CORE is still GTK+ 2 based, therefore -stay- on GTK+ 2 -is- a solution. ;)
The old applet was using gtk3 since 2012. There are issues with gtk2 and introspection. The use of pygtk was also not an option because of missing python3 support, it also pulled in gobject, which then conflicted with dbus.
- The status icon was sometimes invisible without an error, warning or
any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
Yes, there have not been issues in Xfce for also all the time. But there have been lots of issues with Gnome3. I had work arounds in the applet, but those were not working with all Gnome3 versions.
- The status icon was sometimes not showing the icon without an error,
warning or any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3 and gtk based desktop environments.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
See above.
- With KDE5 there is no support for old-style system tray icons
anymore. Only Qt based applets and AppIndicator applets are supported, but AppIndicator has the same issues with the icons in Gnome3 and other gtk based desktops.
That's right, the Application Indicators aka "AppIndicator" is the Canonical/Ubuntu/Unity technology.
The Qt applet is working in KDE5, Gnome3, Xfce, Mate and others supporting system tray icons without any issues for me. Therefore this is the way to go.
There are some issues, at least within the Xfce - "shrivel" systray icon. See "firewall-applet-Qt4-shrivel-systray-icon.png"
Same crap happens as with the vlc systray icon, again Qt4.
I do not see this in Xfce. Do you have special panel settings?
Additionally while doing the recode in Qt I realized that the UI handling with Qt is much simpler and more predictable. I plan to port firewall-config also over to Qt for one of the next releases.
Qt5 - ready steady?
There is also a Qt5 version, but it behaving strange in KDE5.
"Qt 4.8.7 Released - Marks The End Of Qt4" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=qt-4.8.7-qt4-update-r...
https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/2625806 New firewall-applet version using Qt
- Dropped shields up/down mechanism, was not optimal.
Please explain what was -not optimal-, related to "Shields" functionality.
Shields-up/-down was settings the default zone in firewalld. There is no runtime only setting for the default zone, therefore it was setting it for the whole system in a persistent way.
If there is a request, I will add it to the new applet.
$ rpm -q firewall-applet firewall-applet-0.3.14.1-1.fc23.noarch
$ rpm -ql firewall-applet | grep man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz
$ man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz ... GSETTINGS firewall-applet has additional settings to adapt the look and feel. The used backend depends on the distribution and can be either dconf or GConf. The path to the settings is org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet. You can use dconf-editor or gconf-editor to see and modify them. The following settings are supported: ... show-inactive ... blink ... blink-count
Is this manual a bit outdated?
Oh yes, I forgot to adapt the man page. Thanks for finding this one.
https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/5b47854 Dropped applet gschema remain: org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet.gschema.xml
BTW dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/show-inactive true dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/blink true dconf dump /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/ [/] show-inactive=true blink=true
What is equivalent to this, now in Qt4 form?
As far as I know there is no command line tool for this. You can create/change ~/.config/firewall-applet/firewalld.conf
The names here are bad, so I hanged them to ~/.config/firewall/applet.conf: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/f137568077af9a11823cdee816f80f...
On 16.06.2015 15:11, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/16/2015 01:28 PM, poma wrote:
On 15.06.2015 13:12, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/15/2015 12:53 PM, poma wrote:
# yum install firewall-applet ... ==================================================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ==================================================================================================== Installing: firewall-applet noarch 0.3.14.1-1.fc23 rawhide 96 k Installing for dependencies: kde-filesystem x86_64 4-51.fc22 rawhide 53 k libqzeitgeist x86_64 0.8.0-13.fc23 rawhide 75 k phonon x86_64 4.8.3-4.fc23 rawhide 204 k phonon-backend-gstreamer x86_64 2:4.8.2-3.fc23 rawhide 147 k proj x86_64 4.9.1-2.fc23 rawhide 209 k python3-PyQt4 x86_64 4.11.4-1.fc23 rawhide 3.1 M python3-sip x86_64 4.16.8-1.fc23 rawhide 99 k qt-mobility-common x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 39 k qt-mobility-location x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 584 k qt-mobility-sensors x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 125 k qtwebkit x86_64 2.3.4-7.fc23 rawhide 10 M
Transaction Summary
Install 1 Package (+11 Dependent packages)
Total download size: 15 M Installed size: 56 M Is this ok [y/d/N]:
firewalld-0.3.14 https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/firewalld-devel/2015-June/000175.ht...
firewall-applet: - new version using Qt4 fixing several issues with the Gtk version
What were the actual issues with the GTK+ version?
There have been several issues with the gtk applet:
- The gtk statusicon widget is deprecated in gtk3, will be removed
soon. Going back to gtk2 is not a solution.
Xfce CORE is still GTK+ 2 based, therefore -stay- on GTK+ 2 -is- a solution. ;)
The old applet was using gtk3 since 2012. There are issues with gtk2 and introspection. The use of pygtk was also not an option because of missing python3 support, it also pulled in gobject, which then conflicted with dbus.
- The status icon was sometimes invisible without an error, warning or
any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
Yes, there have not been issues in Xfce for also all the time. But there have been lots of issues with Gnome3. I had work arounds in the applet, but those were not working with all Gnome3 versions.
- The status icon was sometimes not showing the icon without an error,
warning or any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3 and gtk based desktop environments.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
See above.
- With KDE5 there is no support for old-style system tray icons
anymore. Only Qt based applets and AppIndicator applets are supported, but AppIndicator has the same issues with the icons in Gnome3 and other gtk based desktops.
That's right, the Application Indicators aka "AppIndicator" is the Canonical/Ubuntu/Unity technology.
The Qt applet is working in KDE5, Gnome3, Xfce, Mate and others supporting system tray icons without any issues for me. Therefore this is the way to go.
There are some issues, at least within the Xfce - "shrivel" systray icon. See "firewall-applet-Qt4-shrivel-systray-icon.png"
Same crap happens as with the vlc systray icon, again Qt4.
I do not see this in Xfce. Do you have special panel settings?
I've caricatured with the size, but the essence is the same: http://goo.gl/Gm4ffO Screencast/teeny-weeny.webm
Additionally while doing the recode in Qt I realized that the UI handling with Qt is much simpler and more predictable. I plan to port firewall-config also over to Qt for one of the next releases.
Qt5 - ready steady?
There is also a Qt5 version, but it behaving strange in KDE5.
Bug report? It's a matter of time when you'll do it anyway in Qt5, right?
"Qt 4.8.7 Released - Marks The End Of Qt4" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=qt-4.8.7-qt4-update-r...
https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/2625806 New firewall-applet version using Qt
- Dropped shields up/down mechanism, was not optimal.
Please explain what was -not optimal-, related to "Shields" functionality.
Shields-up/-down was settings the default zone in firewalld. There is no runtime only setting for the default zone, therefore it was setting it for the whole system in a persistent way.
If there is a request, I will add it to the new applet.
This should be studied.
$ rpm -q firewall-applet firewall-applet-0.3.14.1-1.fc23.noarch
$ rpm -ql firewall-applet | grep man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz
$ man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz ... GSETTINGS firewall-applet has additional settings to adapt the look and feel. The used backend depends on the distribution and can be either dconf or GConf. The path to the settings is org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet. You can use dconf-editor or gconf-editor to see and modify them. The following settings are supported: ... show-inactive ... blink ... blink-count
Is this manual a bit outdated?
Oh yes, I forgot to adapt the man page. Thanks for finding this one.
https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/5b47854 Dropped applet gschema remain: org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet.gschema.xml
BTW dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/show-inactive true dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/blink true dconf dump /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/ [/] show-inactive=true blink=true
What is equivalent to this, now in Qt4 form?
As far as I know there is no command line tool for this. You can create/change ~/.config/firewall-applet/firewalld.conf
The names here are bad, so I hanged them to ~/.config/firewall/applet.conf: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/f137568077af9a11823cdee816f80f...
$ cat ~/.config/firewall/applet.conf [General] notifications=false <-- works OK / also via the applet menu show-inactive=true <-- works -but- applet restart is needed to apply change - why? blink=true <-- broken - does not work at all blink-count=10 <-- brokne - see "blink"
Tested with: firewall-applet-0.3.14.2-1.fc22.noarch
Please implement also a system-wide config, e.g.
/etc/firewall/applet.conf [General] ...
Qt4 firewall-applet is brokne at certain degree within Xfce's Notification Area. Reverting to GTK+ firewall-applet. For more informative applet, "Applet icon blinks" and "Show applet also if firewalld is not running" are enabled per default.
Reloaded GTK+ firewall-applet - for the Xfce, you can find here: http://goo.gl/Gm4ffO SRPMS/Extra.tar Firewalld/firewalld-0.3.14.2-11.fc23.src.rpm
Reloaded GTK+ firewall-applet in action: http://goo.gl/Gm4ffO Screencast/sha-sha.webm
Thank you very much, Elvis has left the building.
On 06/17/2015 02:52 PM, poma wrote:
On 16.06.2015 15:11, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/16/2015 01:28 PM, poma wrote:
On 15.06.2015 13:12, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/15/2015 12:53 PM, poma wrote:
# yum install firewall-applet ... ==================================================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ==================================================================================================== Installing: firewall-applet noarch 0.3.14.1-1.fc23 rawhide 96 k Installing for dependencies: kde-filesystem x86_64 4-51.fc22 rawhide 53 k libqzeitgeist x86_64 0.8.0-13.fc23 rawhide 75 k phonon x86_64 4.8.3-4.fc23 rawhide 204 k phonon-backend-gstreamer x86_64 2:4.8.2-3.fc23 rawhide 147 k proj x86_64 4.9.1-2.fc23 rawhide 209 k python3-PyQt4 x86_64 4.11.4-1.fc23 rawhide 3.1 M python3-sip x86_64 4.16.8-1.fc23 rawhide 99 k qt-mobility-common x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 39 k qt-mobility-location x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 584 k qt-mobility-sensors x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 125 k qtwebkit x86_64 2.3.4-7.fc23 rawhide 10 M
Transaction Summary
Install 1 Package (+11 Dependent packages)
Total download size: 15 M Installed size: 56 M Is this ok [y/d/N]:
firewalld-0.3.14 https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/firewalld-devel/2015-June/000175.ht...
firewall-applet: - new version using Qt4 fixing several issues with the Gtk version
What were the actual issues with the GTK+ version?
There have been several issues with the gtk applet:
- The gtk statusicon widget is deprecated in gtk3, will be removed
soon. Going back to gtk2 is not a solution.
Xfce CORE is still GTK+ 2 based, therefore -stay- on GTK+ 2 -is- a solution. ;)
The old applet was using gtk3 since 2012. There are issues with gtk2 and introspection. The use of pygtk was also not an option because of missing python3 support, it also pulled in gobject, which then conflicted with dbus.
- The status icon was sometimes invisible without an error, warning or
any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
Yes, there have not been issues in Xfce for also all the time. But there have been lots of issues with Gnome3. I had work arounds in the applet, but those were not working with all Gnome3 versions.
- The status icon was sometimes not showing the icon without an error,
warning or any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3 and gtk based desktop environments.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
See above.
- With KDE5 there is no support for old-style system tray icons
anymore. Only Qt based applets and AppIndicator applets are supported, but AppIndicator has the same issues with the icons in Gnome3 and other gtk based desktops.
That's right, the Application Indicators aka "AppIndicator" is the Canonical/Ubuntu/Unity technology.
The Qt applet is working in KDE5, Gnome3, Xfce, Mate and others supporting system tray icons without any issues for me. Therefore this is the way to go.
There are some issues, at least within the Xfce - "shrivel" systray icon. See "firewall-applet-Qt4-shrivel-systray-icon.png"
Same crap happens as with the vlc systray icon, again Qt4.
I do not see this in Xfce. Do you have special panel settings?
I've caricatured with the size, but the essence is the same: http://goo.gl/Gm4ffO Screencast/teeny-weeny.webm
I do not have issues with the size of the Qt applet in Xfce. I even changed the size of the panel on the fly and it was adapting to the current tray size. But please remember that there is a max size of tray applets within Xfce. You can simply recognize that no applet gets bigger than about 32 pixels.
There might be an issue with some of the themes though. Not all themes in Xfce and gtk are behaving the same. Which theme are you using?
Additionally while doing the recode in Qt I realized that the UI handling with Qt is much simpler and more predictable. I plan to port firewall-config also over to Qt for one of the next releases.
Qt5 - ready steady?
There is also a Qt5 version, but it behaving strange in KDE5.
Bug report? It's a matter of time when you'll do it anyway in Qt5, right?
Yes, this should be a matter of time. For now it was important to get it running.
"Qt 4.8.7 Released - Marks The End Of Qt4" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=qt-4.8.7-qt4-update-r...
https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/2625806 New firewall-applet version using Qt
- Dropped shields up/down mechanism, was not optimal.
Please explain what was -not optimal-, related to "Shields" functionality.
Shields-up/-down was settings the default zone in firewalld. There is no runtime only setting for the default zone, therefore it was setting it for the whole system in a persistent way.
If there is a request, I will add it to the new applet.
This should be studied.
Here is the commit that adds this back: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/646d5ceeac51ccd3d473e6036ddf3f...
$ rpm -q firewall-applet firewall-applet-0.3.14.1-1.fc23.noarch
$ rpm -ql firewall-applet | grep man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz
$ man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz ... GSETTINGS firewall-applet has additional settings to adapt the look and feel. The used backend depends on the distribution and can be either dconf or GConf. The path to the settings is org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet. You can use dconf-editor or gconf-editor to see and modify them. The following settings are supported: ... show-inactive ... blink ... blink-count
Is this manual a bit outdated?
Oh yes, I forgot to adapt the man page. Thanks for finding this one.
https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/5b47854 Dropped applet gschema remain: org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet.gschema.xml
BTW dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/show-inactive true dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/blink true dconf dump /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/ [/] show-inactive=true blink=true
What is equivalent to this, now in Qt4 form?
As far as I know there is no command line tool for this. You can create/change ~/.config/firewall-applet/firewalld.conf
The names here are bad, so I hanged them to ~/.config/firewall/applet.conf: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/f137568077af9a11823cdee816f80f...
$ cat ~/.config/firewall/applet.conf [General] notifications=false <-- works OK / also via the applet menu show-inactive=true <-- works -but- applet restart is needed to apply change - why? blink=true <-- broken - does not work at all blink-count=10 <-- brokne - see "blink"
Tested with: firewall-applet-0.3.14.2-1.fc22.noarch
Here is the fix for the not working settings: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/ca9597c69a6f8270fd7e3452ae93fe...
Please implement also a system-wide config, e.g. /etc/firewall/applet.conf [General] ...
Here are commits that adds global settings and settings reload on change: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/2a701feaaf229fec011549677b464c...
There are also other changes and fixes for firewall-applet in the master branch since 0.3.14.2:
Fix Ok button sensitivity in dialogs: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/7c03a3477ddfa6da85361a09f9aac5...
Reworked about dialog to have a more common look: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/1c697e0a59bcd8d6d370813631fbb1...
Man page adaption: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/e1fe9241b777c111a4bbac0eee2493...
Added defaults for shields-up/down, fixed blink default: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/ff9e6705ddd010745bc2435a10ae00...
Regards, Thomas
On 29.06.2015 14:03, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/17/2015 02:52 PM, poma wrote:
On 16.06.2015 15:11, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/16/2015 01:28 PM, poma wrote:
On 15.06.2015 13:12, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/15/2015 12:53 PM, poma wrote:
# yum install firewall-applet ... ==================================================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ==================================================================================================== Installing: firewall-applet noarch 0.3.14.1-1.fc23 rawhide 96 k Installing for dependencies: kde-filesystem x86_64 4-51.fc22 rawhide 53 k libqzeitgeist x86_64 0.8.0-13.fc23 rawhide 75 k phonon x86_64 4.8.3-4.fc23 rawhide 204 k phonon-backend-gstreamer x86_64 2:4.8.2-3.fc23 rawhide 147 k proj x86_64 4.9.1-2.fc23 rawhide 209 k python3-PyQt4 x86_64 4.11.4-1.fc23 rawhide 3.1 M python3-sip x86_64 4.16.8-1.fc23 rawhide 99 k qt-mobility-common x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 39 k qt-mobility-location x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 584 k qt-mobility-sensors x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 125 k qtwebkit x86_64 2.3.4-7.fc23 rawhide 10 M
Transaction Summary
Install 1 Package (+11 Dependent packages)
Total download size: 15 M Installed size: 56 M Is this ok [y/d/N]:
firewalld-0.3.14 https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/firewalld-devel/2015-June/000175.ht...
firewall-applet: - new version using Qt4 fixing several issues with the Gtk version
What were the actual issues with the GTK+ version?
There have been several issues with the gtk applet:
- The gtk statusicon widget is deprecated in gtk3, will be removed
soon. Going back to gtk2 is not a solution.
Xfce CORE is still GTK+ 2 based, therefore -stay- on GTK+ 2 -is- a solution. ;)
The old applet was using gtk3 since 2012. There are issues with gtk2 and introspection. The use of pygtk was also not an option because of missing python3 support, it also pulled in gobject, which then conflicted with dbus.
- The status icon was sometimes invisible without an error, warning or
any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
Yes, there have not been issues in Xfce for also all the time. But there have been lots of issues with Gnome3. I had work arounds in the applet, but those were not working with all Gnome3 versions.
- The status icon was sometimes not showing the icon without an error,
warning or any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3 and gtk based desktop environments.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
See above.
- With KDE5 there is no support for old-style system tray icons
anymore. Only Qt based applets and AppIndicator applets are supported, but AppIndicator has the same issues with the icons in Gnome3 and other gtk based desktops.
That's right, the Application Indicators aka "AppIndicator" is the Canonical/Ubuntu/Unity technology.
The Qt applet is working in KDE5, Gnome3, Xfce, Mate and others supporting system tray icons without any issues for me. Therefore this is the way to go.
There are some issues, at least within the Xfce - "shrivel" systray icon. See "firewall-applet-Qt4-shrivel-systray-icon.png"
Same crap happens as with the vlc systray icon, again Qt4.
I do not see this in Xfce. Do you have special panel settings?
I've caricatured with the size, but the essence is the same: http://goo.gl/Gm4ffO Screencast/teeny-weeny.webm
I do not have issues with the size of the Qt applet in Xfce. I even changed the size of the panel on the fly and it was adapting to the current tray size. But please remember that there is a max size of tray applets within Xfce. You can simply recognize that no applet gets bigger than about 32 pixels.
There might be an issue with some of the themes though. Not all themes in Xfce and gtk are behaving the same. Which theme are you using?
Additionally while doing the recode in Qt I realized that the UI handling with Qt is much simpler and more predictable. I plan to port firewall-config also over to Qt for one of the next releases.
Qt5 - ready steady?
There is also a Qt5 version, but it behaving strange in KDE5.
Bug report? It's a matter of time when you'll do it anyway in Qt5, right?
Yes, this should be a matter of time. For now it was important to get it running.
"Qt 4.8.7 Released - Marks The End Of Qt4" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=qt-4.8.7-qt4-update-r...
https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/2625806 New firewall-applet version using Qt
- Dropped shields up/down mechanism, was not optimal.
Please explain what was -not optimal-, related to "Shields" functionality.
Shields-up/-down was settings the default zone in firewalld. There is no runtime only setting for the default zone, therefore it was setting it for the whole system in a persistent way.
If there is a request, I will add it to the new applet.
This should be studied.
Here is the commit that adds this back: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/646d5ceeac51ccd3d473e6036ddf3f...
$ rpm -q firewall-applet firewall-applet-0.3.14.1-1.fc23.noarch
$ rpm -ql firewall-applet | grep man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz
$ man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz ... GSETTINGS firewall-applet has additional settings to adapt the look and feel. The used backend depends on the distribution and can be either dconf or GConf. The path to the settings is org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet. You can use dconf-editor or gconf-editor to see and modify them. The following settings are supported: ... show-inactive ... blink ... blink-count
Is this manual a bit outdated?
Oh yes, I forgot to adapt the man page. Thanks for finding this one.
https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/5b47854 Dropped applet gschema remain: org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet.gschema.xml
BTW dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/show-inactive true dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/blink true dconf dump /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/ [/] show-inactive=true blink=true
What is equivalent to this, now in Qt4 form?
As far as I know there is no command line tool for this. You can create/change ~/.config/firewall-applet/firewalld.conf
The names here are bad, so I hanged them to ~/.config/firewall/applet.conf: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/f137568077af9a11823cdee816f80f...
$ cat ~/.config/firewall/applet.conf [General] notifications=false <-- works OK / also via the applet menu show-inactive=true <-- works -but- applet restart is needed to apply change - why? blink=true <-- broken - does not work at all blink-count=10 <-- brokne - see "blink"
Tested with: firewall-applet-0.3.14.2-1.fc22.noarch
Here is the fix for the not working settings: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/ca9597c69a6f8270fd7e3452ae93fe...
Please implement also a system-wide config, e.g. /etc/firewall/applet.conf [General] ...
Here are commits that adds global settings and settings reload on change: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/2a701feaaf229fec011549677b464c...
There are also other changes and fixes for firewall-applet in the master branch since 0.3.14.2:
Fix Ok button sensitivity in dialogs: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/7c03a3477ddfa6da85361a09f9aac5...
Reworked about dialog to have a more common look: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/1c697e0a59bcd8d6d370813631fbb1...
Man page adaption: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/e1fe9241b777c111a4bbac0eee2493...
Added defaults for shields-up/down, fixed blink default: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/ff9e6705ddd010745bc2435a10ae00...
Regards, Thomas
You can see for yourself how "well" it works: http://goo.gl/Gm4ffO Screencast/eeny-meeny.webm
firewalld / Qt firewall-applet - git 67e40c0 Jun 29, 2015
GTK+ firewall-applet is milk and honey compared to it.
On 07/01/2015 06:18 AM, poma wrote:
On 29.06.2015 14:03, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/17/2015 02:52 PM, poma wrote:
On 16.06.2015 15:11, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/16/2015 01:28 PM, poma wrote:
On 15.06.2015 13:12, Thomas Woerner wrote:
On 06/15/2015 12:53 PM, poma wrote: > # yum install firewall-applet > ... > ==================================================================================================== > Package Arch Version Repository Size > ==================================================================================================== > Installing: > firewall-applet noarch 0.3.14.1-1.fc23 rawhide 96 k > Installing for dependencies: > kde-filesystem x86_64 4-51.fc22 rawhide 53 k > libqzeitgeist x86_64 0.8.0-13.fc23 rawhide 75 k > phonon x86_64 4.8.3-4.fc23 rawhide 204 k > phonon-backend-gstreamer x86_64 2:4.8.2-3.fc23 rawhide 147 k > proj x86_64 4.9.1-2.fc23 rawhide 209 k > python3-PyQt4 x86_64 4.11.4-1.fc23 rawhide 3.1 M > python3-sip x86_64 4.16.8-1.fc23 rawhide 99 k > qt-mobility-common x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 39 k > qt-mobility-location x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 584 k > qt-mobility-sensors x86_64 1.2.2-0.20.20140317git169da60c.fc23 rawhide 125 k > qtwebkit x86_64 2.3.4-7.fc23 rawhide 10 M > > Transaction Summary > ==================================================================================================== > Install 1 Package (+11 Dependent packages) > > Total download size: 15 M > Installed size: 56 M > Is this ok [y/d/N]: > > > firewalld-0.3.14 > https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/firewalld-devel/2015-June/000175.ht... > > firewall-applet: > - new version using Qt4 fixing several issues with the Gtk version > > > What were the actual issues with the GTK+ version? > There have been several issues with the gtk applet:
- The gtk statusicon widget is deprecated in gtk3, will be removed
soon. Going back to gtk2 is not a solution.
Xfce CORE is still GTK+ 2 based, therefore -stay- on GTK+ 2 -is- a solution. ;)
The old applet was using gtk3 since 2012. There are issues with gtk2 and introspection. The use of pygtk was also not an option because of missing python3 support, it also pulled in gobject, which then conflicted with dbus.
- The status icon was sometimes invisible without an error, warning or
any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
Yes, there have not been issues in Xfce for also all the time. But there have been lots of issues with Gnome3. I had work arounds in the applet, but those were not working with all Gnome3 versions.
- The status icon was sometimes not showing the icon without an error,
warning or any way to find out why, especially in Gnome3 and gtk based desktop environments.
No problemos within the Xfce, works OK.
See above.
- With KDE5 there is no support for old-style system tray icons
anymore. Only Qt based applets and AppIndicator applets are supported, but AppIndicator has the same issues with the icons in Gnome3 and other gtk based desktops.
That's right, the Application Indicators aka "AppIndicator" is the Canonical/Ubuntu/Unity technology.
The Qt applet is working in KDE5, Gnome3, Xfce, Mate and others supporting system tray icons without any issues for me. Therefore this is the way to go.
There are some issues, at least within the Xfce - "shrivel" systray icon. See "firewall-applet-Qt4-shrivel-systray-icon.png"
Same crap happens as with the vlc systray icon, again Qt4.
I do not see this in Xfce. Do you have special panel settings?
I've caricatured with the size, but the essence is the same: http://goo.gl/Gm4ffO Screencast/teeny-weeny.webm
I do not have issues with the size of the Qt applet in Xfce. I even changed the size of the panel on the fly and it was adapting to the current tray size. But please remember that there is a max size of tray applets within Xfce. You can simply recognize that no applet gets bigger than about 32 pixels.
There might be an issue with some of the themes though. Not all themes in Xfce and gtk are behaving the same. Which theme are you using?
Additionally while doing the recode in Qt I realized that the UI handling with Qt is much simpler and more predictable. I plan to port firewall-config also over to Qt for one of the next releases.
Qt5 - ready steady?
There is also a Qt5 version, but it behaving strange in KDE5.
Bug report? It's a matter of time when you'll do it anyway in Qt5, right?
Yes, this should be a matter of time. For now it was important to get it running.
"Qt 4.8.7 Released - Marks The End Of Qt4" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=qt-4.8.7-qt4-update-r...
https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/2625806 New firewall-applet version using Qt
- Dropped shields up/down mechanism, was not optimal.
Please explain what was -not optimal-, related to "Shields" functionality.
Shields-up/-down was settings the default zone in firewalld. There is no runtime only setting for the default zone, therefore it was setting it for the whole system in a persistent way.
If there is a request, I will add it to the new applet.
This should be studied.
Here is the commit that adds this back: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/646d5ceeac51ccd3d473e6036ddf3f...
$ rpm -q firewall-applet firewall-applet-0.3.14.1-1.fc23.noarch
$ rpm -ql firewall-applet | grep man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz
$ man /usr/share/man/man1/firewall-applet.1.gz ... GSETTINGS firewall-applet has additional settings to adapt the look and feel. The used backend depends on the distribution and can be either dconf or GConf. The path to the settings is org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet. You can use dconf-editor or gconf-editor to see and modify them. The following settings are supported: ... show-inactive ... blink ... blink-count
Is this manual a bit outdated?
Oh yes, I forgot to adapt the man page. Thanks for finding this one.https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/5b47854 Dropped applet gschema remain: org.fedoraproject.FirewallApplet.gschema.xml
BTW dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/show-inactive true dconf write /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/blink true dconf dump /org/fedoraproject/FirewallApplet/ [/] show-inactive=true blink=true
What is equivalent to this, now in Qt4 form?
As far as I know there is no command line tool for this. You can create/change ~/.config/firewall-applet/firewalld.conf
The names here are bad, so I hanged them to ~/.config/firewall/applet.conf: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/f137568077af9a11823cdee816f80f...
$ cat ~/.config/firewall/applet.conf [General] notifications=false <-- works OK / also via the applet menu show-inactive=true <-- works -but- applet restart is needed to apply change - why? blink=true <-- broken - does not work at all blink-count=10 <-- brokne - see "blink"
Tested with: firewall-applet-0.3.14.2-1.fc22.noarch
Here is the fix for the not working settings: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/ca9597c69a6f8270fd7e3452ae93fe...
Please implement also a system-wide config, e.g. /etc/firewall/applet.conf [General] ...
Here are commits that adds global settings and settings reload on change: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/2a701feaaf229fec011549677b464c...
There are also other changes and fixes for firewall-applet in the master branch since 0.3.14.2:
Fix Ok button sensitivity in dialogs: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/7c03a3477ddfa6da85361a09f9aac5...
Reworked about dialog to have a more common look: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/1c697e0a59bcd8d6d370813631fbb1...
Man page adaption: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/e1fe9241b777c111a4bbac0eee2493...
Added defaults for shields-up/down, fixed blink default: https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/ff9e6705ddd010745bc2435a10ae00...
Regards, Thomas
You can see for yourself how "well" it works: http://goo.gl/Gm4ffO Screencast/eeny-meeny.webm
firewalld / Qt firewall-applet - git 67e40c0 Jun 29, 2015
Please have a look at https://github.com/t-woerner/firewalld/commit/90de0a4ec3e9866bf10f17d1632014...
This is fixing the file watch. QFileSystemWatcher is simply not working all the time. Now the settings are updated on changes in the global config file in /etc/firewall and in $HOME/.config/firewall. Also if the files are added or removed.
GTK+ firewall-applet is milk and honey compared to it.
Gtk.StatusIcon is deprecated and will be removed soon. Relying on it till it is removed is leading in not being able to use the applet suddenly. Also it is not possible to down-port the applet to Gtk2, because of conflicts with gobject-introspection. The only solution is to move away from Gtk.
I will have a look at the size issue with the Qt applet again. It really seems like this is Gtk theme dependent. I ran into those issues with Gtk several times before.
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